Arizona Election Audit

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#3,901
utvolpj said:
More freedom? Not that I recognize.

I said bring troops home not just no new wars. That means eliminating needless bases around the world. He increased military spending which means many new toys that will get used in the future. He removed death reporting from drone strikes which decreased govt accountability
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Get ready to enjoy mandatory vaccinations and policies passed to suppress fake domestic terrorism and fake insurrections. Support the uniparty and that's what you'll continue to get. Don't expect anyone to care what you're opinions are on candidates.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
So we're back to square one and want a judge to overturn a certified election and remove a sitting president, but can't point to any statute or constitutional provision that allows for such.
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Again has happened in state elections through the court...it has precedent....and it doesn't have to be a national. It could be those for select states....
 
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#3,904
whodeycin85 said:
Again has happened in state elections through the court...it has precedent....and it doesn't have to be a national. It could be those for select states....
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State elections don't require certification by the electoral college and congress. Presidential elections operate by a different set of rules, none of which mention the decertification of a presidential election and removal of a sitting president. You're going to need to find the most "activist" judge in the country to get that through.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Get ready to enjoy mandatory vaccinations and policies passed to suppress fake domestic terrorism and fake insurrections. Support the uniparty and that's what you'll continue to get. Don't expect anyone to care what you're opinions are on candidates.
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So your claim that he increased my freedom is based on what some other person might do in the future?

I don't support either party with my money or vote and haven't in a very long time. That includes Trump who is fantastic at marketing but falls flat when it comes time to least and really get stuff done. He also send to surround himself with yes men and relatives rather than those who understand govt and policy. It showed in many of the reports about what he wanted to happen vs what he could get done
 
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tnmarktx said:
Get ready to enjoy mandatory vaccinations and policies passed to suppress fake domestic terrorism and fake insurrections. Support the uniparty and that's what you'll continue to get. Don't expect anyone to care what you're opinions are on candidates.
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As I sit back and read your exchanges, you are just as beholden and blind as to your tribe as you accuse others of being as to theirs.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
State elections don't require certification by the electoral college and congress. Presidential elections operate by a different set of rules, none of which mention the decertification of a presidential election and removal of a sitting president. You're going to need to find the most "activist" judge in the country to get that through.
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Hence it will be unknown...but everything started somewhere.
 
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utvolpj said:
So your claim that he increased my freedom is based on what some other person might do in the future?

I don't support either party with my money or vote and haven't in a very long time. That includes Trump who is fantastic at marketing but falls flat when it comes time to least and really get stuff done. He also send to surround himself with yes men and relatives rather than those who understand govt and policy. It showed in many of the reports about what he wanted to happen vs what he could get done
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I'd like to have a better candidate than Trump. If the fact that he was unilaterally hated by the uniparty doesn't clue you in that he was different, you need to wake up. He caved to them mistakenly and it doomed him. I want an opposition candidate first and foremost. If you think understanding govt and policy as the one party rule has mandated it for decades in this country should be the norm, or if you believe what's "reported" no one should care what you think about their chosen candidate.
 
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tnmarktx said:
I'd like to have a better candidate than Trump. If the fact that he was unilaterally hated by the uniparty doesn't clue you in that he was different, you need to wake up. He caved to them mistakenly and it doomed him. I want an opposition candidate first and foremost. If you think understanding govt and policy as the one party rule has mandated it for decades in this country should be the norm, or if you believe what's "reported" no one should care what you think about their chosen candidate.
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He was only an opposition candidate because he didn't understand govt and made random promises he had no intention of keeping (and couldn't really even if he did). He got the nom because of the huge field splitting votes. The man had no business being in that office and it showed.

The fact you admit he didn't do what he claimed he would kinda cements my point. You voted for a suit
 
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tnmarktx said:
I'd like to have a better candidate than Trump. If the fact that he was unilaterally hated by the uniparty doesn't clue you in that he was different, you need to wake up. He caved to them mistakenly and it doomed him. I want an opposition candidate first and foremost. If you think understanding govt and policy as the one party rule has mandated it for decades in this country should be the norm, or if you believe what's "reported" no one should care what you think about their chosen candidate.
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People didn't hate him because he was different. They hated him because he was dick that catered to the lowest common denominator. And he had no understanding of complex problems or government operations and had no interest in learning.
 
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utvolpj said:
He was only an opposition candidate because he didn't understand govt and made random promises he had no intention of keeping (and couldn't really even if he did). He got the nom because of the huge field splitting votes. The man had no business being in that office and it showed.

The fact you admit he didn't do what he claimed he would kinda cements my point. You voted for a suit
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Thanks for making my point. You talk like you know what you want, but you can't find the forest for the trees. Nobody should care about you telling them how to pick candidates.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Thanks for making my point. You talk like you know what you want, but you can't find the forest for the trees. Nobody should care about you telling them how to pick candidates.
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I know what I want. I know Trump, Clinton and Biden aren't even close to it. I listed out my job reqs and you still can't get it. Shrink govt, steal less money, increase freedom. That's pretty much it
 
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#3,917
utvolpj said:
I know what I want. I know Trump, Clinton and Biden aren't even close to it. I listed out my job reqs and you still can't get it. Shrink govt, steal less money, increase freedom. That's pretty much it
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You don't like the uniparty, but you think the status quo of policies and the complete and utter corruption in all areas of our government is ok?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Has any president done that...they all promise that..next??
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I don't know one who has claimed they could do it completely in their term. He actually did the opposite and then stated he doesn't care about budgets anyway. True conservatism
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't know one who has claimed they could do it completely in their term. He actually did the opposite and then stated he doesn't care about budgets anyway. True conservatism
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Any they all say to lower or eliminate..do you have anything else you was that you big reveal??
 
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tnmarktx said:
If you believe anyone that says this you're being foolish. Can't be done in 8 years.
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I didn't believe him and laughed when it was said. I laughed at so much of what he said until it downed on me there were enough just dumb enough to believe it.
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't know one who has claimed they could do it completely in their term. He actually did the opposite and then stated he doesn't care about budgets anyway. True conservatism
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You're not helping your case. Just continue to support a one party rule and complain about it.
 
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utvolpj said:
I didn't believe him and laughed when it was said. I laughed at so much of what he said until it downed on me there were enough just dumb enough to believe it.
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A smart person would've realized it was just talk. I voted for the 4 things you claim you want and got 2 out of 4. As a bonus, the corrupted gov that we have unmasked themselves because of their hatred for a candidate they didn't approve of. Probably the single greatest thing to come out of a Trump presidency.
 
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