Anarchy In Portland

[LouderVol]

If you or I were living there, your opinion would probably be different

I dont remember wanting Trump to reach in and stop the riots here in Atlanta.

I do remember wishing both the Democratic mayor and Republican Governor would work together instead of taking every action by the other as hostile.

 

[evillawyer]

Have you got a statement from the killer or other ANTIFA individual at the scene girl?

We’ve got a pretty powerful statement from Pappas which you linked.

Another statement from Pappas:

 

[InVOLuntary]

I have a gun and three or four baseball bats in my car right now. So what?

Racist!!!!!

 

[LouderVol]

Very fine people, on both sides.

Bat and zip ties=terrorism. Good bye little league.

Nothing about the protestors armed with guns? Odd. I am sure they just forgot how the actual shooting happened.

 

[LouderVol]

Another statement from Pappas:

So the answer to his question is: no, you dont.

 

[Orangeburst]

I dont remember wanting Trump to reach in and stop the riots here in Atlanta.

I do remember wishing both the Democratic mayor and Republican Governor would work together instead of taking every action by the other as hostile.

That would be ideal for sure, but governance is broken down and submitted to the mob. Just saying not everybody in Portland is a liberal or Antifa and wants to see the city burn. I imagine these sane folk are pretty desperate for any kind of assistance.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Another statement from Pappas:

Wow a paintball gun. Good thing he didn’t unleash that death and destruction on the mostly peaceful ANTIFA members! Uou girls definately need to keep spreading this **** it’s really helping I promise.

 

[evillawyer]

Wouldn't it be great if Evil tried to analyze shootings like the self defense in Wisconsin and gave the benefit of every doubt to the kid like she does for the Antifa/BLM thugs?

I've already said I think Rittenhouse walks on the most serious charges of murder. He may get dinged on reckless endangerment and underage carrying.

 

[LouderVol]

That would be ideal for sure, but governance is broken down and submitted to the mob. Just saying not everybody in Portland is a liberal or Antifa and wants to see the city burn. I imagine these sane folk are pretty desperate for any kind of assistance.

1. Counter protest.
2. Leave.
3. Vote them out
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99. Get the federal government involved.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I dont remember wanting Trump to reach in and stop the riots here in Atlanta.

I do remember wishing both the Democratic mayor and Republican Governor would work together instead of taking every action by the other as hostile.

Good post by you. Not everything should be politically divisive. There is not enough collaborative effort right now to stop senseless acts of vandalism and violence.

 

[NorthDallas40]

1. Counter protest.
2. Leave.
3. Vote them out
.
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99. Get the federal government involved.

I’d put the Feds in a appendix.

If the Feds have to intervene then that is indicative of local and state government failure up to the governor. So if the Feds show up a recall should be the next step after that.

 

[evillawyer]

Evidently, Pappas was in violation of his probation by being in Portland. Also, there's audio of him saying he's personally ready "to start killing these mother effers" but the country isn't.

That's your party of "law and order" and "very fine people"?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Evidently, Pappas was in violation of his probation by being in Portland. Also, there's audio of him saying he's personally ready "to start killing these mother effers" but the country isn't.

That's your party of "law and order" and "very fine people"?

So ... again... he was asking for it? And I know you are desperately trying to not type “play stupid games win stupid prizes” or maybe that is what you’re trying to work up to typing huh girl?

So could we get a counter statement from any ANTIFA member whom was at the scene? No? They’re still all on the run and not cooperating?

Let’s go back to Kenosha where Rittenhouse immediately sought out police and approached them with his hands raised.

 

[Sandman 423]

Evidently, Pappas was in violation of his probation by being in Portland. Also, there's audio of him saying he's personally ready "to start killing these mother effers" but the country isn't.

That's your party of "law and order" and "very fine people"?

So, are your represented by every leftist protester? If not, why are you acting as though these morons represent the Republican party?

Hopefully you can find a meme so you can actually answer.

 

[evillawyer]

So, are your represented by every leftist protester? If not, why are you acting as though these morons represent the Republican party?

Hopefully you can find a meme so you can actually answer.

I think there's a LOT of evidence that Pappas and his buddy were tooling for a confrontation. I think the voice we hear on the audio saying "we got us a couple here" is clearly Pappas trying to coordinate with the victim a macing of the shooter. They were not "fine people." Based on what I've seen thus far I don't think the shooter wins on self-defense; however, that could change as facts are developed. I think this is fundamentally bad dudes meeting up with a bad dude and there being a bad consequence. Trump should not be celebrating these guys. No one should be celebrating these guys.

 

[LouderVol]

I’d put the Feds in a appendix.

