Baltimore Unrest

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n_huffhines said:
No it's not asinine. It's a completely legitimate position to take, and it's probably the right position to take.

Either way, if it is a legal arrest, it doesn't make it a useful arrest.

75 bad arrests per day. What does the average bad arrest cost the tax payer? A few thousand $? So maybe $200k per day spent on bad arrests? What about the social cost? The cost to the individual falsely arrested? This is outrageous. Everybody should be against this.
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I'm all for fixing bad policing so get your panties out of a wad. If this arrest is ultimately ruled illegal we might as well throw open the prison gates as many both violent and non-violent will have grounds for appeal.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm all for fixing bad policing so get your panties out of a wad. If this arrest is ultimately ruled illegal we might as well throw open the prison gates as many both violent and non-violent will have grounds for appeal.
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A false arrest doesn't absolve you of unrelated crimes, so I think your worry about appeals is unfounded.
 
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n_huffhines said:
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A false arrest doesn't absolve you of unrelated crimes, so I think your worry about appeals is unfounded.
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Maybe LG could weight in here. I'm sure there would be a bunch of cases where evidence collected due to the "false" arrest was used to convict.
 
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hog88 said:
Maybe LG could weight in here. I'm sure there would be a bunch of cases where evidence collected due to the "false" arrest was used to convict.
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Evidence collected due to false arrest?

This is what you don't get. Gray runs. OK, the cops think they have PC so they follow. Once they get him and find out they have nothing on him, why do they pursue charges? That's when the bad arrest happens. It's not in the act of searching him.

You're talking about guys who are caught and then found with concealed guns or cocaine, etc. He is not that guy. If they found that stuff on him, it would not be considered a bad arrest. They found a legal knife.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They didn't know that. Not even sure Gray knew there was a warrant out for him.
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You said a moment ago that the police thought they had probable cause when he ran from them, not something I think either one of us believes, and thus once they persued and caught him they ran his info. When it comes back with warrants they have to arrest him. Cops should not have persued him. Once they did, and he came back with warrants, they have to arrest him. Would have been nice if they had you know not killed him and all.
 
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volfanhill said:
You said a moment ago that the police thought they had probable cause when he ran from them, not something I think either one of us believes, and thus once they persued and caught him they ran his info. When it comes back with warrants they have to arrest him. Cops should not have persued him. Once they did, and he came back with warrants, they have to arrest him. Would have been nice if they had you know not killed him and all.
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As I understand it, they didn't run his info. They didn't know he had a warrant when they arrested him. They were just rounding up people in the meat wagon, like they do 75 times a day.
 
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n_huffhines said:
As I understand it, they didn't run his info. They didn't know he had a warrant when they arrested him. They were just rounding up people in the meat wagon, like they do 75 times a day.
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So this one time some worthless fool decides to act up in the wagon it suddenly all becomes wrong.
 
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n_huffhines said:
As I understand it, they didn't run his info. They didn't know he had a warrant when they arrested him. They were just rounding up people in the meat wagon, like they do 75 times a day.
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I bet they knew who he was/is.

If he was recognized and a officer knew there was a warrant, that's all that was needed

March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)
 
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Grand Vol said:
We had violent storms in Oklahoma last night and the news just showed a CVS that was damaged from some flying debris.

But I didn't see it looted. Just the sign damaged.
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Remember Katrina.. Natural distaster.. Sorry Bush's fault.. Looting everywhere..... Hmmmmmmm
 
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@DMVFollowers: 9 people were shot in Baltimore yesterday in 7 different shooting. 2 people have died from these shootings. #PrayForBaltimore

0bama built that
 
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oh #$%*!

uhm, how is this Obama's fault? i don't like the guy or his politics but unless he said something i missed how is this round of shooting his fault. Baltimore is a bad bad city, Obama has next to nothing to do with it. this is all on the city.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
@DMVFollowers: 9 people were shot in Baltimore yesterday in 7 different shooting. 2 people have died from these shootings. #PrayForBaltimore

0bama built that
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Dang I wish I could empathize but my privilege prevents me from doing so. Oh well, back to collecting my ridiculous government salary. :rock:
 
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