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When you are down 10-2 at home, it's probably not ideal to have your "song" play when heading to the plate especially when it's GnR "Sweet Child o Mine".
 
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I can't remember when he pitched last, but it seems crazy. You went and got two guys out of the dumpster to pick in this exact situation, but you've used them so much in actual game situations lately that now you're using your setup guy in an 8 run game. Genius!
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I can't remember when he pitched last, but it seems crazy. You went and got two guys out of the dumpster to pick in this exact situation, but you've used them so much in actual game situations lately that now you're using your setup guy in an 8 run game. Genius!
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Five days ago, but i don't care if it's two weeks on the bench in April. He had around 90 appearances last year. He doesn't *need* to get work in. He's not that type of pitcher. He throws two pitches... sinker and change-up. It ain't complicated.
 
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Venters hasn't pitched in five days. Probably needs the work or he'll be all over the place when he comes in tomorrow in a pressure situation.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Venters hasn't pitched in five days. Probably needs the work or he'll be all over the place when he comes in tomorrow in a pressure situation.
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With Venters, it's not his pitch placement that gets outs. It's his arm motion and late movement. It doesn't really matter if he throws in and out as it's darting around naturally.
 
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_vol said:
With Venters, it's not his pitch placement that gets outs. It's his arm motion and late movement. It doesn't really matter if he throws in and out as it's darting around naturally.
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He has bouts with wildness..as evidence by his two walks. He flies open and let's his arm drag often. Needs to pitch to stay sharp. No problem here. I literally hate Fredi as much if not more than anyone, but this isn't an issue.
 
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TBrown said:
He has bouts with wildness..as evidence by his two walks. He flies open and let's his arm drag often. Needs to pitch to stay sharp. No problem here. I literally hate Fredi as much if not more than anyone, but this isn't an issue.
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All sinker ball pitchers struggle with wildness, of course. It's still embedded in my mind how exhausted he was in Sept. last year. He was done in August. Would hate to see this happen again. I lean towards less extra work for the guy considering recent events.
 
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They've played five blowout games in a row (if you set aside the runs Durbin gave up in the 9th against the Brewers on Sunday). Tough to maintain any sort of bullpen roles when you go through a stretch like that. I don't have a problem with Venters coming in tonight; better to get him a needless appearance after he's had almost a whole week off than to lose tomorrow because he walks the bases loaded when he comes in. If the Braves were to win or lose big tomorrow, then Kimbrel should probably pitch an inning too.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
They've played five blowout games in a row (if you set aside the runs Durbin gave up in the 9th against the Brewers on Sunday). Tough to maintain any sort of bullpen roles when you go through a stretch like that. I don't have a problem with Venters coming in tonight; better to get him a needless appearance after he's had almost a whole week off than to lose tomorrow because he walks the bases loaded when he comes in. If the Braves were to win or lose big tomorrow, then Kimbrel should probably pitch an inning too.
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Agree.

Let the record show something. Fredi deserves credit. This could have gone downhill fast, and the Braves have looked like the best team in the NL after the 0-4 start.
 
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_vol said:
75 runs scored in 13 games leading to 5.8 runs per game. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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If Heyward continues his hot start, and Freddie is back, I have no reason to believe this can't keep up.
 
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zjcvols said:
Agree.

Let the record show something. Fredi deserves credit. This could have gone downhill fast, and the Braves have looked like the best team in the NL after the 0-4 start.
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Since the 0-4 start they are 8-1. So bad to so good. Hopefully this will not be a jekyll-hyde type team.
 
#8,898
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The fundamental problem with the Braves' bullpen workload is that, tonight notwithstanding, none of the starters can work into the 7th or 8th with any regularity at all. No bullpen in baseball has 7 reliably good relievers. So if you're having to use three or four relievers literally every single night, there's almost no way to avoid burning up the bullpen. None of Fredi's workload "management" is going to make any difference either way if at least a couple of the starters can't start going deep into the game most of the time.
 
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zjcvols said:
Agree.

Let the record show something. Fredi deserves credit. This could have gone downhill fast, and the Braves have looked like the best team in the NL after the 0-4 start.
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Fredi didn't do a damn thing to turn it around. Heyward and Freeman both started mashing the baseball and the offensive problems have gone away for awhile. He's still making stupid moves; it's just that the hitters are scoring a pantload of runs and making those moves irrelevant.

His best and most daring move so far has probably been not benching Heyward like he usually does during Heyward's nine-game hitting streak. Genius.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Fredi didn't do a damn thing to turn it around. Heyward and Freeman started mashing the baseball. He's still making stupid moves; it's just that the hitters are scoring a pantload of runs and making those moves irrelevant.

His best and most daring move so far has probably been not benching Heyward like he usually does during Heyward's nine-game hitting streak. Genius.
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If we are not going to blame him for not righting the ship last year, then we have to give credit for him righting the ship this year, no?
 
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