Arizona Election Audit

[NCFisher]

You made the claim it was privately funded. That is either proven or just you speculating

No, I stated the factual that it's widely reported the audit is privately funded; here:
maricopa audit is privately funded - Google Search

 

[utvolpj]

Glad you know what my reaction would have been. Man you need to share that crystal ball with me so I can cash in on some stocks or maybe the lottery.

I really don't care what they do in Arizona. It doesn't affect me at all. You seem to be butt hurt over it so go ahead pitch your fit. All I'm saying is my confidence in the integrity of our elections are eroding with each election. When that happens to enough people, the results won't be pretty.

The fact you asked the question about kavanaugh said it. You viewed the one inquiry as a waste so it easy to assume months and months of inquiries ate he had already been confirmed would be worth at least some condemnation

I said to buy ethereum a while back.

 

[hUTch2002]

Trump brought a lot of his problems on himself. The constant barrage of lies and insults he tweeted caused his own demise. If he had stayed off twitter and acted like an adult, he would have won a second term.

I agree he didn’t help himself but the assault started long before he even stepped into the role. Also, I believe I just read a post where you called for NCFisher to be better and not stoop to the level of others. The same should apply to politicians but good luck with that. I actually believe he would’ve been re-elected had the various election laws not been changed in multiple states, regardless of Trump’s tweeting.

 

[utvolpj]

Doesn't really matter how it's funded, the AZ state legislatures run their elections and they have the right to audit and investigate how they see fit. The people of AZ elect their officials, if they disapprove of what their elected officials are doing they can vote them out. People outside of AZ whining about an audit in that state is inconsequential.

I lived there for years and still have many friends there. That's why I keep up with it. What's your excuse?

 

[hUTch2002]

Apparently, corporate America running our political process is no longer a concern since Democrats are the party of big business.

It isn’t but it’s scary as hell. I saw an old episode of Elementary the other night and it was right at the end where Holmes and Watson were taking on a rich and basically infinitely powerful tech CEO who was that powerful because he had friends within every lettered agency in the US, their counterparts around the world, and he controlled the media, could sway elections, and more. Hearing them talk about it was eerie as it is exactly what has happened in our country except it isn’t a single person, it’s a political party.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The fact you asked the question about kavanaugh said it. You viewed the one inquiry as a waste so it easy to assume months and months of inquiries ate he had already been confirmed would be worth at least some condemnation

I said to buy ethereum a while back.

You made an assumption since I mentioned Kavanaugh that I pitched a fit about it. I didn't. I wasn't happy about it but I understand where we are politically as a nation. My disdain had nothing to do with waste of government resources but more to do with a politically motivated character assassination.

 

[tnmarktx]

I lived there for years and still have many friends there. That's why I keep up with it. What's your excuse?

OK, so you have no dog in the fight. You're just a self proclaimed know it all that's whining about something you have nothing to do with. That's ok on a forum, just don't get mad when no one takes you seriously.

 

[utvolpj]

OK, so you have no dog in the fight. You're just a self proclaimed know it all that's whining about something you have nothing to do with. That's ok on a forum, just don't get mad when no one takes you seriously.

Why would I care of someone like you takes me seriously? By your posts it's obvious you don't care about it

 

[NCFisher]

The pandemic today is much different than it was a year ago. The response would need to be much different as well

I've never stated the fed govt should force anything on states. In fact I've consistently stated the opposite. Trump is the one who made Fauci the face of the US pandemic response. It was a time for guidance and leadership and he chose to let others handle it. That's not a leader

It's different because we have vaccines that many of the media-touted experts said couldn't happen in such a timeframe, or that it was a dream scenario. Just as military and foreign policy experts said no progress in the ME unless the world sucks up to the Arabs calling themselves Palestinians, were proven wrong.

