Biden gonna tax us to death

[NorthDallas40]

Bitch away, it’s a free country.

They’re working on that too.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Nice try. If employees want to be valued they need to exhibit value. I didn’t get an engineering degree to help mankind, hell I work in weapons systems. I got one because I’m good at math and physics and the skills are valuable. Luckily I like what I do also not that’s more due to my product field that my degree choice. I’d hate working on stupid smart phones.

Fact is we need walmart employees. They do have value.

 

[hog88]

Because we don't have the stomach to watch 15% of Americans become homeless. Crime would skyrocket, economic crash etc.

Well that is worse than any argument Luther has ever given. Congrats.

So you are claiming that 15% of states would allow their constituents to become homeless and criminals or 15% of our population nationwide would become homeless criminals if states controlled all assistance and set their own MW?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Fact is we need walmart employees. They do have value.

Apparently that value is $10.83 an hour. Next “point”?

 

[hog88]

I don't generally go to wal mart. But Americans love cheap crap.

And you want to make their crap more expensive.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Saying 15% is completely ridiculous. Min wage protection makes much more sense at a state level. Makes none on a fed level

Roughly 60 million americans rely on welfare to survive.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Apparently that value is $10.83 an hour. Next “point”?

Because a company is able to take advantage of people does not mean that it should.

 

[hog88]

Roughly 60 million americans rely on welfare to survive.

And why is that? Could it be that welfare is designed to keep people dependent?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

And you want to make their crap more expensive.

I am saying that I am paying the for that cheap crap despite not every entering their doors.

 

[hog88]

I am saying that I am paying the for that cheap crap despite not every entering their doors.

Then you should support doing away with federal assistance.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

And why is that? Could it be that welfare is designed to keep people dependent?

Or the stupidly low wages earned by the bottom tier of American workers. Countries around the world have figured out how to combat this problem while balancing quality of life issues. Americans have been brainwashed into thinking the free market solves all problems. It does not.

 

[utvolpj]

Roughly 60 million americans rely on welfare to survive.

Would all 60mil perish if welfare went away tomorrow?

What does that have to do with a state setting min wage over the fed govt?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Then you should support doing away with federal assistance.

I don't support people working a full time job while living under the poverty level. If you work full time you should be above the poverty line... period.

And fwiw, I do support a complete reworking of public assistance. People who are unemployed or underemployed should provide a service for their welfare dollars. It should not be simply given.

 

[Ttucke11]

Would all 60mil perish if welfare went away tomorrow?

What does that have to do with a state setting min wage over the fed govt?

Subtract the children and legitimately disabled and I could care less. Would make for a lot better country.

 

[VolStrom]

Or the stupidly low wages earned by the bottom tier of American workers. Countries around the world have figured out how to combat this problem while balancing quality of life issues. Americans have been brainwashed into thinking the free market solves all problems. It does not.

Yeah and the middle class worker in the liberal European utopias pay 50% or more of their wages in taxes.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Because a company is able to take advantage of people does not mean that it should.

That’s your assertion anyway.

 

[hog88]

Or the stupidly low wages earned by the bottom tier of American workers. Countries around the world have figured out how to combat this problem while balancing quality of life issues. Americans have been brainwashed into thinking the free market solves all problems. It does not.

You are simply naive. There are $20+ per hour jobs open all over this country. Hell even the average wage at walmart is right at $15hr.

 

[RavinDave]

Just barely.

And not for long, the way things are going.

 

[utvolpj]

I don't support people working a full time job while living under the poverty level. If you work full time you should be above the poverty line... period.

And fwiw, I do support a complete reworking of public assistance. People who are unemployed or underemployed should provide a service for their welfare dollars. It should not be simply given.

The jobs to accomplish that are out there. They may not want to do them but they do exist and there are many available

 

[RavinDave]

They’re working on that too.

I thought about qualifying that comment in the same post but I knew you guys would help me with it.

 

[hog88]

I don't support people working a full time job while living under the poverty level. If you work full time you should be above the poverty line... period.

And fwiw, I do support a complete reworking of public assistance. People who are unemployed or underemployed should provide a service for their welfare dollars. It should not be simply given.

When does the responsibility ever fall on the individual to find higher paying employment?

 

[VolStrom]

You are simply naive. There are $20+ per hour jobs open all over this country. Hell even the average wage at walmart is right at $15hr.

Biden is working of this by letting every Jose and Maria from South America into the country to counter those oppressive wages his buddies are having to pay.

 

[NorthDallas40]

When does the responsibility ever fall on the individual to find higher paying employment?

Well... it does today. You and I know that and that’s why we make what we do.

 

[Ttucke11]

The factory up the road from me is starting at $17.50 an hour, no experience, benefits, air conditioned, etc and can't even get anyone to apply.

 

[508mikey]

The jobs to accomplish that are out there. They may not want to do them but they do exist and there are many available

This is why Unemployment Offices should require them to be looking for a job and notified by any employer if they turn the job down, to cease thier benefits -- to many enjoying the free bonus courtesy of the Government