Another set of transfers

[Smallvol#1]

I would tell my child to determine what her goals were, what would make her happy, and what word she had given to a coach or program. Go from there!

 

[Martic]

More like Wilson being in foul trouble and only playing 22 minutes and getting an extremely lucky foul call to end the game and give us the win.

If you're talking about "luck", I believe the SC win would fall into that category more than anything in this conversation, so it's ironic that you're the one to bring this up. Besides that, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

what about the first SC Miss St. game any luck there? Any bad calls? Don't get me wrong I'm a DS fan just want to point out luck works both ways.

 

[Rickster]

I would tell my child to determine what her goals were, what would make her happy, and what word she had given to a coach or program. Go from there!

I'm glad you mentioned the word (commitment) given to the coach/program. It seems in today's world that commitments are optional in some cases. Maybe it is a generational thing? Careful analysis should be done to determine fit before making the commitment.

 

[Smallvol#1]

I'm glad you mentioned the word (commitment) given to the coach/program. It seems in today's world that commitments are optional in some cases. Maybe it is a generational thing? Careful analysis should be done to determine fit before making the commitment.

You mean like when someone "commits" to a program and then says they are still open to recruiting?🙄 Need a dictionary imo. And, yes, you need to honor your word...Of course that goes for the school too!!! If word broken or maybe situation changes (I would probably include losing coach) then reevaluate. Ex. Kid from Kansas State, Leti Romero?, had every right to transfer. Jmo. Brought up to keep my word. Lost value for many...And not just generational.

 

[Amb3096]

I'm glad you mentioned the word (commitment) given to the coach/program. It seems in today's world that commitments are optional in some cases. Maybe it is a generational thing? Careful analysis should be done to determine fit before making the commitment.

It's no different from taking a job and then deciding it's not the right fit for you. This isn't a marriage, especially when there's a lot at stake for players that want to go pro that could be completely undermined by playing for the wrong coach.

 

[Amb3096]

what about the first SC Miss St. game any luck there? Any bad calls? Don't get me wrong I'm a DS fan just want to point out luck works both ways.

While that's true, it's a bit of a stretch to say that Dawn was lucky 30+ times this year while Holly was unlucky 26 times over the past two seasons playing with an overall more talented roster.

 

[Amb3096]

If you were a parent of an athlete that is a marginal division one player at best, you would advise your child to switches Universities and hope for what...free education some where else? You are a knuckle head at best!

Marginal division one player, huh?

Nia had offers from Illinois, ND and Auburn

Kortney had offers from Baylor, Louisville and Oklahoma State

MeMe had offers from just about the whole SEC

Kamera had an offer from Oregon State

If anything, they were knuckle heads for coming to Tennessee in the first place if they expected to get better under Holly's guidance. The only reason she kept her losses to 12 to 14 these past two seasons is because she had so many HS AAs and top 20 players on her team. If she had Miss State's roster, they wouldn't have even made the NIT.

 

[Hoya Saxa]

It's no different from taking a job and then deciding it's not the right fit for you. This isn't a marriage, especially when there's a lot at stake for players that want to go pro that could be completely undermined by playing for the wrong coach.

I agree with you. Sixteen and seventeen year old kids often have no idea what they want and are easily swayed by fast-talking recruiters. Often the reality of a situation is vastly different from what was promised. It would be interesting to compare the transfer rates of WCBB players with the those of the general student population of each school. Non-athletes transfer schools a lot these days for one hundred and one different reasons. There is a reason why minors are not allowed to sign legally-binding contracts. Their brains are not yet fully developed.

 

[gule]

I must still be a minor.

 

[Amb3096]

I agree with you. Sixteen and seventeen year old kids often have no idea what they want and are easily swayed by fast-talking recruiters. Often the reality of a situation is vastly different from what was promised. It would be interesting to compare the transfer rates of WCBB players with the those of the general student population of each school. Non-athletes transfer schools a lot these days for one hundred and one different reasons. There is a reason why minors are not allowed to sign legally-binding contracts. Their brains are not yet fully developed.

Transfers happen all the time, and my guess is that it's higher for the general student population than the athletes (barring those that leave to turn pro).

I transferred after my freshman year of college because I realized I made the wrong choice. Had a lot of friends who did the same, some failed out, some dropped out of school altogether, and some went on to graduate in four years.

 

[mtsuraider06]

McCoy isn't going to USC.
Per her Dad, she is going somewhere that will take both her and her sister, just like OSU.
Baylor, Maryland, Marquette, Louisville and Kansas State have made contact.
Tennessee hasn't.

 

[PRG]

McCoy isn't going to USC.
Per her Dad, she is going somewhere that will take both her and her sister, just like OSU.
Baylor, Maryland, Marquette, Louisville and Kansas State have made contact.
Tennessee hasn't.

It is one thing to take the Hayes family of four girls that are obviously athletic kids with potential! Which was Holly's decision along with other SEC schools (KY, TA&M, etc.) opinions. But to be held hostages by a parent that it has to be a package deal is not acceptable in my opinion! I hope UT stays out of the hunt for these kids! Was this not one of the reasons they (parent and kids) chose Ohio in the first place ?

 

[Cb153181]

McCoy isn't going to USC.
Per her Dad, she is going somewhere that will take both her and her sister, just like OSU.
Baylor, Maryland, Marquette, Louisville and Kansas State have made contact.
Tennessee hasn't.

Why would Baylor be interested don't they have a enough players at that position, does that mean a transfer for Baylor is about to happen?

 

[volfanIND]

McCoy isn't going to USC.
Per her Dad, she is going somewhere that will take both her and her sister, just like OSU.
Baylor, Maryland, Marquette, Louisville and Kansas State have made contact.
Tennessee hasn't.

