Another bad apple (George Floyd case)

[Rickyvol77]

Wow man you are really trying to push that old racist joke.

The people I see with crappy cars on rims are always scrawny little white guys or white women that work at fast food restaurants and places like Wal Mart.

But go off though.

LMAO

"it's so racist to suggest that rims are used by a particular race, hell i only see them being used by white people"

 

[KB5252]

Kaepernick on Minneapolis Riots: ‘Revolting Is the Only Logical Reaction…We Have the Right to Fight Back!’

Former NFL quarterback and original anthem protester Colin Kaepernick, says that the civil unrest in Minneapolis in response to the death of George Floyd is a “logical reaction.”

Kaepernick on Minneapolis Riots: 'Revolting Is the Only Logical Reaction...We Have the Right to Fight Back!'

So would he agree that the people he has enriched himself off of, the same people he claims to advocate for by the way, have a right to his wealth? Should they fight him for it?

The clown has zero credibility on the issue, even if inciting violence was the right thing to do.

 

[Septic]

How is that a strawman?

You were asked how you would feel if it were your business, and you implied your stuff isn't worth someone else's life. Is that true or false?

Just to spell it out... I'm implying you are a liar if you say it is true.

bruh. An unoccupied business being looted is not the same thing as an armed robbery at your home where your life is in danger.

If you really need me to follow our strawman down the rabbit hole, your belongings aren't worth risking your life over either. It's not a dick measuring contest, you're not impressing anyone by trying to save your prized NASCAR collectors edition Hotwheels set, 50 inch Sylvania TV and Elvis painting - if you have the chance to avoid armed confrontation - you should, to do anything to the contrary is simply stupid. If it makes you feel tough telling everyone on an anonymous website how you'd go Doc Holiday in the OK Corral in your living room over what I assume is insured 'crap', then you do you.

It was a strawman, and still is.

 

[KB5252]

Kaepernick on Minneapolis Riots: ‘Revolting Is the Only Logical Reaction…We Have the Right to Fight Back!’

Former NFL quarterback and original anthem protester Colin Kaepernick, says that the civil unrest in Minneapolis in response to the death of George Floyd is a “logical reaction.”

Kaepernick on Minneapolis Riots: 'Revolting Is the Only Logical Reaction...We Have the Right to Fight Back!'

Why in this case, especially when justice appears to be acting swiftly?

 

[Rickyvol77]

bruh. An unoccupied business being looted is not the same thing as an armed robbery at your home where your life is in danger.

If you really need me to follow our strawman down the rabbit hole, your belongings aren't worth risking your life over either. It's not a dick measuring contest, you're not impressing anyone by trying to save your prized NASCAR collectors edition Hotwheels set, 50 inch Sylvania TV and Elvis painting - if you have the chance to avoid armed confrontation - you should, to do anything to the contrary is simply stupid. If it makes you feel tough telling everyone on an anonymous website how you'd go Doc Holiday in the OK Corral in your living room over what I assume is insured 'crap', then you do you.

It was a strawman, and still is.

These businesses were not "unoccupied", how do you think a couple of those looters took bullets?

If i wake up at home or just come home and someone is in my house, the assumption is that they are there to do me harm. Only tactically-naive idiots would assume otherwise

 

[Septic]

he knows the answer, thus doesnt want to answer

"thus"

heh

 

[Septic]

These businesses were not "unoccupied", how do you think a couple of those looters took bullets?

If i wake up at home or just come home and someone is in my house, the assumption is that they are there to do me harm. Only tactically-naive idiots would assume otherwise

I have seen where a person was shot, but nothing indicating it was by a store owner. Though it was a pawn shop, and those guys are generally armed and low rent - so who knows. Also, your home and a store are not the same, if you are "waking up" in your store, then you need a new job. Does MN have a stand your ground law?

Again, you should not conflate that I believe the property owners shouldn't protect his or her property - just not to the extent to where he or she puts his life or anyone elses in peril over 'stuff'.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I have seen where a person was shot, but nothing indicating it was by a store owner. Though it was a pawn shop, and those guys are generally armed and low rent - so who knows. Also, your home and a store are not the same, if you are "waking up" in your store, then you need a new job. Does MN have a stand your ground law?

Again, you should not conflate that I believe the property owners shouldn't protect his or her property - just not to the extent to where he or she puts his life or anyone elses in peril over 'stuff'.

Property is property, this "well your rights don't really matter and shouldnt be protected from crime because of..." is dumb.

Am i advocating shooting someone in the back 12 times for stealing from my mailbox? of course not.

But if someone is IN YOUR HOUSE or PROPERTY (Even work property) and trying to smash windows, loot items, set it on fire or assault you, then yea they pretty much get what's coming to them

 

[KB5252]

I have seen where a person was shot, but nothing indicating it was by a store owner. Though it was a pawn shop, and those guys are generally armed and low rent - so who knows. Also, your home and a store are not the same, if you are "waking up" in your store, then you need a new job. Does MN have a stand your ground law?

Again, you should not conflate that I believe the property owners shouldn't protect his or her property - just not to the extent to where he or she puts his life or anyone elses in peril over 'stuff'.

There are people that live in areas adjacent to their shops. I wonder if that was the case here.

 

[KB5252]

I have seen where a person was shot, but nothing indicating it was by a store owner. Though it was a pawn shop, and those guys are generally armed and low rent - so who knows. Also, your home and a store are not the same, if you are "waking up" in your store, then you need a new job. Does MN have a stand your ground law?

Again, you should not conflate that I believe the property owners shouldn't protect his or her property - just not to the extent to where he or she puts his life or anyone elses in peril over 'stuff'.

