And so it begins...

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#102
Bumi said:
Pointless. These additions aren't for the sake of additions. They're business ventures. Adding FSU or Miami does little to nothing for the business aspect of expansion. The Florida market is already covered.
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Exactly. The only teams that make business sense in the east are Va Tech or UNC. We won't get UNC, and there are better choices out west than Va Tech. I think it's likely that Auburn or Arkansas will be playing in the East when expansion comes.
 
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bamawriter said:
Exactly. The only teams that make business sense in the east are Va Tech or UNC. We won't get UNC, and there are better choices out west than Va Tech. I think it's likely that Auburn or Arkansas will be playing in the East when expansion comes.
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Agree...I would say Arky ends up in the East...just because they're the newest of the SEC teams in the position to shift.

Someone earlier did post..."How about a North and South re-alignment?"
Here's what I think...
North - Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee, Arky, South Carloina, Auburn
South - Georgia, Bama, Florida, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
This would leave the door open to get TxAM and possibly a school more to the North, such as Va Tech...thoughts???
 
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bamawriter said:
Exactly. The only teams that make business sense in the east are Va Tech or UNC. We won't get UNC, and there are better choices out west than Va Tech. I think it's likely that Auburn or Arkansas will be playing in the East when expansion comes.
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Probably Arkansas. Not sure Bama would be happy about rarely playing one of their two biggest rivalries.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Agree...I would say Arky ends up in the East...just because they're the newest of the SEC teams in the position to shift.

Someone earlier did post..."How about a North and South re-alignment?"
Here's what I think...
North - Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee, Arky, South Carloina, Auburn
South - Georgia, Bama, Florida, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
This would leave the door open to get TxAM and possibly a school more to the North, such as Va Tech...thoughts???
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Geography isn't the biggest of issues, but it's an odd North-South alignment that puts AU north of Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and MSU. The only schools that Auburn is north of are LSU and Florida.

Plus, this alignment would make for horrific parity. It would be great for the Vols and Auburn but terrible for the conference as a whole.
 
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bamawriter said:
Geography isn't the biggest of issues, but it's an odd North-South alignment that puts AU north of Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and MSU. The only schools that Auburn is north of are LSU and Florida.

Plus, this alignment would make for horrific parity. It would be great for the Vols and Auburn but terrible for the conference as a whole.
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Yeah, taking a step back and looking at it...I was just bouncing around in my head...

Geographically...Arky to the East makes about as much sense...they are farthest west...

North could be KY, TN, Vandy, Arky, South Carolina, GA, then expand with VA Tech, UNC, or ???

South...Ole Miss, MS ST, BAMA, AUB, LSU, FLA, expand with TX AM, TX, or ???

This still is not real balanced as far as parity goes the way the conference is right now...unless we could get OKlahoma in the North along with TXAM...
 
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IndianaVol said:
Yeah, taking a step back and looking at it...I was just bouncing around in my head...

Geographically...Arky to the East makes about as much sense...they are farthest west...
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You're right about that. However, they are in a state by themselves, and they actually touch another East state, which is the reason they work better than LSU.
 
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bamawriter said:
You're right about that. However, they are in a state by themselves, and they actually touch another East state, which is the reason they work better than LSU.
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I still like North and South if we could get aTm and OK...

Besides we could always go retro and try to lure Sewanee back into the fold...
 
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IndianaVol said:
I still like North and South if we could get aTm and OK...

Besides we could always go retro and try to lure Sewanee back into the fold...
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only if we could place the University of the South in the Southeastern Conference Northern Division.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
Why do we have to add a team.
Add TAMU and boot Vandy out of the conference.
Problem fixed.
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The SEC is ALL about tradition...Vandy is one of the founding members...besides if they got the boot, somebody would have to be the bottom rung of the ladder...just don't want it to be us...:eek:hmy:
 
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#118
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BJSforVols said:
The thought is the revenue would increase due to getting a stake in the typical Big 12 tv market.
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The revenue to the networks might increase but will they share it?
The SEC signed a 15-year deal in 2008 that guarantees $17 million in TV revenue per school. Dodds noted the Big 12 will have a chance to create a huge windfall in 2016, when both the league's TV contracts are likely to be renewed. (There is wide speculation the Fox cable deal with the Big 12 will only a four-year deal so it synchs up with the ABC/ESPN contract that expires in 2016.)

Dodds also indicated if the SEC decides to add schools that ABC/ESPN, which has a $2.25 billion deal with the SEC that expires in 2022, would not redo that contract. CBS has an $800 million deal with the SEC over that same 15-year stretch as well.

"If you dissect the SEC TV package with CBS and ESPN, you add schools to that deal, ABC/ESPN is going to say, 'Way to go. You got an extra school. You got two extra schools,'" Dodds said. "They are not going to come in and just throw money at it. So if someone comes into the SEC, they are going to divide it 13 or 14 ways instead of 12. So are they going to vote to do that? I don't' think so."
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Orangebloods.com - One-on-one with DeLoss Dodds: ND, realignment and more
 
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vols-1 said:
"We've got a standing invitation from them(sec) and we're getting outa here."

A&M has been saying this for six months. How much of market is the SEC going to get with the 3rd or 4th best team in TX? The SEC only toyed with A&M one time to try to get Texas.

Texas nearly joined SEC during last round of expansion. Could it happen now? – College Gridiron 365 Blog – Orlando Sentinel
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ESPN just gave Texas $300 million reasons not to break up the Big XII...if A&M goes then BYU will most likely slide in to replace the Ags (BYU recently cut a big money deal with ESPN also). The folks up in Bristol have a ton of money riding on the status quo of college football.
"There may be a new world out there, but it's not in my lifetime," Dodds said when asked if Texas, Notre Dame and BYU might be angling toward their own conference at some point in the next decade.
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The Horns are getting cozy with BYU for a reason and it isn't to break up the Big XII.
 
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IndianaVol said:
The SEC is ALL about tradition...Vandy is one of the founding members...besides if they got the boot, somebody would have to be the bottom rung of the ladder...just don't want it to be us...:eek:hmy:
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Absolutely! Part of what makes the SEC so great are the close rivalries... before the addition of ARK, you could drive almost everywhere and tailgate, which lead to good opposing crowds. I don't think that you see very many Oregon fans at the Oregon/Arizona game when it is in AZ... Personally, I like A&M, but I don't want the conference spread out like that.. JMHO
 
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#123
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#124
If you were to add another school to the east it would either be Clemson or Ga Tech. Florida would over rule allowing a school like Miami or Florida St in the SEC. That was the big kicker when the first talks happened last year.
 
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Mr. U said:
If you were to add another school to the east it would either be Clemson or Ga Tech. Florida would over rule allowing a school like Miami or Florida St in the SEC. That was the big kicker when the first talks happened last year.
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Florida doesn't have that kind of juice.

I'd welcome FSU into the East in a heartbeat.

Miami needs the SEC more than the SEC needs Miami.
 
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