Auburn/Cam Newton situation (merged)

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Lawrence Wright said:
Meyer has nothing to gain, other than being personally vindictive. Ratting out Cam doesn't help UF win games, and it certain won't help with recruits.

On top of that, the timing couldn't be worse, considering UF is one victory away from potentially playing AU for the SEC title. Why would Urban knowingly take a bat to the proverbial beehive to piss AU off? Then there's that federal law prohibiting the unauthorized disclosure of a students' educational records.

Coming off a couple national titles in the past 5 years you'd think UM would have bigger fish to fry. I honestly don't know if UM leaked the information or not. But clearly you guys know better.
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Meyer has a reputation as a total douche to uphold. That's the only thing I can think of.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Meyer has nothing to gain, other than being personally vindictive. Ratting out Cam doesn't help UF win games, and it certain won't help with recruits.
On top of that, the timing couldn't be worse, considering UF is one victory away from potentially playing AU for the SEC title. Why would Urban knowingly take a bat to the proverbial beehive to piss AU off? Then there's that federal law prohibiting the unauthorized disclosure of a students' educational records.

Coming off a couple national titles in the past 5 years you'd think UM would have bigger fish to fry. I honestly don't know if UM leaked the information or not. But clearly you guys know better.
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I would say Meyer has quite a bit to gain if he faces Auburn in the SECCG and could somehow show Cam is ineligible.
 
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tvolsfan said:
An Ohio State blog reported Meyer told a recruit he would die for him.
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Corrected that for you.

Shariff Floyd himself said that wasn't true....but it plays well over here, so continue to believe what you want.

Why on earth would Ohio State have an axe to grind with Florida....we haven't played those guys with anything on the line recently....in high profile sports at least.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Corrected that for you.

Shariff Floyd himself said that wasn't true....but it plays well over here, so continue to believe what you want.

Why on earth would Ohio State have an axe to grind with Florida....we haven't played those guys with anything on the line recently....in high profile sports at least.
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And Alshon Jeffery said Kiffin never called Gamecock grads gas pumpers.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Corrected that for you.

Shariff Floyd himself said that wasn't true....but it plays well over here, so continue to believe what you want.

Why on earth would Ohio State have an axe to grind with Florida....we haven't played those guys with anything on the line recently....in high profile sports at least.
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WTH? Check 2007 BCS NCG. Just 4 years ago.
 
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rjd970 said:
I would say Meyer has quite a bit to gain if he faces Auburn in the SECCG.
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That's the case whether Meyer ratted out Newton or not.

Ask yourself what Meyer's motivation would be to do so with AU potentially looming on the schedule. It's not like AU would declare Newton ineligible based on a rival coach's allegations.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
That's the case whether Meyer ratted out Newton or not.

Ask yourself what Meyer's motivation would be to do so with AU potentially looming on the schedule. It's not like AU would declare Newton ineligible based on a rival coach's allegations.
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What?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
That's the case whether Meyer ratted out Newton or not.

Ask yourself what Meyer's motivation would be to do so with AU potentially looming on the schedule. It's not like AU would declare Newton ineligible based on a rival coach's allegations.
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But it would be enough to get the NCAA sniffing around. Given Cam's history at Florida, something could pan out. To say nothing of what supposedly happened at MSU.

I'm just saying, given a very likely scenario of AU/UF SECCG, Florida...ie Meyer...has the most to gain for Cam not playing. Conference championship, BCS birth, etc...

I agree reason for something isn't evidence, but it fits Meyer's personality.
 
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tvolsfan said:
What?
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rjd's said:
I would say Meyer has quite a bit to gain if he faces Auburn in the SECCG.
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To paraphrase, my answer was "duh". Meyer has plenty to gain regardless of who UF potentially matches up with in Atlanta....whether or not the rumors about UM ratting out Auburn are true.

If you're of the opinion that Meyer has any influence whatsoever on Cam Newton's eligibility, then I respectfully disagree with that opinion.
 
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rjd970 said:
But it would be enough to get the NCAA sniffing around. Given Cam's history at Florida, something could pan out. To say nothing of what supposedly happened at MSU.

I'm just saying, given a very likely scenario of AU/UF SECCG, Florida...ie Meyer...has the most to gain for Cam not playing. Conference championship, BCS birth, etc...

I agree reason for something isn't evidence, but it fits Meyer's personality.
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I think you give Meyer far too much credit for things he has no control over.
 
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what's better? auburn pays off newton and no one hears about it or it comes to light?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Meyer has nothing to gain, other than being personally vindictive. Ratting out Cam doesn't help UF win games, and it certain won't help with recruits.
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Well it could potentially help Florida win games. Definitely. Say this whole ordeal causes Cam to be ineligible for the SEC Championship, which Florida will most likely be facing them in. Makes that game much more winnable, which means automatic BCS birth. Which means substantially more money for the school, and probably something in his contract that gives him a bonus. May not be, but I bet it does. Don't be so naive or homer.
On top of that, the timing couldn't be worse, considering UF is one victory away from potentially playing AU for the SEC title. Why would Urban knowingly take a bat to the proverbial beehive to piss AU off? Then there's that federal law prohibiting the unauthorized disclosure of a students' educational records.
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Well obviously this being against the law didn't stop it from getting out, did it? Plus the fact that it was his records at Florida that got out, that CLEARLY puts the University of Florida and SOMEONE that is affiliated with them as the likely culprit for the leak. That cannot be denied, either. It has nothing with wanting to piss AU off, this whole thing has to do with someone trying to be vindictive or gain a competitive advantage.
Coming off a couple national titles in the past 5 years you'd think UM would have bigger fish to fry. I honestly don't know if UM leaked the information or not. But clearly you guys know better.
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No one here claims to know, but some people here choose to think he is the most likely person to have been behind it, especially with his ties to the two "journalists" who wrote the stories. Being connected to that wannabe Thaymel is one thing. Everyone knows Urban is in bed with that hack. But then being connected to the reporter at another media agency that leaked the grade info?? Just coincidence, I guess? Like I said, no one here says they KNOW anything, but just like you....we choose to believe what we believe. By the way, love the pot shot about bigger fish to fry after your 2 titles in 5 years. Even in a pathetic smear campaign a Florida fan can't help but point out the record of winning.

My biggest problem with fans like you is you choose to completely act like your coach is a saint. Anyone who really follows this league knows Urban is just as dirty in the facets of his program as many other coaches are. No one tried to act like Lane Kiffin was a saint when he was here. We all knew he was probably cheating with his recruiting, and was a person with very little character, if any, but don't act like Urban is squeaky clean. He has a track record of questionable recruiting practices, now has plenty of smoke around him with about three different stories that have been written by media outlets over the past two seasons, and has had the worst record in the country with players getting in trouble off the field and then acting like nothing ever happened. Just because ESPN chooses to take 2 seconds to cover Dunlap's DUI last year, which got him suspended for one whole game (a joke), but spend about 40 man hours and about an hour of time over the weeks on Lane calling out Urban at a recruiting luncheon doesn't mean Urban is comparable to the pope like Florida fans want to try and make him out to be.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Better for who? Auburn's done if they paid him and it comes to light.
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In my opinion Auburn would rather win it all and have it stripped than risk not making the BCS title game.

Bama might have more to say about it than the NCAA before the season ends.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
In my opinion Auburn would rather win it all and have it stripped than risk not making the BCS title game.

Bama might have more to say about it than the NCAA before the season ends.
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Even if they win it all, if the allegations are true, Auburn's not going to be competitive in football for some time.
 
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