If the Feds have to intervene then that is indicative of local and state government failure up to the governor. So if the Feds show up a recall should be the next step after that.

I am trying to think of the cases where the fed government has gotten involved in state issues and some of the consquences.

You had a bunch of "revolutions" early on. That lead to the federalizing of the military.

You had the civil war which exponentially grew the power of the president, while growing the fed in general, while abolishing states ability to stand on their own.

Integration in Bama in the 60s, governors cant ignore laws/rulings.

Not sure what precedence it would be setting to have fed troops try to regulate political protests. The Pinkerton's weren't real fed agents during the worker safety riots.

 

[Sandman 423]

I think there's a LOT of evidence that Pappas and his buddy were tooling for a confrontation. I think the voice we hear on the audio saying "we got us a couple here" is clearly Pappas trying to coordinate with the victim a macing of the shooter. They were not "fine people." Based on what I've seen thus far I don't think the shooter wins on self-defense; however, that could change as facts are developed. I think this is fundamentally bad dudes meeting up with a bad dude and there being a bad consequence. Trump should not be celebrating these guys. No one should be celebrating these guys.

Thanks for an actual answer. Why do you keep taking individual people and try to make them out as representatives of an entire party?

 

[evillawyer]

Thanks for an actual answer. Why do you keep taking individual people and try to make them out as representatives of an entire party?

Because the leader of the party celebrates them. That implies the endorsement of the party.

 

[37L1]

I am trying to think of the cases where the fed government has gotten involved in state issues and some of the consquences.

You had a bunch of "revolutions" early on. That lead to the federalizing of the military.

You had the civil war which exponentially grew the power of the president, while growing the fed in general, while abolishing states ability to stand on their own.

Integration in Bama in the 60s, governors cant ignore laws/rulings.

Not sure what precedence it would be setting to have fed troops try to regulate political protests. The Pinkerton's weren't real fed agents during the worker safety riots.

In 1919 Wilson used Federal troops to quell race riots in 20 cities, most notably Chicago.

In 1932 Hoover used Federal troops to disperse 20,000 WWI veterans at the Washington Mall.

In 1946 Truman used Federal troops against striking railroad workers.

In 1957 Eisenhower used Federal troops (Federalized the Arkansas National Guard and the 101st Airborne Division) in Arkansas.

George H. W. Bush used Federal troops in Watts in 1992.

George W. Bush placed Federal troops in airports after 9/11.

 

[Carl Pickens]

In case anyone is wondering, this is what a poon looks like:

 

[lawgator1]

Between this guy and the 17 year old in Wisconsin, the pattern of arming oneself (or caravaning with a bunch of fellow Trumpsters) for the VERY PURPOSE of antagonizing protestors and hoping for a confrontation is exactly what Trump wants. He promotes it. Disgusting.

 

[LouderVol]

In 1919 Wilson used Federal troops to quell race riots in 20 cities, most notably Chicago.

In 1932 Hoover used Federal troops to disperse 20,000 WWI veterans at the Washington Mall.

In 1946 Truman used Federal troops against striking railroad workers.

In 1957 Eisenhower used Federal troops (Federalized the Arkansas National Guard and the 101st Airborne Division) in Arkansas.

George H. W. Bush used Federal troops in Watts in 1992.

George W. Bush placed Federal troops in airports after 9/11.

I was thinking specifically of fed vs state. Not just fed vs anyone. How many of the riots did the locals call for fed support? That makes sense to me. But not the feds invading unwanted.

 

[37L1]

Between this guy and the 17 year old in Wisconsin, the pattern of arming oneself (or caravaning with a bunch of fellow Trumpsters) for the VERY PURPOSE of antagonizing protestors and hoping for a confrontation is exactly what Trump wants. He promotes it. Disgusting.

So who is promoting the antifa thugs that have held Portland hostage for over 3 months? Who is allowing it to happen night after night and then deflecting responsibility for his city and police department? WH--L-R.

LG wants to buy a vowel?

 

[utvolpj]

Between this guy and the 17 year old in Wisconsin, the pattern of arming oneself (or caravaning with a bunch of fellow Trumpsters) for the VERY PURPOSE of antagonizing protestors and hoping for a confrontation is exactly what Trump wants. He promotes it. Disgusting.

Are the riots, looting, destruction, etc not also for the VERY PURPOSE of antagonizing? They are being promoted by your left

 

[BowlBrother85]

Between this guy and the 17 year old in Wisconsin, the pattern of arming oneself (or caravaning with a bunch of fellow Trumpsters) for the VERY PURPOSE of antagonizing protestors and hoping for a confrontation is exactly what Trump wants. He promotes it. Disgusting.

It's not peace that Trump wants. He emphasizes the division and encourages conflict.