I didn't say you did but pointed out that many governors failed their state responses, as de facto president of their state. I do agree that Fauci having an outsized role was mistake, and the left demanded it. And he's now Biden's Chief Medical Adviser. We know a Biden presidency would not have been as effective since they'd not have closed China travel in Jan. and likely would not have bucked the FDA, CDC bureaucracy where quick vaccine development goes to die. Obama/Biden didn't leave a national stash of PPE or respirators, or really anything needed to respond to a 100-year pandemic. The CDC 'experts' insisted upon their own test and completely whiffed, putting us in a two month testing deficit.

So, even with hindsight, how would another president's response be better than Trump's? They certainly are no where to be found, even after the fact.
Trump created a new paradigm for vaccine development and deployment, a new standard. That focus on accelerating vaccine production, has and will save millions of lives in the future, and mitigate economic fallout and general misery. Here and globally. That's pretty ***** substantial under any rule of measurement.

 

[OHvol40]

Yeah, without sarcasm this time and actually mean it. Like the Russian intel and government officials Steele, also a foreign agent, said were the dirt providers in his dossier.

 

[Tastylicks]

When I saw that I couldn't believe he would say something so anti-American and so stupid.

it was just the beginning though...

 

[NorthDallas40]

What was the finding of the great Mueller on this whole “Russia if you’re listening” BS?

 

[NCFisher]

Again, how is that anything other than a sarcastic reference to the fact that incurious media takes no interest in the scandal?
And, you didn't address the other half of my comment re: Clinton and DNC funding what became a political abuse of power by intel, FBI and DOJ, that actually WAS Russia propaganda packaged into a dossier by yet ANOTHER foreign agent who admits wanting to prevent the election of Trump - ?

Square it up or appear a dishonest broker.

 

[VolinWayne]

So apparently they can also detect if the paper ballots have Bamboo in them which would be a dead giveaway that they were shipped here from another country. I know at one time there was a conspiracy about ballots being flown in from another country. I guess we will find out if it's true or not. Either way, Rachel is in meltdown mode

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Trump did not frame himself into baseless FBI and special counsel investigations whose basis were in actuality Russian propaganda paid for by the opposition candidate.
And there was a 100-year pandemic.

LMFAO!

 

[NCFisher]

Yes exactly. I don't see how anybody in their right mind does not have a problem with that. And to think that anybody with the capabilities can do what Matt Dinero has discovered in Antrim County.

Instead of dismissing what is a straightforward machine examination, I'd like to see a Democrat approved election 'expert' tell us why Jeffery Lundberg's examination is invalid and not exponentially indicative.

 

[NCFisher]

LMFAO!

But you can't articulate a rebuttal.
Maybe if you weren't laughing through your ass, you could spare a breath and do so, thanks!

 

[USAFgolferVol]

But you can't articulate a rebuttal.
Maybe if you weren't laughing through your ass, you could spare a breath and do so, thanks!

That you continue to defend Trump is pretty hilarious

 

[hUTch2002]

Beat me to it.

Also instances of them going door to door and verifying votes toes the line of voter intimidation. We don't know how those conversations are going exactly. I know if someone knocks on my door and asks me who I voted for ill promptly slam the door in their face.

If the system in place requires door to door knocking to verify votes then it is a bad system. This is why paper copies should be kept with original signatures.

 

[NCFisher]

That you continue to defend Trump is pretty hilarious

I vilify government agencies for using an entirely discredited dossier - that they knew in Jan 2017 was baseless - paid for by Trump's political opposition. A dossier whose sources Steele claimed were Russian intel and government officials. Russian propaganda by a British propaganda hit-man.

Defending Trump is incidental to stating this factual conclusion. If this were Obama, whom I've no respect for, I'd STILL be "defending" against evil bureaucratic bastards taking a crap on our legal system and constitution, and thus defending Obama. Because unlike you, I value my liberty more than my dislike of him.

That's the difference between us. That people like you are logically incapable of such distinction is damned pathetic, but worse, dangerous to the country.
That you continue to use "LOL" and "LMAO" past the age of 15 is just sad.

 

[Sandman 423]

When I saw that I couldn't believe he would say something so anti-American and so stupid.

it was just the beginning though...

