Alligator attacks toddler at lagoon at Disney hotel

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Weezer said:
First, my deepest condolences to the family. My heart aches for them. Death is always hard, but even more so when it involves a child.

Second, just a comment on society, it's strange to me how different this case is perceived from the case in Cincinnati with the gorilla. Tragedy strikes every day, and even the best parents can't predict everything their children will or will not do.
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I haven't really followed either case closely but I'm guessing you are talking about people blaming the parents from the zoo incident and people blaming Disney for the gator incident.

Difference is that the first child crossed a barrier to get to the gorilla and the second child was in an area where visitors are allowed to go it seems.

I don't blame the parents or the zoo or Disney for either of the events.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If it hadn't been for the gator, the child may have easily drowned if they can't even say how their child got in the water.



Do people not realize that gators live in Florida?
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Pretty much agree with you --- and a perfect example of people ignoring a sign, is the big red STOP sign - those get ignored almost every day by --- fill in a number ----
 
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508mikey said:
link wont show nothing - i dont get FB whats it say ?
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"PRAY, PRAY so hard for the family & for those who witnessed this tragic event. I took these pics at the exact spot this happened betw 8 & 830, the incident happened at 9. Helicopters flew overhead til 1 am and were back around dawn. I can't imagine anyone could sleep knowing that the helicopter was searching for a missing child taken by an alligator. I can't help but wonder if we played with him, did I talk to his Mom?? How does one go home without your baby in tow? 💔 I've already seen posts criticizing the parents. I can assure you alligators were not on my mind at all when Channing was in the water. It's a tiny beach, surrounded by pools, water slides, a restaurant and a fire pit. I can't conceive that an alligator would be in such a busy, small space. ‪#‎judgelesspraymore‬"
 
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vollygirl said:
"PRAY, PRAY so hard for the family & for those who witnessed this tragic event. I took these pics at the exact spot this happened betw 8 & 830, the incident happened at 9. Helicopters flew overhead til 1 am and were back around dawn. I can't imagine anyone could sleep knowing that the helicopter was searching for a missing child taken by an alligator. I can't help but wonder if we played with him, did I talk to his Mom?? How does one go home without your baby in tow? 💔 I've already seen posts criticizing the parents. I can assure you alligators were not on my mind at all when Channing was in the water. It's a tiny beach, surrounded by pools, water slides, a restaurant and a fire pit. I can't conceive that an alligator would be in such a busy, small space. ‪#‎judgelesspraymore‬"
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While I agree with this also - 6 inches of water isnt swimming and an alligator can swim up there fast no matter if the parents were watching the kid - the story about the 61 year old man - he should have known better if there were signs
 
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508mikey said:
While I agree with this also - 6 inches of water isnt swimming and an alligator can swim up there fast no matter if the parents were watching the kid - the story about the 61 year old man - he should have known better if there were signs
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I'm not familiar with the story of the 61 year old man.
 
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Weezer said:
First, my deepest condolences to the family. My heart aches for them. Death is always hard, but even more so when it involves a child.

Second, just a comment on society, it's strange to me how different this case is perceived from the case in Cincinnati with the gorilla. Tragedy strikes every day, and even the best parents can't predict everything their children will or will not do.
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Yep
 
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508mikey said:
Its in the article linked in the 1st post of this thread if you want to read about it
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Oh, gothca. Pretty different situations.

After hearing the news of another fatal alligator attack, Mary Mason shuddered thinking about her brother, who died while cave diving at Blue Spring State Park in Volusia County in October.

James Okkerse, 61, of DeBary, wasn't warned about the sighting of a 12-foot alligator, nicknamed "Big Blue," the night before he came for an early-morning swim, even though signs noted the perpetual threat.

Mason, who lives in Tennessee, said policies need to change to ensure the safety of visitors at Blue Spring, Disney or anywhere gators can strike.

"The signs are not making an impact," she said. "When people come to the parks, there needs to be something that's verbal ... They day my brother died, there was no communication from the park to patrons."
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BigZiti09 said:
I haven't really followed either case closely but I'm guessing you are talking about people blaming the parents from the zoo incident and people blaming Disney for the gator incident.

Difference is that the first child crossed a barrier to get to the gorilla and the second child was in an area where visitors are allowed to go it seems.

I don't blame the parents or the zoo or Disney for either of the events.
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So it's all just chance and happenstance I guess.

A child doesn't know any better. A parent does.
 
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Signs should make an impact. If you're too stupid to disregard them, then that's on you.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
So it's all just chance and happenstance I guess.

A child doesn't know any better. A parent does.
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Both were accidents and accidents happen. Do you have kids? I wouldn't let my son stand in that water at night but I know that he would run down to the shoreline in a split second which could have gotten him killed just as easily.

I also don't blame Disney in this like many are trying to do. I don't care if they had signs or not. It's a freshwater lake in Florida.

Why do we always have to have someone to blame/sue now? Why do we have to have a sign telling us what should be common sense?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Both were accidents and accidents happen. Do you have kids? I wouldn't let my son stand in that water at night but I know that he would run down to the shoreline in a split second which could have gotten him killed just as easily.

I also don't blame Disney in this like many are trying to do. I don't care if they had signs or not. It's a freshwater lake in Florida.

Why do we always have to have someone to blame/sue now? Why do we have to have a sign telling us what should be common sense?
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I don't blame them either. It is really an unfortunate situation rather than Disney being negligent, IMO. Unfortunately because they are Disney, the family will get money.
 
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joevol33 said:
A lot of people think those signs don't apply to them!
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We actually had photos of people ignoring signs and won a case when someone was injured when there was not a sign in the area stating danger. Or that was their claim that they were injured because there was not a sign.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If it hadn't been for the gator, the child may have easily drowned if they can't even say how their child got in the water.



Do people not realize that gators live in Florida?
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Oh for pets sake why don't people just stop? If I die doing something dangerous, it is my business and my fault. Nobody else's.
 
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