Baltimore Unrest

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Either that or black women tend to choose deaadbeats to procreate with. Its ok and politically correct to blame the men for their part in this, but placing the same blame and responsibilty on the women is like touchcing the 3 rd rail. It takes 2 to tango. 2 people made a poor decision. however, the man is the only one (generally) threatened with fines and loss of freedom. The women, on the otherhand are given Section 8 housing, food stamps, utility subsidies and all kinds of other wonderful cash and prizes for simply opening their legs. They are the only ones that have a financial incentive to keep making poor decisions and bringing new souls into the world where the biological father is optional or not desireable.
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Their government encourages these poor decisions.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Let's pretend I'm the leader of a gang. Me and 5 of my gang buddies kidnap somebody. While in our possession, the person dies (we can even pretend it was an accident). A week later we all get caught.

Should they just charge me, since I'm the leader, and let everybody else go?
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The difference is intent. Making a mistake and doing something knowingly is something that the courts recognize. (Good faith) . In otherwords, they're not kidnapping him, one of them is arresting him. Possibly illegally, but that is tbd in court. 5 others are not arresting him, they are simply there as part of their job description, a supervisor is on the scene, no obvious physical abuse of the suspect is occurring and it most definitely is not race related.

They should charge only those who are directly responsible for his death.

Another thing to ponder is how in the world they get the autopsy report in the same morning and within hours they have warrants for everyone's arrest.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Either that or black women tend to choose deaadbeats to procreate with. Its ok and politically correct to blame the men for their part in this, but placing the same blame and responsibilty on the women is like touchcing the 3 rd rail. It takes 2 to tango. 2 people made a poor decision. however, the man is the only one (generally) threatened with fines and loss of freedom. The women, on the otherhand are given Section 8 housing, food stamps, utility subsidies and all kinds of other wonderful cash and prizes for simply opening their legs. They are the only ones that have a financial incentive to keep making poor decisions and bringing new souls into the world where the biological father is optional or not desireable.
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Women have been given "all kinds of wonderful cash and prizes for simply opening their legs" since the beginning of time.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I would really like everyone to take a second and look at what was just said.

He's basically saying that he knows the cop detained somebody in a non-legal manner (to lecture them) but since they were pretending to do it legally (seatbelt), he is okay with it.

So whether he even knows he's doing it, he's advocating that law-enforcement be given rights the rest of us don't have. He or I cannot make someone pull over and lecture them when we get flipped off. Law enforcement officers can though.

The funny thing is… If he ever encounters an over-entitled cop who simply didn't like something he'd done, regardless of its legality, they'd do the same to him. His years of blind loyalty and obedience would mean nothing.
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I've never had it cross my mind to wish someone goes to jail just because we disgree and have an argument. But I guess cops need to be shown respect and have Super-Constitutional Powers.

The seatbelt/fellatio charge that cop came up with and the "dont point that camera at me because it might be a weapon" guy are the poorest examples of protecting and serving I've seen in a while.
 
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Will the protestors/agitators finally stop making the claim of racism for this incident since it's been revealed that three of the six officers are black?
 
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ETV said:
The mayor has shown where her allegiances lie by the comments made today after the charges were announced... and it's not with the Baltimore PD.
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Where should her allegiances be?

Think about this carefully. I'm sure when she took office, she made an oath to something.
 
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ETV said:
Will the protestors/agitators finally stop making the claim of racism for this incident since it's been revealed that three of the six officers are black?
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But Goodson is light skinned, he's the one they've labeled an uncle tom.
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tim said:
The difference is intent. Making a mistake and doing something knowingly is something that the courts recognize. (Good faith) . In otherwords, they're not kidnapping him, one of them is arresting him. Possibly illegally, but that is tbd in court. 5 others are not arresting him, they are simply there as part of their job description, a supervisor is on the scene, no obvious physical abuse of the suspect is occurring and it most definitely is not race related.

They should charge only those who are directly responsible for his death.

Another thing to ponder is how in the world they get the autopsy report in the same morning and within hours they have warrants for everyone's arrest.
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You say intent... I say perception.
 
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ETV said:
Will the protestors/agitators finally stop making the claim of racism for this incident since it's been revealed that three of the six officers are black?
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Like Icecube said:

"Without a gun he don't want none.
But don't let it be a black and a white one,
Cuz they'll slam you down to the street top.
Black police showing out for the white cop."
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Where should her allegiances be?

