Andrew Gribble reporting Pearl committed violations in Sept and March

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zjcvols said:
So, since September 10th, he has done...

1) Commit the bump violation, which is easy to remember (confirmed by everyone).

2) Gave a player(s) extra tickets for a game (Hubbs reporting).

3) Lied to the media (and maybe his bosses) about a player who failed a drug test and said he had a bad back (Katz).

4) Violated his off campus recruiting violations which he agreed to (unconfirmed, but Zas is as reliable as they come on the board).

Incredible.
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I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, but yes to the rest. However, I find it hard to believe that the Athletic Dept. doesn't know about the drug results and only the coach does. Who cares if he lied to the media, but it will be interesting to know if he lied to his bosses because I can't see a way in which he did.
 
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zjcvols said:
Yes, but he lied to the media about it. That might be what Katz is saying.
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I don't think that was the non-NCAA issue unless he somehow hid it from the AD. I think it was more along the lines of that Kentucky altercation.
 
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tvols75 said:
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, but yes to the rest. However, I find it hard to believe that the Athletic Dept. doesn't know about the drug results and only the coach does. Who cares if he lied to the media, but it will be interesting to know if he lied to his bosses because I can't see a way in which he did.
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Like I said before, Zas is about as solid as they come with info. I messaged him to ask about that. We'll see if he responds.
 
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tvols75 said:
I don't think that was the non-NCAA issue unless he somehow hid it from the AD. I think it was more along the lines of that Kentucky altercation.
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If he hid it from the NCAA...and I was Hamilton and Cheek...I'd make sure he never, ever got another job again.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
I found someone that has surpassed Rucker today.... Clay travis has claimed the title in a land slide.

In addition to twitter.... dude went on Memphis radio...claimed the be the foremost "reporter" or "journalist" that covers the Vols....calles himself the "Pulse" of UT Athletics...blah blah bah... went on to say this is the most unpopular firing in modern day Athletics and that Tennessee's basketball program was finished....

Remembered your post from earlier and thought I would share :)
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Only Clay Travis would call himself the Pulse Of UT Athletics. Guy is a self-aggrandizing tool.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Sometimes less is more. If we would've issued a simple statement from the start, the categorical "This is what we're doing with Pearl now...and we will evaluate our options at the end of the season," then there would've been no need for this constant justification.

I don't blame the fans. For months, they received a message from UTAD and Cheek. If you've been a big fan of Bruce Pearl, then it is going to be difficult to understand a poorly-timed and handled about-face and then firing of the coach.

A non-committal front should have been put up in the first place. It wasn't. And UTAD now reaps the backlash for the inability to communicate with its fanbase.
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Well, in truth UT did put a non-committal front in the first place, in the most meaningful way possible: they voided Pearl's contract and wouldn't sign a new one. Hamilton can stand up there all day and say that Pearl was going to be our coach, but as long as that contract issue was hanging out there, it was clear that UT was really keeping their options open.

But imagine what the season would have been like if Hamilton had done what you suggest, and said all along that we'd evaluate Pearl at the end of the year. It would have dogged the players and coaches far worse than it actually did. Every game would have had this breathless "Pearl is coaching for his job!" vibe. There would have been SAVE BRUCE rallies at every home game. Heck, Pearl himself might have campaigned publicly to save his job. The season would have been a farce.

I don't think they handled it great, but I don't think there was really any way they could have handled it that much better. It was just one of those shiat-sandwich situations where you're screwed no matter what you do.
 
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the whole issue is dont lie to ncaa investigators when caught red handed with secondary violation...take your meds and move on....just as u.t. is doing now
 
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so the March violations were extra tickets to a current player and sitting a player for a failed drug test but calling it a bad back?

much ado about nothing.

I guess they have their reasons for including that stuff in the press release but these are petty, everyday offenses.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
so the March violations were extra tickets to a current player and sitting a player for a failed drug test but calling it a bad back?

much ado about nothing.

I guess they have their reasons for including that stuff in the press release but these are petty, everyday offenses.
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The tickets aren't a petty everyday offense, especially when you're in the crosshairs.
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Vercingetorix said:
I just can't bring myself to worry a shred about Bruce Pearl's dignity. He already took it away himself. The man burned down the basketball program; he may have ended Mike Hamilton's time at Tennessee. I wouldn't blame Hamilton if he'd held a press conference today and stood up and called Pearl an selfish a-hole who ruined his job.



The only one who ruined Mike Hamilton's job....was Mike Hamilton.
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LawVol13 said:
It just said he committed a violation, which was true. It's another sign that he just simply can't follow the rules. I don't feel too sorry for him considering he's going to receive his salary till the end of June and then $50k per month for a year following.
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Explain something to me here. Wasn't he violating the terms of his contract? Did he not even have a contract in place due to the NCAA violations? He was working without a contract, right? Why are we in a buyout situation?

It seems to me that we shouldn't owe him anything other than what he was working for after the NCAA violations. Where does all this buyout stuff come into play going by what's happened? I don't get it! It seems every single coach that comes through UT is always on a "buyout" situation when leaving.

I can understand the past coaches but why Pearl with how things came about? Why is he still getting paid by UT when he basically had an invalid contract due to NCAA violations and working without a contract. I'm confused. Please explain this to me! Thanks! :confused:
 
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tonybologna said:
Explain something to me here. Wasn't he violating the terms of his contract? Did he not even have a contract in place due to the NCAA violations? He was working without a contract, right? Why are we in a buyout situation?

It seems to me that we shouldn't owe him anything other than what he was working for after the NCAA violations. Where does all this buyout stuff come into play going by what's happened? I don't get it! It seems every single coach that comes through UT is always on a "buyout" situation when leaving.

I can understand the past coaches but why Pearl with how things came about? Why is he still getting paid by UT when he basically had an invalid contract due to NCAA violations and working without a contract. I'm confused. Please explain this to me! Thanks! :confused:
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UT is not required to pay this to him because his contract has been terminated. It is simply a way to try to get this over with as smoothly as possible. I don't like it, but I understand the reason they're doing it.
 
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LawVol13 said:
UT is not required to pay this to him because his contract has been terminated. It is simply a way to try to get this over with as smoothly as possible. I don't like it, but I understand the reason they're doing it.
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Oh! I see but why pay him for what he's done to the program? What's the fallout by us not paying him? I see you say a smooth transition but Pearl has done some pretty bad things to this program.

I feel what money he's gotten should be sufficient considering the mess we're in for basketball now. UT is giving him too much but I guess Pearl did turn the basketball program around. However, we paid him for that already. We don't owe him anything in my opinion. :rolleyes:
 
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During Hamilton's comments, he said violations that occurred on September 14 and in March 2011. We know the bump in Sept but what the heck did we just do? (sorry if this is already posted somewhere else)
 
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