Bennett eliminates Kentucky

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#29
I don't worry about the team, Cal is smart and knows these players better than we do - one thing you can count on is they'll be a competitive bunch. The landscape of college basketball is different this coming year than last, there aren't really great teams this year so it should make for a fun regular season and tournament.
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
Vargas didn't play an important role - he would have if Davis ever got into foul trouble but that didn't happen a lot.
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But when Davis got in trouble Vargas played well. The point is, Noel appears more foul prone than Davis, so who's going to back him up? You had Vargas last year for that occasion, who do you have next year?
 
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vol-un-tear said:
Are there any NBA coaches making what UK is paying Cal? He's got it made now. Isn't he getting about 5 million a year now?
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Phil Jackson was making over 6 million towards the end and some say actually 10. The Cavs offered Izzo 6 million a year to leave Michigan state, and that's Cleveland. If new York wanted calipari ba enough i could see them offering around 8 million/year.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
But when Davis got in trouble Vargas played well. The point is, Noel appears more foul prone than Davis, so who's going to back him up? You had Vargas last year for that occasion, who do you have next year?
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Vargas... Good... What? He was a big body who was good for nothing but maybe a few rebounds and fouls. Cauley may be raw, but he'll be better than Vargas. And Hood's not a bad player. He's just an awful fit for Cal's system and has had some injury problems.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Phil Jackson was making over 6 million towards the end and some say actually 10. The Cavs offered Izzo 6 million a year to leave Michigan state, and that's Cleveland. If new York wanted calipari ba enough i could see them offering around 8 million/year.
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That's just it. No sane NBA team will have enough interest in Cal to pay what it would take. But, we're talking about the Knicks, so you never know.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Vargas... Good... What? He was a big body who was good for nothing but maybe a few rebounds and fouls. Cauley may be raw, but he'll be better than Vargas. And Hood's not a bad player. He's just an awful fit for Cal's system and has had some injury problems.
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You made my point. While Vargas was mainly just a big body, thats something UK doesn't have right now behind their starters. I see Cauley and Noel starting at the 4/5 and Wiltjer the 6th man. So if Noel/Cauley get in foul trouble, who's the big body to sub in? Wiltjers D is horrendous, Vargas was a big body that could atleast play D, that's something right now this UK team lacks.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You made my point. While Vargas was mainly just a big body, thats something UK doesn't have right now behind their starters. I see Cauley and Noel starting at the 4/5 and Wiltjer the 6th man. So if Noel/Cauley get in foul trouble, who's the big body to sub in? Wiltjers D is horrendous, Vargas was a big body that could atleast play D, that's something right now this UK team lacks.
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They'll be good, plus no one in college basketball this year is great so that will mask premier teams' flaws.
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
They'll be good, plus no one in college basketball this year is great so that will mask premier teams' flaws.
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Yea in now way am I saying they're gonna fall off the map or miss the tourney, but I see this being the most unsuccessful of cals UK teams.

Now that is going off this roster, but if it remains unchanged, I think a ranking 10-15 and sweet 16 is about my prediction on the season.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You made my point. While Vargas was mainly just a big body, thats something UK doesn't have right now behind their starters. I see Cauley and Noel starting at the 4/5 and Wiltjer the 6th man. So if Noel/Cauley get in foul trouble, who's the big body to sub in? Wiltjers D is horrendous, Vargas was a big body that could atleast play D, that's something right now this UK team lacks.
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Wiltjer will start, unless they land Amile Jefferson. A front line of Cauley and Noel would be a little bit heavy on defense and a bit too light on offense. Wiltjer's D is horrendus, but apparently Cauley's O is even worse at this point. He'll take a few years, although his ceiling is enormous.

And Vargas wasn't good on defense, either. He was just... Big. He's one of the most overrated recruits I've seen in a while. Borderline 5* going to Florida, then a high 4* JUCO going to Kentucky. What were all of those scouts thinking?
 
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GatorsGators said:
Wiltjer will start, unless they land Amile Jefferson. A front line of Cauley and Noel would be a little bit heavy on defense and a bit too light on offense. Wiltjer's D is horrendus, but apparently Cauley's O is even worse at this point. He'll take a few years, although his ceiling is enormous.

And Vargas wasn't good on defense, either. He was just... Big. He's one of the most overrated recruits I've seen in a while. Borderline 5* going to Florida, then a high 4* JUCO going to Kentucky. What were all of those scouts thinking?
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If Wiltjer starts and plays big minutes you can bet opposing bugs are going to have a field day.

My point still remains they are thin. You're saying Cauley as the 6th man, last year they had miller, no comparison. Last year you also had Wiltjer who saw minutes and could bring a spark, who does that next year? Beckham or Hood?

They have the bodies sure, but the talent level is dropping significantly 1-5, and then drops again 6-8. One injury, or one guy making foul trouble a regularity and they're very vulnerable.

At this point I'd take Florida over UK, and would put serious consideration in UT over UK.
 
#46
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I'd take our roster over UK's at this point as well (although I'm biased as hell). But, it's not like Cal's ever been big on depth. If they are somehow unable to land any more players in the late signing period, then I'll agree that they're in trouble. They'll probably add a few more guys, though, like Julius Mays. Add in Mays and one more solid bench player, and there you go, Top 10 team.

But, no offense, Tennessee's perimeter play needs significant improvement before they will be able to compete with Kentucky (in the standings, not head-to-head).
 
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GatorsGators said:
I'd take our roster over UK's at this point as well (although I'm biased as hell). But, it's not like Cal's ever been big on depth. If they are somehow unable to land any more players in the late signing period, then I'll agree that they're in trouble. They'll probably add a few more guys, though, like Julius Mays. Add in Mays and one more solid bench player, and there you go, Top 10 team.

But, no offense, Tennessee's perimeter play needs significant improvement before they will be able to compete with Kentucky (in the standings, not head-to-head).
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And like I've said all along, I'm going off a current roster. If they add another player or 2 then they are fine, but like I've said I'm going off current roster.

I was talking head to head not standings or rankings. With their current roster, I like our chances slowing it down and pounding them inside. Wiltjer verse stokes/maymon on the blocks makes me drool.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If Wiltjer starts and plays big minutes you can bet opposing bugs are going to have a field day.

My point still remains they are thin. You're saying Cauley as the 6th man, last year they had miller, no comparison. Last year you also had Wiltjer who saw minutes and could bring a spark, who does that next year? Beckham or Hood?

They have the bodies sure, but the talent level is dropping significantly 1-5, and then drops again 6-8. One injury, or one guy making foul trouble a regularity and they're very vulnerable.

At this point I'd take Florida over UK, and would put serious consideration in UT over UK.
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I had to fight off an invasion of ants a few nights ago, so this one made me laugh.
 
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And, even if UT turns out to be better than UK next year, UT will still struggle in the head-to-head games. Just the way it is. I'll be happy to get one win.
 
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