It was one of the first "Is this guy stupid moments", but GTFO with the anti american crap

 

[NCFisher]

How many audits are needed before enough is enough? 3? 10?

They'll always claim that any cutoff was only done to hide the truth. They were so very close on audit 7 only to be thwarted by the evil deep state

A VALID audit would compare the paper ballot to the machine count certified by the county. That has not been done in AZ or any state to my knowledge.

ARIZONA: Former Secretary of State Speaks at Maricopa Audit Press Conference, Reveals Audit on Track for Completion Date
Ken Bennett, the former Arizona Secretary of State, spoke at a press conference on Tuesday, revealing that the Maricopa County forensic audit is on track, approaching around 100,000 votes counted so far.

Bennett, who is currently acting as a liaison between the Arizona Senate and the Florida-based organization Cyber Ninjas who is handling the forensic audit of the Maricopa County 2020 election results, spoke at the press conference on Tuesday afternoon, in what turned out to be an effort of debunking leftist allegations attacking the audit. “This is about wrong and right, and we want to be on the side of right,” Bennett said, noting that the ballots have had 24/7 armed security since the beginning of the audit, and confirmed that no voters could be identified, something the Democrats had previously claimed.

“We’re going to be able to tell every Arizonan in a few weeks that they have complete trust and integrity in their elections, or we have some parts of the election that needs to be improved,” Bennett said, noting that the Secretary of State in Arizona would do a similar process every two years. “There’s nothing about this audit that has anything to do with trying to overturn the 2020 election,” he added. “It’s only about how to make elections better going forward.”

The former Secretary of State was joined by John Brakey, a progressive Democrat and election integrity expert in Arizona who has been supporting the audit. Brakey explained how that this was the first audit, not the third or fourth as some media had claimed. Previous so-called “audits” amounted to checking batches of ballots that had been pre-selected beforehand, with the “logic and accuracy” tests only confirming that everything had been working at the time. Brakey compared the latter to the car emissions test that Volkswagen had faked up to 2015.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

I vilify government agencies for using an entirely discredited dossier - that they knew in Jan 2017 was baseless - paid for by Trump's political opposition. A dossier whose sources Steele claimed were Russian intel and government officials. Russian propaganda by a British propaganda hit-man.

Defending Trump is incidental to stating this factual conclusion. If this were Obama, whom I've no respect for, I'd STILL be "defending" against evil bureaucratic bastards taking a crap on our legal system and constitution, and thus defending Obama. Because unlike you, I value my liberty more than my dislike of him.

That's the difference between us. That people like you are logically incapable of such distinction is damned pathetic, but worse, dangerous to the country.
That you continue to use "LOL" and "LMAO" past the age of 15 is just sad.

I've stated on many occasions the Russia investigation was a farce without merit. That you need to hurl false characterizations towards me is hilarious. Still, Trump brought most of the grief upon himself. That you can't recognize that fact is indicative of your intellectual dishonesty

 

[NCFisher]

I've stated on many occasions the Russia investigation was a farce without merit. That you need to hurl false characterizations towards me is hilarious. Still, Trump brought most of the grief upon himself. That you can't recognize that fact is indicative of your intellectual dishonesty

Then don't characterize my comments as just "defending Trump", and it won't appear you don't care about the those things.

Trump brought some criticism upon himself, but mostly in the act of fighting over four years of collusion narrative. He didn't steal horses but he sure was guilty of trying not to be hung for it. The false narratives, including the lie repeated probably thousands of times in media and millions of times in the public, that he said neo-Nazis, etc. were "very fine people" and thus sympathetic and dog-whistling. Biden, Harris, media, and Dem politicians generally STILL circulate that lie, the basis for countless variations of Trump is a racist, white supremacist and so on. It was even a lie that "Trump has lied 20,000 times" or whatever. Trump was deserving of VALID criticisms, but few of the cornucopia actually directed at him.

There's my honesty badge.

 

[Tastylicks]

It was one of the first "Is this guy stupid moments", but GTFO with the anti american crap

Asking our adversaries to get involved in our election process is anti-American. period.