Think about this carefully. I'm sure when she took office, she made an oath to something.
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The Mayor should remain somewhat neutral in her position. So yes, she has a duty to represent her voters and act in their best interests. However, she should show support for BPD as well. They are the only ones that kept the thugs from marching to city hall and burning it down.
 
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ETV said:
The Mayor should remain somewhat neutral in her position. So yes, she has a duty to represent her voters and act in their best interests. However, she should show support for BPD as well. They are the only ones that kept the thugs from marching to city hall and burning it down.
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No, anser the question. Who or what does the mayor and just about every other elected official in this country make an oath to?
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Let's pretend I'm the leader of a gang. Me and 5 of my gang buddies kidnap somebody. While in our possession, the person dies (we can even pretend it was an accident). A week later we all get caught.

Should they just charge me, since I'm the leader, and let everybody else go?
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Not a cop fan but awful analogy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, anser the question. Who or what does the mayor and just about every other elected official in this country make an oath to?
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I did answer the question Ras.

Since your demanding another response...the mayor is elected by the voters so theoretically her responsibilities should be solely to them. We all know though that's not the case though once the elected official is sworn in.

The mayor also has responsibilities to the civil servants that are in place to assist the mayor carrying out her duties and keeping the city safe not for only a certain community but for the entire city.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I would really like everyone to take a second and look at what was just said.

He's basically saying that he knows the cop detained somebody in a non-legal manner (to lecture them) but since they were pretending to do it legally (seatbelt), he is okay with it.

So whether he even knows he's doing it, he's advocating that law-enforcement be given rights the rest of us don't have. He or I cannot make someone pull over and lecture them when we get flipped off. Law enforcement officers can though.

The funny thing is… If he ever encounters an over-entitled cop who simply didn't like something he'd done, regardless of its legality, they'd do the same to him. His years of blind loyalty and obedience would mean nothing.
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Wow.....it must be said viewing the world like u do....all this faux rage over a guy flipping someone and "gasp" the cop talking to him....I have dealt with a few a$$hole cops before just didn't sit around and cry about it....of course I have dealt with a few piece of sh&t nurses and a bunch of other professions as well.
 
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ETV said:
I did answer the question Ras.

Since your demanding another response...the mayor is elected by the voters so theoretically her responsibilities should be solely to them. We all know though that's not the case though once the elected official is sworn in.

The mayor also has responsibilities to the civil servants that are in place to assist the mayor carrying out her duties and keeping the city safe not for only a certain community but for the entire city.
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I'll ask one more time... Who or what does the mayor of Baltimore and just about every other elected office in this country make an oath to? I'll give you a hint.

SEC. 9. Every person elected, or appointed, to any office of profit or trust, under this Constitution, or under the Laws, made pursuant thereto, shall, before he enters upon the duties of such office, take and subscribe the following oath, or affirmation: I, _______________, do swear, (or affirm, as the case may be,) that I will support the Constitution of the United States; and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of Maryland, and support the Constitution and Laws thereof; and that I will, to the best of my skill and judgment, diligently and faithfully, without partiality or prejudice, execute the office of________________, according to the Constitution and Laws of this State, (and, if a Governor, Senator, Member of the House of Delegates, or Judge,) that I will not directly or indirectly, receive the profits or any part of the profits of any other office during the term of my acting as___________ (originally Article I, sec. 6, renumber
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I dont see anything about voters or cops...
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I understand what you're quoting with regards to the upholding the Constitution.

My point was the mayor has begun leaning to siding with her constituents and a certain part of the community.
 
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ETV said:
I understand what you're quoting with regards to the upholding the Constitution.

My point was the mayor has begun leaning to siding with her constituents and a certain part of the community.
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Could she be siding with justice?

Police misconduct is not limited to white cops. Take a look at the 6 charged in this case, 3 white, 3 black.
 
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ETV said:
I understand what you're quoting with regards to the upholding the Constitution.

My point was the mayor has begun leaning to siding with her constituents and a certain part of the community.
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Is there a chance that Freddie Gray's Constitutional rights may have been violated (Hint 4th, 5th and 8th Amendment)?
 
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