Baltimore Unrest

[1972 Grad]

It's not about him being left alone, it's about the simple concept that people shouldn't die of spinal injuries while in police custody.

I wasn't there, and don't know what happened, unlike some of you. If the police broke his neck willfully, they should be tried for murder. If it was negligence, that should be the charge. I wasn't there.

 

[1972 Grad]

Well when you have six cops who, instead of enforcing the law, take a giant dump on it, society tends to want to crucify them. That's also called the way it is.

Unlike you, I wasn't there in the back with Freddie. I don't know what happened at this point.

 

[GAVol]

So how many paddy wagon's have restraints to completely immobilize a prisoner?

No idea and I don't pretend to know what happened. But I know that whatever happened, it takes more than a minor incident to crush vertebrae. It's not exactly shocking that people got fired up about it and want answers.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I wasn't there, and don't know what happened, unlike some of you. If the police broke his neck willfully, they should be tried for murder. If it was negligence, that should be the charge. I wasn't there.

That is some pretty pathetic negligence if it was an accident, also.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Also, answer me this. It is not uncommon to see Good Humor ice cream trucks rolling through the neighborhoods, serving little boys and girls. I can see that.

But you're telling me that the Baltimore PD is rolling around a paddy wagon all over the hood in expectation of that many arrests being made along the route? Really? I can see having a paddy wagon in waiting somewhere if a big sting operation is going down where you are anticipating a large number of arrests. But how can a squad car not satisfy the number of occupants needed on a regular day of patrolling the streets? Especially when you consider that Freddie Gray's arrest still has a sketchy reasoning for even occurring. You know what it sounds like to me? I bet this paddy wagon roams the streets while these cops go about harassing enough people each day that they can expect to make dozens of arrests for the most flaccid reasons imaginable (and in the case of Gray, seemingly no reason).

Is this the kind of police state we want in this country?

 

[GAVol]

Calm down the hyperbole. I highly doubt the paddy wagon was out just roaming the streets like a dog catcher. I'm sure it gets dispatched.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Calm down the hyperbole. I highly doubt the paddy wagon was out just roaming the streets like a dog catcher. I'm sure it gets dispatched.

Lets go with that. How many stops did this particular paddy wagon make again? How many prisoners were transported while Gray was onboard? Seems like an awful lot of activity.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Lets go with that. How many stops did this particular paddy wagon make again? How many prisoners were transported while Gray was onboard? Seems like an awful lot of activity.

Well we are talking about the Baltimore hood and not romper room

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well we are talking about the Baltimore hood and not romper room

You're correct. I guess those paddy wagons can get filled up with weed smokers and dice rollers relatively quickly.

Good thing we're taking these violent criminals off the streets.

 

[jp1]

Do they make these in prisoner size? That way the officers on bicycles don't have to use the paddy wagon and upset Ras.

 

[vols-1]

No idea and I don't pretend to know what happened. But I know that whatever happened, it takes more than a minor incident to crush vertebrae. It's not exactly shocking that people got fired up about it and want answers.

Then I guess you also know that drug use can weaken bones and the spine’s supporting muscles.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Paddy wagon is racist yall..just fyi.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I wonder how folks are taking the fact that the person facing the most serious charges is black?

 

[Biopsyman]

I wonder how folks are taking the fact that the person facing the most serious charges is black?

And a republican

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

And a republican

lol.

 

[FLVOL_79]

And a republican

Wrong month for april fools

 

[AirVol]

I wonder how folks are taking the fact that the person facing the most serious charges is black?

Al isn't taking it so well.

 

[volbeast33]

I'd love for there to be quite a few changes but overall I'm a happy guy. Here's what it boils down to for me...

I didn't create these rules. I have yet to be consulted for imporvements. Yet still I am forced, by threat of violence, to live by them. The thing is, for now anyway, there are guidelines as to how these rules can be enforced. Law enforcement needs to follow those or be punished like the rest of us.

The thing is... If they don't like the game then they can always just quit. We're not afforded that some luxury.

When I interact with LE I want them to walk as straight of a line as possible. Since I don't advocate better treatment for myself then I do others, as many of you so obviously do, I can't turn a blind eye.

Also... This time he gave a lecture. What about all the other times? All the times to come? He was way to comfortable fabricating probable cause for that to have been his first time and the absolute lack of any real punishment only ensures that it won't be that last. Hope it's not me next time... Hope it's not you...

Lastly... I bet I've dealt with way more POS nurses than you have. Once I began rationalizing their wrong doing then we can re-address that point. Until then it's about as irrelevant as everything else you attempt to base your arguments on.

The other times? I don't judge cops on what may or may not happen in the future....I judge them on the incident they are involved in....Michael brown- innocent, NC shooting- guilty, the Baltimore incident- I'm leaning towards guilty but I want to hear the actual evidence....

I have two sons, one that will probably be like the idiot leaning out his car flipping off the cops when he gets older....I have no problem at all if the cops talk to him and if they let me know he was acting a fool in public like that then I will kick his a$$ when he gets home too.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have two sons, one that will probably be like the idiot leaning out his car flipping off the cops when he gets older....I have no problem at all if the cops talk to him and if they let me know he was acting a fool in public like that then I will kick his a$$ when he gets home too.

I wouldn't trust the majority of these cops with my son's life in their hands nowadays.

 

[McDad]

I wouldn't trust the majority of these cops with my son's life in their hands nowadays.

You really think over 50% of LEOs are corrupt or you just wouldn't trust 50%+?

 

[jp1]

I wouldn't trust the majority of these cops with my son's life in their hands nowadays.

In the case he is describing if the guy hadnt flipped the cop off he would not even had an interaction with him that day.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

In the case he is describing if the guy hadnt flipped the cop off he would not even had an interaction with him that day.

There is no time or place you can offer to me where flipping off a cop, civilian or POTUS deserves a lecture unless the person doing it is a minor and their parents found out.

Fully decked out cops with "tanks" and "assault rifles" approaching civilians about a finger is totally ridiculous on their part and shows just how petty and potentially trigger happy these clowns can be. Then they add insult to injury with a bogus seatbelt/fellatio charge.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You really think over 50% of LEOs are corrupt or you just wouldn't trust 50%+?

Isn't that asking the same thing? Either way, the answer is yes.

 

[McDad]

Isn't that asking the same thing? Either way, the answer is yes.

I don't think it is the same. There are people I don't think are good at their vocation but not corrupted and certainly not sinister

I hope the corruption rate is way below 50%.

 

[Grand Vol]

You really think over 50% of LEOs are corrupt or you just wouldn't trust 0%+?

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