Big10 Rumor: adding 4 including Clemson and FSU

#51
#51
FSU and Clemson can stay in the ACC, go 10-2 / 11-1, and share $100M or come to the SEC, go 8-3 or so and share $1B. Which would they (you) choose?
 
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The Original Fade said:
Let’s just do away with conferences altogether. There is no conference pride anymore and no one really cares about being conference champs. Let every team schedule whoever they want for a 10 game regular season then let a committee select 16 teams for a playoff based on record and strength of whoever was on your schedule.
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It has become a joke. I wish we could go back 30 thirty years and stop this from ever happening. Conference pride means nothing when you keep adding/subtracting teams every few years. SEC included
 
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And just for TV share, I'd add some school up the Atlantic coast to get the Washington, Baltimore, Philly market. Don't know who that would be though. I realize this is all about football, but what institutuions bring the whole package - FB, Men and Women BBall, Softball, Baseball - anything to put eyes on the conference?
 
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Unless the ACC completely dissolves, any school that leaves forfeits their TV revenue to the ACC, regardless of what conference they're in, until 2036. ====2036==== That's still 13 years and that's a boatload of money to give up to jump conferences.

OK then, just "color" the money differently. Say "Big State University" comes to the SEC. The agreement says gets nothing from the conference TV pkg until 2036, BUT the conference grants them a stipend = to that amount.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Sadly, this...
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is the current standpoint of culture.

Not yet mentioned is that colleges as institutions are facing a significant demographic and market crunch. To the degree that sports revenues contribute to the bottom line (including attracting students, and creating the popular support needed to keep state legislators generous with state funding).

A 4-year degree costs more than ever, far outpacing inflation over the past 40 years, and few degrees will get you a job that pays enough to payoff your education loan while starting an actual life.

On top of that, the perceived value of a college education is diminishing for those not pursuing a profession requiring a Masters or Doctorate. Also, the massive influx of latin American peoples is not providing a pool of potential students. They scoff at the idea of leaving good paying jobs to pay to go to college in order to qualify for a lesser paying job. They know they can start and sustain a family doing skilled manual labor.
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I agree with you, but Miami is just a terrible fit. Their administration and academia are much more aligned with the small private schools of the ACC, Big 12 and maybe the B1G than the SEC. They don’t sellout games unless it’s FSU or Florida, their fan base is garbage, I just don’t see it and honestly don’t want it. They would be perfect for the Big 12 IMO.
 
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Just another step towards a 4 super conference setup.
Ideally these would be realigned based on geography, but we can stay moving down the path with the current conferences being more national.
There would be 4 additional 'junior' or mid-major conferences that mirror the 4 supers...that would give every Division 1 team a conference.
Each conference would have a champion and then an 8 team (4 supers, 4 mids) playoff for the Natty.
 
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Hearing that a story is out there that says ACC can vote to dissolve itself with the votes of 8 members, making the whole Grant of Rights null and void. I don’t have source, but supposedly some lawyer has found this in their by-laws.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Hearing that a story is out there that says ACC can vote to dissolve itself with the votes of 8 members, making the whole Grant of Rights null and void. I don’t have source, but supposedly some lawyer has found this in their by-laws.
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Who are the 8 teams who are going to vote for that?
 
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MHS Rebel said:
Why does the sec need more teams, especially in football and baseball. Seems we are kings

Because fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.
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Got it, what was I thinking...
We should bring all 131+ teams into the SEC.
Play a rotating schedule, you could play each team every 10 years. Whoever scores the most points in a season is crowned SEC / National Champions.
 
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Snakebrown Quote: Actually, FSU has lobbied behind the scenes for years to join the SEC. Their TV market brings nothing to the table that the SEC doesn't already have. Adding UNC (Charolette metro) and VT (big in the DC market) are worth more to the conference and don't upset the balance...


As I surmised earlier this year, The next SEC expansion should be FSU & Clemson. I doubt the Sec will allow the BIG 10 to incorporate them.
 
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vols 30 said:
It has become a joke. I wish we could go back 30 thirty years and stop this from ever happening. Conference pride means nothing when you keep adding/subtracting teams every few years. SEC included
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It’s almost like teams themselves are in the transfer portal. No tradition, no pride, no emotional investment in anything anymore.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Hearing that a story is out there that says ACC can vote to dissolve itself with the votes of 8 members, making the whole Grant of Rights null and void. I don’t have source, but supposedly some lawyer has found this in their by-laws.
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That’s true. You just need the teams. If one of these teams finds the loophole that’s all it will take. No one wants to get left behind. So if UNC goes to the B1G, NC State will lobby hard for the SEC or Big 12. Same with UVA and Virginia Tech. This is a matter of when, not if this happens. The only thing that can save the ACC is Notre Dame.
 
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MHS Rebel said:
Why does the sec need more teams, especially in football and baseball. Seems we are kings

Because fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.
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I think it is a good question. Are we getting stronger adding these other teams or losing our traditions and rivalries that made SEC football special? It may mean a bigger tv contract now but cut into more pieces. And media is evolving quickly and what looks good now might not look so good in a few years. Just ask the ACC teams that agrees to their contract through 2036.
The future is uncertain but the end is always near.
Jim Morrison
 
#70
#70
The Big 10 is ruining college football. They can't beat the SEC, so they try and tear apart other conferences and are taking teams that have no regionality compared to their current teams.
 
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Wonder which teams the SEC will attempt to bring into the SEC? I'd like to see North Carolina and, dare I say, Notre Dame!
 
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