Big10 Rumor: adding 4 including Clemson and FSU

#81
#81
FSU playing in snow in november...Yeah thats worth watching...I hope we go after UNC and Virginia...Both are perfect fits in the SEC...Really gives a boost to the conference in basketball for sure...I can hear Kentucky fans screaming already lol
 
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We should be rooting for Clemson to exit the ACC. They would no longer have a cakewalk schedule and be a 8-4,9-3 team in the B1G 10. it would kill their recruiting and pave the way to take back our spot they stole from us
 
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Frank Duncan said:
Don't see Miami chomping at the bit to join the SEC either.
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With the money they would make?!?...You bet your sweet begonias they would!...Regardless of fan support Miami is a national brand and they draw crowds wherever they play...Except of course at home lol...They wold draw a lot more fans joining the SEC because there are a lot of SEC fans that live down here.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
The Big 10 is ruining college football. They can't beat the SEC, so they try and tear apart other conferences and are taking teams that have no regionality compared to their current teams.
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Totally agree !!!
Sitting in B1G country and listening to all the pundits talk football, it comes down to the same three teams it was last season - Oh St, Penn St, and Michigan
All of them in the East Division and none of them are being hailed as "Definite Natty Material" bu anyone around here.
The closest one is Michigan and everyone agrees they would need some help and favorable matchup in the CFP.
 
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Orange931 said:
Because they have bigger fanbases and tv ratings. South Carolina is a very low populated state and we already have the Gamecocks.
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I see what you’re saying, but I think the brand has become just as important as tv market. I don’t think it’s the same as it was when we added aTm and Mizzou. At the same time you can’t discount the idea of adding the North Carolina and Virginia schools.
 
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Oklahoma and Texas had to pay roughly an extra 50 million each to leave 1 year early. The ACC and Big 12 basically have the same GOR. Leaving 12 years early? $$$$$

The juice ain't worth the squeeze for anyone involved. IMO, this is more sabre rattling to get unequal revenue sharing in the ACC until leaving is financially feasible.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Totally agree !!!
Sitting in B1G country and listening to all the pundits talk football, it comes down to the same three teams it was last season - Oh St, Penn St, and Michigan
All of them in the East Division and none of them are being hailed as "Definite Natty Material" bu anyone around here.
The closest one is Michigan and everyone agrees they would need some help and favorable matchup in the CFP.
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USC will be there soon.
 
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VolDaddy61 said:
I'd offer UNC and Miami/FSU a seat at the table now.
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I doubt if Miami would be acceptable to the Presidents of current and incoming SEC member institutions. The 16 2024 SEC members are rated as "Doctoral University, Very High Research Activity". It is my understanding that Miami is rated the next rung down. This kind of stuff matters to Uni Presidents. Miami will likely need to amp up its research to be seriously considered.
 
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NV Vol said:
I doubt if Miami would be acceptable to the Presidents of current and incoming SEC member institutions. The 16 2024 SEC members are rated as "Doctoral University, Very High Research Activity". It is my understanding that Miami is rated the next rung down. This kind of stuff matters to Uni Presidents. Miami will likely need to amp up its research to be seriously considered.
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Wait a second… Miami was good enough to be considered by ACC Presidents at Duke, Wake, GT, UVA, BC, UNC and others, but not by the SEC? Miami is a pretty highly rated institution.
 
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NV Vol said:
I doubt if Miami would be acceptable to the Presidents of current and incoming SEC member institutions. The 16 2024 SEC members are rated as "Doctoral University, Very High Research Activity". It is my understanding that Miami is rated the next rung down. This kind of stuff matters to Uni Presidents. Miami will likely need to amp up its research to be seriously considered.
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Miami is now an AAU University like Notre Dame and almost all the B1G schools.

Perhaps you should take a second look at the academic creds of the AAU schools vs most SEC schools.
 
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As Bobby Bowden said when the SEC was first expanding,"Why should we go to a conference where we woul probably go 8-4 or 7-5,or 9-3,when we could be in the ACC and go 11-1.0r 10-2 at worst and play for championships ?"
 
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What some people are missing is both the ACC and SEC contracts are with ESPN. At any point ESPN can get involved and allow the move while keeping ACC schools left whole but going from ACC to Big10 involves another network other than ESPN so there is nothing in that move for ESPN to get involved in.

ESPN wants to take all sports to streaming and walk away from cable companies and to do that they must have valuable content that people will pay for separately.
 
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No matter how many schools join the conference, they will insist on keeping the name, “Big Ten.” “The brand is too strong.”
🤔
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
What some people are missing is both the ACC and SEC contracts are with ESPN. At any point ESPN can get involved and allow the move while keeping ACC schools left whole but going from ACC to Big10 involves another network other than ESPN so there is nothing in that move for ESPN to get involved in.

ESPN wants to take all sports to streaming and walk away from cable companies and to do that they must have valuable content that people will pay for separately.
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I'm not following you. The Grant of Rights is a contract each ACC school signed with the ACC conference. While it involves media money, ESPN isn't involved in that contract and can't "allow" a school to break a contract with another party.

ESPN is not involved and isn't going to help.
 
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NV Vol said:
I doubt if Miami would be acceptable to the Presidents of current and incoming SEC member institutions. The 16 2024 SEC members are rated as "Doctoral University, Very High Research Activity". It is my understanding that Miami is rated the next rung down. This kind of stuff matters to Uni Presidents. Miami will likely need to amp up its research to be seriously considered.
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Money is the only thing that matters.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm not following you. The Grant of Rights is a contract each ACC school signed with the ACC conference. While it involves media money, ESPN isn't involved in that contract and can't "allow" a school to break a contract with another party.

ESPN is not involved and isn't going to help.
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BUT ESPN can make it worth it for the ACC to let them go by renegotiating their contract so it’s in everyone’s best interest.

All of this is about the love of money.
 
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