Baltimore Unrest

#126
#126
I'm currently watching the Orange and White replay so I haven't kept up.

Have the Founding Fathers started looting again tonight?
 
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#127
#127
Grand Vol said:
I'm currently watching the Orange and White replay so I haven't kept up.

Have the Founding Fathers started looting again tonight?
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Misrepresenting the position of those you find yourself opposed to has little-to-no consequence here, but damn I hate to think how you might have applied this tactic to your police work back in the day.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Misrepresenting the position of those you find yourself opposed to has little-to-no consequence here, but damn I hate to think how you might have applied this tactic to your police work back in the day.
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I'm sure it'll keep you awake at night.
 
#129
#129
n_huffhines said:
You think the guys who dressed up as Indians and dumped private property into the ocean were a group of rational, brave, compassionate do-gooders. It was likely mostly a group made up of uneducated, rebellious trouble-makers, just like in Baltimore.
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How do you know they are uneducated?
 
#132
#132
n_huffhines said:
This is such BS. So he can't carry a knife, because he's violated drug laws that shouldn't exist. I know, I know, but why does he need a knife? Maybe because he lives in one of the most dangerous inner cities in America. The fact that he didn't have a gun and just a knife tells me he's a somewhat rational criminal.

Looks like he's never been convicted of violent crime. This is all completely unnecessary. The law is so dumb. The law is the biggest problem-maker for police/citizen relationships.
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I cannot fathom this line of thinking. I understand the illogic leading to it, I just can't make the leap that rationalizes breaking the law, doing time, then wash/rinse/repeat several more times. And somehow this is the laws problem?
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I cannot fathom this line of thinking. I understand the illogic leading to it, I just can't make the leap that rationalizes breaking the law, doing time, then wash/rinse/repeat several more times. And somehow this is the laws problem?
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What doesnt make sense about needing a weapon because he lives in a dangerous place and its the cops fault and we should get rid of laws?
 
#134
#134
82_VOL_83 said:
I cannot fathom this line of thinking. I understand the illogic leading to it, I just can't make the leap that rationalizes breaking the law, doing time, then wash/rinse/repeat several more times. And somehow this is the laws problem?
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Perhaps you would see things different if you grew up in the collectivist utopia that is inner city project housing. And serving time severely limits any chance you might have had of living an economically productive life after the return to society. So it isn't really that shocking that these people would turn back to a life of criminal activity.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Perhaps you would see things different if you grew up in the collectivist utopia that is inner city project housing. And serving time severely limits any chance you might have had of living an economically productive life after the return to society. So it isn't really that shocking that these people would turn back to a life of criminal activity.
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Yes because prison is fun the first time so we should go as often as possible!
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I cannot fathom this line of thinking. I understand the illogic leading to it, I just can't make the leap that rationalizes breaking the law, doing time, then wash/rinse/repeat several more times. And somehow this is the laws problem?
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Yeah, the problem is with the law. You break the law all the time. I do too. Unfortunately for Gray, he breaks drug laws that get enforced.

None of the laws you, me, or Gray break should be on the books, but it's his problem, not the law's and not yours?
 
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mrorange211 said:
And this is what happens when one group of people are victimized by particular laws designed to disenfranchise them. JMO
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Ehhh, while I agree that we need to eliminate, change our drug laws I disagree that they are in place to disenfranchise any particular group.
 
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mrorange211 said:
And this is what happens when one group of people are victimized by particular laws designed to disenfranchise them. JMO
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How are laws designed to disenfranchise a particular group of people? Are you saying violent crimes, armed robbery, burglary, drug dealing, drug usage, and more are designed to target blacks and not criminals? I know where your opinion belongs.
 
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hog88 said:
Ehhh, while I agree that we need to eliminate, change our drug laws I disagree that they are in place to disenfranchise any particular group.
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Whether it's the intent or not, it is the result. Milton Friedman said the biggest mistake we make as a society is judging government programs by their intent and not their result, but as we all know the path to hell is paved with good intentions and greed has solved a lot of the world's problems. Government motives don't really matter, IMO.
 
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hog88 said:
Ehhh, while I agree that we need to eliminate, change our drug laws I disagree that they are in place to disenfranchise any particular group.
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That may not have been the original goal. But it is easy to see how someone could think it is the goal these days. The disenfranchisement is a known byproduct of a policy that is known to be innefective. Why continue an ineffective policy with known byproducts unless the byproducts are at least a secondary goal of the policy?
 
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