I do believe you have an ear in conversations that 99% of us don't have. With that being said, why did she have out like it was down to USC and OSU with the hat thing?

 

[Ladyvol777]

McCoy isn't going to USC.
Per her Dad, she is going somewhere that will take both her and her sister, just like OSU.
Baylor, Maryland, Marquette, Louisville and Kansas State have made contact.
Tennessee hasn't.

Is she worth 2 scholarship? If we get Olivia Nelson-Ododa Tennessee would not need her.

 

[mtsuraider06]

I do believe you have an ear in conversations that 99% of us don't have. With that being said, why did she have out like it was down to USC and OSU with the hat thing?

She wasn't down to USC and OSU, no matter what hats were on the table. She wanted to come to Tennessee, but Holly wouldn't offer her sister because she wasn't good enough. USC wouldn't either.

OSU is the only one that would, and they did the same thing with Mitchell, along with offering her Dad a coaching position.

Marquette is the best offer that her sister had, and it's pretty obvious why they are still talking to them.

I don't understand Baylor either. Lousiville is a whole other situation. Walz gives out more offers than Groupon.

 

[Volfan2012]

We don't need McCoy if we have to take her sister we haven't done those deals in the past and don't expect we'll start now. I remember that was the huge reason we didn't take Kaela Davis and is the reason she did not come as she wanted us to take another player as well and we refused.

 

[Amb3096]

Why would Baylor be interested don't they have a enough players at that position, does that mean a transfer for Baylor is about to happen?

Mompremier and Brown will be seniors by the time McCoy is ready to play. Barring any other 5-star posts, that will give them a post rotation of 4. They may even look to run a huge lineup with Cox playing the 3 (they did that during the tournament in the early rounds).

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...5/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html

Looks like offering her sister is a huge part of getting her to go to your school along with letting her play along the perimeter...
🤔🤔🤔. Her parents are running her recruiting sooooo yea no bossy parents please! Watching her in the past she could get out in the lanes but didn't show me the handles or shooting touch to play consistently on the perimeter... maybe a high low post game? But perimeter play I dunno. Interesting read for sure. intersting to see which school will give in to these demands I really hope it isn't us!

 

[bobkitten]

No coach should be willing to give up her coaching prerogatives just to humor a parent. When you do that, you are no longer the coach, and you have sold out the rest of your team. JMHO.

 

[Amb3096]

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...5/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html

Looks like offering her sister is a huge part of getting her to go to your school along with letting her play along the perimeter...
🤔🤔🤔. Her parents are running her recruiting sooooo yea no bossy parents please! Watching her in the past she could get out in the lanes but didn't show me the handles or shooting touch to play consistently on the perimeter... maybe a high low post game? But perimeter play I dunno. Interesting read for sure. intersting to see which school will give in to these demands I really hope it isn't us!

A'ja played that "I'm a guard!" routine her freshman year, and Dawn was like, "No, you're not. Get on the block.". I don't think A'ja still carries that "guard" torch.

McCoy is delusional for several reasons. I don't expect to see her playing for a contender unless she becomes more realistic.

 

[PRG]

She wasn't down to USC and OSU, no matter what hats were on the table. She wanted to come to Tennessee, but Holly wouldn't offer her sister because she wasn't good enough. USC wouldn't either.

OSU is the only one that would, and they did the same thing with Mitchell, along with offering her Dad a coaching position.

Marquette is the best offer that her sister had, and it's pretty obvious why they are still talking to them.

I don't understand Baylor either. Lousiville is a whole other situation. Walz gives out more offers than Groupon.

Sounds like dad wants to coach the sisters as a packaged deal! And since Mitchell is coach the sisters at OSU.... even though little sis will never play . He is pulling Tori and with her having to sit another year... they should have three years together? I don't see a major program submitting to the ultimatum but you never know? Why does dad think she is an outside player when her height is her major asset??!

 

[Chitownvol1129]

It's no different from taking a job and then deciding it's not the right fit for you. This isn't a marriage, especially when there's a lot at stake for players that want to go pro that could be completely undermined by playing for the wrong coach.

Pro doesnt really have the same meaning in womens basketball. Unless you want to play overseas. There are much better jobs with a good education than a jump shot. Transfers graduate at a much lower level than students who stay at the same school for college. 3 yrs or 4 of "pro" ball is hardly going to set up a young lady for life.

 

[Amb3096]

Pro doesnt really have the same meaning in womens basketball. Unless you want to play overseas. There are much better jobs with a good education that a jump shot. Transfers graduate at a much lower level than students who stay at the same school for college. 3 yrs or 4 of "pro" ball us hardly going to set up a young lady for life.

Of course it's to play overseas. That's where the money is. Even Nia Moore got an overseas contract. She's not going to be set for life playing for 4-5 years, but she'll make a lot more money than the typical job coming out of college, and have an amazing life experience while doing so.

And I wouldn't count on a better job for a lot of these players majoring in communications and criminal justice. If you're not good enough to turn pro, you're better off getting a real degree.

 

[Chitownvol1129]

Of course it's to play overseas. That's where the money is. Even Nia Moore got an overseas contract. She's not going to be set for life playing for 4-5 years, but she'll make a lot more money than the typical job coming out of college, and have an amazing life experience while doing so.

And I wouldn't count on a better job for a lot of these players majoring in communications and criminal justice. If you're not good enough to turn pro, you're better off getting a real degree.

Even the ones who play overseas don't all make great pay. They pay for travel and living abroad isn't cheap always. Lol communications and criminal justice aren't real degrees? Whoa