I would argue they are putting your life in danger over stuff... In that situation I believe you should have the right to defend both.

 

[Septic]

Property is property, this "well your rights don't really matter and shouldnt be protected from crime because of..." is dumb.

Am i advocating shooting someone in the back 12 times for stealing from my mailbox? of course not.

But if someone is IN YOUR HOUSE or PROPERTY (Even work property) and trying to smash windows, loot items, set it on fire or assault you, then yea they pretty much get what's coming to them

Who said that? It's reasonable and rational to want to and actively protect your property up until the point until it becomes unreasonable and irrational.

I'm simply stating that knowingly putting your or anyone elses life in danger over "stuff" is stupid. You aren't backed into a corner at 9pm at night at a pawnshop, where given the civil unrest - you are knowingly putting yourself into that position. As opposed to the straw man of suddenly being woken up at home and backed into a corner where the only option may be to fight.

 

[NEO]

I have seen where a person was shot, but nothing indicating it was by a store owner. Though it was a pawn shop, and those guys are generally armed and low rent - so who knows. Also, your home and a store are not the same, if you are "waking up" in your store, then you need a new job. Does MN have a stand your ground law?

Again, you should not conflate that I believe the property owners shouldn't protect his or her property - just not to the extent to where he or she puts his life or anyone elses in peril over 'stuff'.

Septic, I deal with businesses for a living. In fact, I only deal with businesses.

I can name multiple businesses right now where the owner has a cot in the backroom and will sleep there sometimes instead of going home.

Almost all new businesses owned by people from India are run this way.

I have seen an actual king size bed in a store room.

It would take one errant rock thrown through a window that knocks out the owner and the next thing you know he is burned alive.

Burning a building down is always dangerous.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[VolStrom]

Property is property, this "well your rights don't really matter and shouldnt be protected from crime because of..." is dumb.

Am i advocating shooting someone in the back 12 times for stealing from my mailbox? of course not.

But if someone is IN YOUR HOUSE or PROPERTY (Even work property) and trying to smash windows, loot items, set it on fire or assault you, then yea they pretty much get what's coming to them

I was watching the news today and the "citizens" of Minneapolis were still busy "shopping" in looted buildings and the police were nowhere to be found. Care to explain why they don't do their job?

 

[golfballs]

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[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[Rickyvol77]

I was watching the news today and the "citizens" of Minneapolis were still busy "shopping" in looted buildings and the police were nowhere to be found. Care to explain why they don't do their job?

Their liberal mayor has likely told them to stand down

 

[ETV]

bruh. An unoccupied business being looted is not the same thing as an armed robbery at your home where your life is in danger.

If you really need me to follow our strawman down the rabbit hole, your belongings aren't worth risking your life over either. It's not a dick measuring contest, you're not impressing anyone by trying to save your prized NASCAR collectors edition Hotwheels set, 50 inch Sylvania TV and Elvis painting - if you have the chance to avoid armed confrontation - you should, to do anything to the contrary is simply stupid. If it makes you feel tough telling everyone on an anonymous website how you'd go Doc Holiday in the OK Corral in your living room over what I assume is insured 'crap', then you do you.

It was a strawman, and still is.

What makes you believe that once an invidudual with those intentions will suddenly stop after they've taken your belongings? Being passive to avoid armed conflict is one thing. Showing weakness to a criminal who's just realized you offered no resistance as they took your stuff only enforces the idea that everything is fair game to them unless met with resistance.

Guarantee most of those involved in the rioting and looting will not listen to voices of reason. However, most will understand and comply when on the business end of your own PDW.

Just my .02.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I agree with what Kaepernik said but the problem I have is that the people falling victim to these incidents of excessive force are generally not law abiding innocent people. However we got to this point, the crooks know that they have a reasonable chance to get away if they try to flee because of the restraints that have been placed on police pursuit and if they do get recaptured the punishment is unlikely to be any worse than it would have been had they just submitted to arrest. They all try to run. Watch Live PD some time.

We need to go back to the days where if you try to run from the cops you take a bullet in the back. Everyone will know the rule and it will be applied uniformly.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

I was watching the news today and the "citizens" of Minneapolis were still busy "shopping" in looted buildings and the police were nowhere to be found. Care to explain why they don't do their job?

This is called NO TOUCH policing.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

What makes you believe that once an invidudual with those intentions will suddenly stop after they've taken your belongings? Being passive to avoid armed conflict is one thing. Showing weakness to a criminal who's just realized you offered no resistance as they took your stuff only enforces the idea that everything is fair game to them unless met with resistance.

Guarantee most of those involved in the rioting and looting will not listen to voices of reason. However, most will understand and comply when on the business end of your own PDW.

Just my .02.

They all sure got the hell out of the way when the cop told them there was someone in the pawnshop with a rifle.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

MSNBC’s Glaude: ‘We Have to Understand How Profoundly Racist Our Country Is’

Princeton University professor and MSNBC contributor Eddie Glaude, Jr. said Wednesday on his network that Americans need to understand “profoundly racist our country is.”

MSNBC's Glaude: 'We Have to Understand How Profoundly Racist Our Country Is'

 

[Franklin Pierce]

 

[Franklin Pierce]

AOC Suggests Trump Adviser’s Use of ‘Human Capital’ Term Is Pro-Slavery After Saying It Herself

Kevin Hassett, one of President Donald Trump’s economic advisers, said last weekend that Americans are ready to get back to work, but his reference to “human capital stock” led Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to call the term “ugly” and to suggest that it is pro-slavery — although she has used the expression herself.

AOC Suggests Trump Adviser's Use of 'Human Capital' Term Is Pro-Slavery After Saying It Herself