Bennett eliminates Kentucky

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UK is loaded going into the 2013 class. They'll be fine, not terribly worried.

That said, those who say "Cal Cheats," if he cheats, why did he miss out on the big recruits over the last few weeks?
 
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Brian McCat said:
UK is loaded going into the 2013 class. They'll be fine, not terribly worried.

That said, those who say "Cal Cheats," if he cheats, why did he miss out on the big recruits over the last few weeks?
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Who do they have committed for 2013?

I count 1, a 4* #91 overall player in the country, in Derek Willis. Am I missing something?
 
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Brian McCat said:
UK is loaded going into the 2013 class. They'll be fine, not terribly worried.

That said, those who say "Cal Cheats," if he cheats, why did he miss out on the big recruits over the last few weeks?
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Cheating doesn't imply 100% success. It just tips the scales in your favor.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Who do they have committed for 2013?

I count 1, a 4* #91 overall player in the country, in Derek Willis. Am I missing something?
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If you know anything about recruiting, which you claim you do, then you should see the writing on the wall concerning how things are lining up for the 13' class.

Also, it's weird with Willis. Rivals has him at 26, Scout has him at 91. I normally lean more toward Scout for hoops and Rivals for football, but still that is an extremely large discrepancy.

That being said, he will still end up an afterthought in this class, I believe.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
If you know anything about recruiting, which you claim you do, then you should see the writing on the wall concerning how things are lining up for the 13' class.

Also, it's weird with Willis. Rivals has him at 26, Scout has him at 91. I normally lean more toward Scout for hoops and Rivals for football, but still that is an extremely large discrepancy.

That being said, he will still end up an afterthought in this class, I believe.
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Very true they're in on a number of highly rated guys, but the OP was making it sound as if the class already had some high level committs. Lots can happen that can change the landscape of recruiting, and can happen fast.

I'm sure calipari will have another good class, but as I touched on earlier he needs to look at things a bit differently. Say r losses hood, Wiltjer, harrow, Noel, poythress and goodwin( don't say it's not possible, it is) then you're right back at square one. Bringing in all freshman with no proven upperclassmen on the team. And when trying to fill out a roster, like he's doing now, you'll have a hard time convincing those second tier guys to come to yor school. Calipari is arguably the best recruiter, I'm sure he'll get it don't, but I don't count a recruiting class as "in the bag" until it actually happens.

A month ago UK fans swore they were gonna get ATLEAST one of Jefferson, oriakhi and Bennett yet missed on all 3. You just never know with the recruitment of 17 year old kids.
 
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Brian McCat said:
UK is loaded going into the 2013 class. They'll be fine, not terribly worried.

That said, those who say "Cal Cheats," if he cheats, why did he miss out on the big recruits over the last few weeks?
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Why open the checkbook for a guy who's going to play limited minutes for just one season? :birgits_giggle:
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Very true they're in on a number of highly rated guys, but the OP was making it sound as if the class already had some high level committs. Lots can happen that can change the landscape of recruiting, and can happen fast.

I'm sure calipari will have another good class, but as I touched on earlier he needs to look at things a bit differently. Say r losses hood, Wiltjer, harrow, Noel, poythress and goodwin( don't say it's not possible, it is) then you're right back at square one. Bringing in all freshman with no proven upperclassmen on the team. And when trying to fill out a roster, like he's doing now, you'll have a hard time convincing those second tier guys to come to yor school. Calipari is arguably the best recruiter, I'm sure he'll get it don't, but I don't count a recruiting class as "in the bag" until it actually happens.

A month ago UK fans swore they were gonna get ATLEAST one of Jefferson, oriakhi and Bennett yet missed on all 3. You just never know with the recruitment of 17 year old kids.
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So far at Kentucky, Cal has developed an "every other year" monster class. All the classes have been the #1 class, but the quantity of some classes are better than others.

2009 class- Elite
2010 class- #1 but probably overachieved
2011 class- Elite
2012 class- #1/2, but average compared to previous classes
2013 class- most likely Elite

The 2011 title could not have happened without holders from the 10 class, being Lamb and Jones. It is plausible to think that the same thing could happen in 2013. If you possibly have a few stay from the 12 class, then add it to another elite class in 13, then once again you have a 7-8 deep roster with some experience ready to make a run.

Just an observation.

I think it is futile to try and predict the future decisions of high school kids, however the law of averages and historical data imply that UK (or should I say Cal) will land that type of class.
 
