Any chance Tayven Jackson beats out Milton next spring?

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I think if they could implement more of Milton with a bit of Tebow run game option would be interesting to see. Don’t know if that “scheme” is part of Golesh’s repertoire but Milton has the size and speed to truck people.
 
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The only way this team wins 10 games with Milton as the starter next year, is if Cutcliffe decides to suddenly move to Knoxville and stay from April to November.
 
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I think it is important to note that he had a very good first half at 9-16 for 133 yards. He had one bad miss to Squirrel in the end zone, but was solid outside of that. In the second half, it was almost all deep shots for some reason, but we also only threw the ball 5 times. It's not like we had to sustain drives at all either. A very tough day to also do much at QB with the rain, cold, and the wind started really kicking up by the end of the game.

Let's certainly give him more than one game in awful weather before we decide anything. If he comes out and plays terribly in the bowl game, then sure there's at least some cause for concern. We're talking about a QB that just led his team to a 56-0 victory, and also a QB that wasn't allowed to use his legs all game due to other injuries at QB.
 
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illumiVOLi said:
I think if they could implement more of Milton with a bit of Tebow run game option would be interesting to see. Don’t know if that “scheme” is part of Golesh’s repertoire but Milton has the size and speed to truck people.
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Yes but he doesn’t have the desire or the disposition. And once there’s tape that shows he’s a less willing runner than HH, it will affect the running backs.
 
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ZZ13 said:
It’s not like he’s a raw freshman that needs to get coached up. He’s an old college student that’s been coached up by quality coaches for four years. Nothing has changed with the performances. At some point it’s just validating the definition of insanity. If he didn’t have a cannon attached to his right shoulder he’d probably be out of football.
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I don’t think he has it upstairs. He was staring down receivers and holding the ball way to long last night. He also should have kept the ball on a couple of zone reads. He could have run for ever . I like the kid and I am cheering for him . I am just not sure he has the instincts to be a great quarterback at this level.
 
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keenobserver said:
Without Hooker, we're 7-5 this season. The specifics have been discussed, but Milton just doesn't have "it".
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I think it should be an equal 3 player battle between JM, TJ, and Nico and let it continue for the first few games. I'm sure JM will appear to have a better command of the offense in practice, but I believe one of the other two are probably better when the lights come on and the pads start poppin.
 
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Let’s see what happens. We’ve got 9 months to the first game. And there’s a 5 star guy coming in who is going to make waves.
 
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The look on Heupel's face last night made me think he was already thinking portal. He has to get a QB to run the show so we can score. Were not going to run on teams like we did Vandy last night. I think a QB and some defensive guys would be where you would be concentrating next season. Especially linebacker where were going to need a lot of help above what we got coming back.
 
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illumiVOLi said:
I think if they could implement more of Milton with a bit of Tebow run game option would be interesting to see. Don’t know if that “scheme” is part of Golesh’s repertoire but Milton has the size and speed to truck people.
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I can understand Milton not running last night but next year he is going to have to be willing and able to run some for him to have success. If teams don’t have to respect his ability to run things will get tough on him. But I think Milton will be improved, but I do expect Nico and Jackson to continue to push which is a good thing for everybody. Our quarterbacks are in good hands with this staff. GBO!
 
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you guys really need to stop wanting Joe Milton III to fail. we need to give him 3-4 games next year to really get a grasp on what hes going to do. I was at the Vandy game last night. Wind and Rain was pretty bad. He through a ball to the opposite has on the field and wind carried it back to midfield and it looked like an overthrow because the WR couldnt make the hard adjustment. Joe is a pretty damn good QB. We are lucky to have him. You guys want to start a freshman that is going to come in and not know how to protect the football.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
Anyone who thinks Tennessee will win 8 games or less in 2023 is a certified Negavol in my opinion. I think Tennessee will be winning 9-10 games every season from here on out with CJH.
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I don't think it's out of the question to assume we would have been 8-4 or maybe 7-5 without Hooker this season. Our roster isn't a 10-2 SEC caliber. We'll be closer next season to being a consistent 9-10 win program, but it's obviously uncertain whether or not we'll have the leader and playmaker we need at QB. At least until Nico is ready. I don't think we win 9-10 games with Milton at QB. Just my opinion.
 
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keenobserver said:
I don't think it's out of the question to assume we would have been 8-4 or maybe 7-5 without Hooker this season. Our roster isn't a 10-2 SEC caliber. We'll be closer next season to being a consistent 9-10 win program, but it's obviously uncertain whether or not we'll have the leader and playmaker we need at QB. At least until Nico is ready. I don't think we win 9-10 games with Milton at QB. Just my opinion.
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I don’t think we do either . . . and I hope I’m wrong. He seems like a good kid and I have a lot of respect for any player that doesn’t automatically look to transfer out when he loses the starting job.
 
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I know this will get the proper response (you're crazy) but Milton just needs to hit a small percentage of the long throws. He stretches the defense so much more, the middle of the field opens up. He must be accurate on the 20 to 30 yard throws to take advantage of stretching the field and he was. But I think it was his ability that lossened up the defense to get those incredible running plays.
 
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keenobserver said:
I don't think it's out of the question to assume we would have been 8-4 or maybe 7-5 without Hooker this season. Our roster isn't a 10-2 SEC caliber. We'll be closer next season to being a consistent 9-10 win program, but it's obviously uncertain whether or not we'll have the leader and playmaker we need at QB. At least until Nico is ready. I don't think we win 9-10 games with Milton at QB. Just my opinion.
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Florida, Pitt, Bama, UGA, LSU, South Carolina, would have all been losses if Milton was @ QB.

These people on here, that continue to just NOT accept what's right in front of them are a disturbing reminder of the that human condition called denial.

I played with average to good QBs. But one of the easiest throws to make was a deep ball straight down the field.
As a WR the last route you run during warm ups are called "easy ups".
It's basically a 9 route (go route) at 3/4 speed. Pitch and catch, The most simple throw a QB can make, even though it's the furthest throw. If you take Pitt/ Bowling Green from 2021, Akron, UTM, Ball State, and of of course Vandy 2022. Milton is 7 of 22 on passes for 30+ yards....

Vols fans...WTF??? How many more times do we need to see him MISS???
he was 1 for 6 last night....haha
 
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He has one more game to prove he has overcome his throwing woes. If he doesn't demonstrate significant improvement, then it will be and should be a truly open competition. I had so much hope that he would have turned the corner, but it just wasn't there yesterday
 
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jtja said:
Milton just doesn’t have it - anyone can see he is not accurate, repeatedly over throws open receivers and he hasn’t fixed that by now he isn’t able to do so.
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Exactly and as many of us have said in other threads, he’s just not a game day player or SEC level QB. People are in total denial if they can’t accept that by now. He is simply a roll-over insurance policy at this point. I think Heupel is smart enough to know for the program and his coaching career, Joe must not be the QB next year.
 
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