Basillo Point about wanting Bama to lose to LSU…

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If we lose to uga, a couple SEC games MUST go our way, or we are out. UGA must beat Ole Miss and Texas must beat TAM. Either one of those go the other way and that win is going to trump our AL win. Also, the LSU/AL winner would end up above us after a GA loss. Leaving us the 5th or maybe even 6th ranked SEC team. Our initial playoff ranking shows we are not favored as a one loss team, being the 5th ranked one loss-team with only ND, Boise St, and SMU behind us. It will be the same or worse if we move into the two-loss group. Not enough good wins and too many weak/close performances.
 
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I want Bama and UGA to lose this weekend and next weekend. I would love the chaos that would cause.

Plus at this point as long as we win out it doesn’t matter what the other teams do. We just have to win!
 
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temptn said:
I Bama wins they are in.
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Same is true for LSU. They'd have two wins against Top Ten teams and their losses would be the first game of the season and a tough road game against A&M. That's why I'm saying the Vols can only benefit from a Bama win because it strengthens our SOS. If we do end up 10-2, we will only miss the playoffs if Ole Miss beats UGA or if Texas A&M beats Texas - allowing both Texas teams to get in.

And even if A&M does beat Texas, we would have an argument to get in ahead of those teams if we play UGA close and have a win against 10-2 Bama on our resume. Texas hasn't beat anybody to date and A&M's best win would be against Texas.

And even if Ole Miss beats UGA, there's no guarantee that they would finish ahead of us.. UK loss vs our ARK loss, LSU (9-3) loss comparable to our UGA (10-2) loss, UGA comparable to our Bama (10-2) win - but that only holds true if Bama beats LSU. If Bama loses and Ole Miss wins, we are likely out.

That's a long way of saying there's multiple realistic paths for us to get in at 10-2 but we need the Bama win to look better, not worse.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Last year proved that if you beat Bama they'll drag you into the playoffs with them. Yes the committee will be biased toward them. A bias that has been earned by the way. But we saw last year they honored Texas victory over Alabama and kicked FSU out eventhough they were undefeated. If Alabama doesn't beat Georgia in the SEC title game Texas wouldn't have made it over undefeated FSU.

So yes both things can be right. Alabama will definitely get the benefit of the doubt over us despite our head to head win but the committee knows how bad it looks to not honor head to head. So if Bama gets in with 2 losses we'll most likely ride their coattails into the playoffs like Texas did last year. Thus there's no logical reason to root against Alabama as a Tennessee fan no matter how much some of you simple minded fans will try to say there is.
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If anything last year proves head to head matters over everything. Bama didn't deserve to be on the playoffs, but they beat Georgia, and therfore were in the playoffs. It's truly that simple.
 
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jaydhugs said:
Tony Basillo made an interesting point about wanting Bama to lose to LSU.
If you have cynical view regarding the preferential treatment Bama gets and the benefits of doubt they have received in the past, you want Bama to lose.

A 10-2 Bama with a win AT LSU, AT NIGHT likely has a more impressive resume than a (hypothetical) 10-2 Tennessee, even with the head to head. We have already seen how one playoff committee uses head-to-head match-ups to pick teams; see 2022. The Bama brand still has a national media draw—more so than Tennessee, even though we are moving into the forefront—they would get in over us.

Worth a watc.

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A 3 loss Bama team is out, period. Brand name be damned, 3 loss Bama team is out.
 
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LSU beating Alabama will help kill the myth that Alabama is still "Alabama". Letting the recruits of America know that Alabama is no longer a national title contender team only helps us in recruiting. Alabama had a hell of a run. But it's time to show the world that it's over. Georgia didn't even make the playoff last year. If they get beat by Ole Miss this weekend, there's a chance they don't even make a 12 team playoff. Because they still have to play us. If Ole Miss beats Georgia and we beat Georgia and knock them out of the playoff contention, we appear to be the number one team in the SEC and very likely the number one team in the nation. Recruits can't ignore us if we beat Florida Georgia and Alabama in the same year with a freshman quarterback.
 
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adam.vol said:
That happened as you said last year between Texas and Bama, but it happened with Bama getting ranked ahead of Tennessee in 2022 despite us winning head to head and also against a common opponent.
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Texas was ranked ahead of Alabama last year so I don't know what you're talking about. And we lost by 30 points to South Carolina. Blowout losses have a way of damaging your resume so much that head to head losses it's luster. If we don't lose to South Carolina in a blowout and Hendon doesn't get hurt we would have stayed ahead of Alabama. The committee rightfully ranked us below them. They were the better team in 2022 despite our narrow victory over them at home.
 
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I’ll never pull for Bama. That’s just the way I was raised.

I also don’t like LSU, especially Brian Kelly.

We just need to win out, and everything takes care of itself. That way we take the committee out of the picture.
 
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Listening to Pate today. He and the rest of the sports media are ready to rank Bama ahead of TN if both teams end the season with a 10-2 record. Better to root against bama this Saturday and hope that they will be eliminated from the playoffs this season.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Then say this. If your only argument is I'm a crazy fan who isn't thinking logically then cool we can end the conversation right there. Just don't tell me it's better for Tennessee's playoff chances if Alabama loses to LSU.
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I see your point about sometimes in very very small instances to root for bama. But the absolute only way I root ever for the tide is if it’s a GUARANTEE game when if they win it puts the vols in the sec championship or playoffs now. I’m not ready to say that rooting for bama would put the vols in either one. Maybe if we lose to Georgia or some other crazy things happen I can see it but until it’s absolutely necessary me personally IMO will not root for the gumps
 
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It seems we’re in the undesirable position that whoever wins the Bama/LSU will have a playoff advantage over us.

So, we just have to win out.
 
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jaydhugs said:
Tony Basillo made an interesting point about wanting Bama to lose to LSU.
If you have cynical view regarding the preferential treatment Bama gets and the benefits of doubt they have received in the past, you want Bama to lose.

A 10-2 Bama with a win AT LSU, AT NIGHT likely has a more impressive resume than a (hypothetical) 10-2 Tennessee, even with the head to head. We have already seen how one playoff committee uses head-to-head match-ups to pick teams; see 2022. The Bama brand still has a national media draw—more so than Tennessee, even though we are moving into the forefront—they would get in over us.

Worth a watc.

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You lost me at Bastupido. Childish clown.
 
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