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#77
pantone151 said:
Have there been any succesful minority coaches in cfb?(And don't give me the "no, because they haven't been given the chance). I don't know of any off the top of my head, and can't do the research right now. The only minority coaches I can think of are; gill, shannon and willingham. Gill and shannon have had moderate success, not exaclty setting the woods on fire. Willingham... I'll leave that one alone
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I heard that Eddie Robinson guy was decent.
 
#78
#78
hatvol96 said:
I find threads like these to be invaluable. The mouthbreathers, bigots, and morons are easy to identify, thus providing me with essential research in the compiliation of my ignore list.
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I take offense with that one seeing as my sinuses give me no choice.
 
#79
#79
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well i guess my own personal expierence doesnt really matter, im just stating the point from what ive seen and gone through, but thats also my point of view, different people have different points of view, it happens. Since my view is different then yours that makes me ignorant, good call Dumb @$$ (i can insult as well)
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I can make the assumption without much hesitation that your "struggles" thus far in life are not the fault of any minorities.
 
#80
#80
KB5252 said:
I think their beef has more to do with the fact that there were two possibly three really good candidates for head coaching positions and none of them were taken. Those two were as good if not better than most others who landed good jobs at BCS programs.
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Turner Gill should have been hired over Chizik but there is no black HC candidate that would have been a better fit for UT than Kiffin is. Dabo Swinney is also the right choice for Clemson. I was surprised to see Dan Mullen get a HC job before Charlie Strong, though.
 
#83
#83
Jaytrain5 said:
I can't stop chuckling about this comment.
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The fist thing I thought about when I saw that comment was: Nolan Richardson can't find a job in college basketball, but Cliff Ellis never stays unemployed long.
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#84
#84
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well i guess my own personal expierence doesnt really matter, im just stating the point from what ive seen and gone through, but thats also my point of view, different people have different points of view, it happens. Since my view is different then yours that makes me ignorant, good call Dumb @$$ (i can insult as well)
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well said. you obviously have a world of experience in the matter.
 
#85
#85
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, God forbid anyone interject reality into this debate. Precluding the truth is an interesting debate topic.
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So what you're telling me is that no minority coach has been succesful because they haven't been given a chance?
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#86
#86
awebb7 said:
I can make the assumption without much hesitation that your "struggles" thus far in life are not the fault of any minorities.
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well if that was a weak attempt to insult my intellegence, i graduated with a 3.7 and have a 4.0 in grad school. However what i was refering to was the fact that my parents werent "typical whitey" as in had tons of money, and i went off to college and basically supported myself. But thanks for playing
 
#87
#87
For all the people trying to make the black people dominate football argument, think about it for a minute. Most coaches are probably what, at least late 30's early 40's? So there is a time lag in when a player quits football and works their way up to a HC position at a high profile institution. Therefore, for that argument to apply black people would have to be dominating football since probably the early 80's. Well at that time I believe there were still plenty of white people playing the game. So maybe in the future we will see more and more black coaches. Of course it could simply be due to the fact that exponentially more white people get into coaching and therefore make up a larger percentage.
 
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#88
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
this is something else we can point the finger at the arabs. If it wasnt for the arab slave traders, there would be a good chance that european slavery wouldnt have really taken off, well you know the rest of the story...
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The African people themselves were the biggest propogators of the slave trade. Western African countries, especially. The slave trade was not limited to the white man.
 
#89
#89
Lexvol said:
That is some pretty strong work right there!
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The nightly decision between drinking at the bar or at a friends house has been the downfall of many upstanding brilliant and hardworking southern males.
 
#90
#90
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well if that was a weak attempt to insult my intellegence, i graduated with a 3.7 and have a 4.0 in grad school. However what i was refering to was the fact that my parents werent "typical whitey" as in had tons of money, and i went off to college and basically supported myself. But thanks for playing
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That's weird...that's my story almost verbatim.
 
#91
#91
awebb7 said:
I can make the assumption without much hesitation that your "struggles" thus far in life are not the fault of any minorities.
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Simple rule: If you are a white male living in the South and you do not succeed in life, 95% of the time the reason is obvious. You suck.
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#92
#92
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well if that was a weak attempt to insult my intellegence, i graduated with a 3.7 and have a 4.0 in grad school. However what i was refering to was the fact that my parents werent "typical whitey" as in had tons of money, and i went off to college and basically supported myself. But thanks for playing
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Swing. . . and a miss.
 
#93
#93
GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well i guess my own personal expierence doesnt really matter, im just stating the point from what ive seen and gone through, but thats also my point of view, different people have different points of view, it happens. Since my view is different then yours that makes me ignorant, good call Dumb @$$ (i can insult as well)
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Come on, guys. Keep it friendly. I am just trying to figure out if it is technically namecalling if someone simply quotes what you say and agrees with it.
 
#94
#94
jwells said:
For what it's worth, most of world history is "white history month." MLK day is just as fair as anything else. America has a history of celebrating heroes, and MLK Jr's accomplishments are very impressive.
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If i'm correct MLK just wanted equal pay for equal work . I commend him for this and his peace loving mannerisms. I think MLK day is a very important holiday for everyone.


On the other hand JJ and AS have caused as much hate in this country ( for their financial gain ) than any one else that I can think of.
 
#95
#95
hatvol96 said:
Simple rule: If you are a white male living in the South and you do not succeed in life, 95% of the time the reason is obvious. You suck.
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BUt if your black and in the south and you dont want to suceed you get a government handout
 
#97
#97
Hell, Im white and have student loans out my butt. I am not blaming anyone but myself. My parents never had money to put me through school, so I did it all on my own. I had good grades in HS (3.7) and should have put forth more effort for finances. It has nothing to do with race IMO
 
#99
#99
UtennfaninVa said:
Probably none, but the only progress towards race neutral admissions in university has been the Regents of the University of California v. Bakke case from 1978 that banned the quota system in California. The state of Michigan also had a pretty important decision regarding bonus points for race on admissions for undergrad. If minorities want equality in political and economic areas then how is forcibly admitting students based on race or giving them bonus points in admissions not a racial injustice?
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It's not about race, in general, though. The BCA says minority=black. I don't understand how only one group of minorities are deemed worthy of coaching football. I guess Navy's coach feels pretty left out.

Do some schools not hire minority coaches because they are a minority? Maybe, but I doubt it's many. Most schools just want to win, whether the coach is white, black, asian, latino, etc. Is Turner Gill a good coach? Looks like he may be. Is he more qualified than any other newly-hired coaches in big schools? Sorta-kinda-maybe. His biggest year so far is 7-5. I think Auburn could have done better than either Gill or Chizik. Syracuse just brought in an NFL guy that played at Syracuse.

I don't care what the racial make-up of head coaches is. Just win.
 
#100
#100
rcketop said:
well if you hadnt noticed latly the U.S. has been leading to this for a long time. the tentions are very high between blacks and whites. It is time for the white man to stand up and say no more to this racial behavior the blacks have bestowed apon our great nation. They have opened the door to a big problem by bringing RACE into every aspect of our lives. It needs to stop now and one way to do it by not allowing this minority hiring in college.
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Wow, this post is :crazy:. How dare black people be conscious of racism! I'd say the Jim Crow laws did more to bring race into every aspect of life. Some of those laws are still on the books, too.
 
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