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Cal won't win any more titles unless players stay an extra year, and that won't happen every year. The next time UK will have experienced players is probably going to be in 2 years. Hopefully in that time we succeed and manage to at least keep a few players.
 
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LittleCat said:
The only reason we won it last ear was because lamb,jones decided to stay. We also had miller. I don't see people staying next year... Maybe the year after. It's crazy hard to win the title with all these freshmen.
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It's less likely they win a championship with ALL freshman but it's not like it can't happen.
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
It's less likely they win a championship with ALL freshman but it's not like it can't happen.
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I think it's possible. I completely support the whole one and done style and think it's obviously working in Kentucky. But if Cal can't get a few to stay over a 1-2 year period we won't win any titles.
 
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Roscoe Smith, a freshman starter of UCONNs natl champ team, just transferred to UNLV... WHAT is going on out there in the desert?!? I wanna be on those recruiting trips. no, seriously, take my money, I wanna go.
 
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derekdoolander said:
Roscoe Smith, a freshman starter of UCONNs natl champ team, just transferred to UNLV... WHAT is going on out there in the desert?!? I wanna be on those recruiting trips. no, seriously, take my money, I wanna go.
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Birch, Bennett, and now Smith...

Damontre Harris committed to Florida today. Great pickup. :good!:
 
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derekdoolander said:
Roscoe Smith, a freshman starter of UCONNs natl champ team, just transferred to UNLV... WHAT is going on out there in the desert?!? I wanna be on those recruiting trips. no, seriously, take my money, I wanna go.
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They are giving free side-trips to their satellite campus at the Wild Horse Adult Resort and Spa.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Birch, Bennett, and now Smith...

Damontre Harris committed to Florida today. Great pickup. :good!:
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Both smith and Harris will be sitting out a year. I'm sure smith will try for a waiver, but very unlikely hell get it. If he were eligible immediately though UNLV would have a very impressive roster, and 2012 class.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Both smith and Harris will be sitting out a year. I'm sure smith will try for a waiver, but very unlikely hell get it. If he were eligible immediately though UNLV would have a very impressive roster, and 2012 class.
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I know that about Harris, but I thought Smith would be eligible to play next year due to UConn's postseason ban.
 
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GatorsGators said:
I know that about Harris, but I thought Smith would be eligible to play next year due to UConn's postseason ban.
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No they granted it for oriakhi, because he is a senior they said. Andy Katz reported that smith most likely would not receive the same grant. Usually if the NCAA is going to grant everyone that waiver they make it known, much like with USC when they had their postseason ban.
 
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Devonta Pollard committed to 'Bama tonight. They'll definitely be a tournament team next year with this addition.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Devonta Pollard committed to 'Bama tonight. They'll definitely be a tournament team next year with this addition.
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A nice pickup for grant, they definitely should be competing for a first round bye. From a quick glance I'm thinking the SEC gets in 6 teams, that'd be a nice change from years past.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
A nice pickup for grant, they definitely should be competing for a first round bye. From a quick glance I'm thinking the SEC gets in 6 teams, that'd be a nice change from years past.
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I agree with the 6. I'd say Florida, UK, Tennessee, Missouri, Alabama, and one of either Arkansas or Ole Miss. Then I think Georgia and Vandy will be low-level NIT teams.
 
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GatorsGators said:
I agree with the 6. I'd say Florida, UK, Tennessee, Missouri, Alabama, and one of either Arkansas or Ole Miss. Then I think Georgia and Vandy will be low-level NIT teams.
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Those were the teams I was thinking of as well, in no particular order.

If stallings gets vandy to a NIT though I'll be impressed.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Those were the teams I was thinking of as well, in no particular order.

If stallings gets vandy to a NIT though I'll be impressed.
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Eh he's a good coach. Their backcourt should be impressive athletically with Johnson and Parker. Their frontcourt doesn't appear to be too strong, but I just can't imagine Stallings letting the program fall too far back.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Eh he's a good coach. Their backcourt should be impressive athletically with Johnson and Parker. Their frontcourt doesn't appear to be too strong, but I just can't imagine Stallings letting the program fall too far back.
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I don't see Stallings as a good coach, by national standards, anyway. SEC, yeah, he's one of the better coaches. That said, he had arguably his best talent during his time at Vandy, was one of two teams that beat UK, but couldn't crack the Sweet 16 this year. I don't see it.
 
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