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as someone that lives in Charlotte, a city that actually has a good history of supporting the NBA with the Hornets, i can tell you that this city has had lukewarm, at best, feelings about the bobcats and the NBA today. Memphis probably does a pretty good job of supporting the Griz, and Atlanta...eh...i think ATL is a terrible sports town, but that's jmo.

so, in short, i agree w/you...
Didnt the Hornets move because the support wasnt that good.
 
Are there ANY good sports cities in the south, though? The people who grew up down here care mostly about college football, with the passion for everything else lagging far behind, and the transplants (75% of the people around here) still root for the teams they grew up with.

Atlanta's definitely not a very good sports city, but it's not just Atlanta. It's the whole region.
that's a fair statement....living in CLT, i can definitely attest to the fact that though we have the Panthers and Bobcats, there are definitely more people in this city that root for other professional teams than the two located here. it's getting better, but primarily because this is a smaller market and there is a "chip on shoulder" mentality to alot of the home team fans here....
 
Didnt the Hornets move because the support wasnt that good.
yes, but that was in direct relation to the ownership group led by George Shin, rather than lack of support for the team or sport in general.

by the time the end came the relationship between shin and the Charlotte community was already lost.
 
that's a fair statement....living in CLT, i can definitely attest to the fact that though we have the Panthers and Bobcats, there are definitely more people in this city that root for other professional teams than the two located here. it's getting better, but primarily because this is a smaller market and there is a "chip on shoulder" mentality to alot of the home team fans here....

I'd say the Panthers are far and away the most popular sports team in and around Charlotte.
 
I'd say the Panthers are far and away the most popular sports team in and around Charlotte.
they are, but you'd be surprised at how many transplants are here that could care less about the panthers, in fact, hate the panthers. there are more people here from Western PA, Upstate NY, NYNY, and Ohio than there are people born and raised in Charlotte.

there are 4 Steeler bars, 2 Browns bars, 2 Bills bars, 2 Giants bars etc, etc, etc.......it's really ridiculous.

but the panthers being somewhat good over the past 3 years or so has helped build on the fanbase here. if the Bobcats did the same, soon, it will happen for them as welll.

this is a very fickle sports town.
 
I really don't feel like googling stats. But please. You cannot be serious about denying the overall dramatic ratings slide for the nba since the milennium change. You just can't be.
Show me a major sport that hasn't experienced a ratings decline in the last decade.
 
they are, but you'd be surprised at how many transplants are here that could care less about the panthers, in fact, hate the panthers. there are more people here from Western PA, Upstate NY, NYNY, and Ohio than there are people born and raised in Charlotte.

there are 4 Steeler bars, 2 Browns bars, 2 Bills bars, 2 Giants bars etc, etc, etc.......it's really ridiculous.

but the panthers being somewhat good over the past 3 years or so has helped build on the fanbase here. if the Bobcats did the same, soon, it will happen for them as welll.

this is a very fickle sports town.

It's a very fickle town in general. They dersire so badly to be considered along the lines of even Nashville, much less Atlanta, that they will latch on to any hint of success. Sports or otherwise.
 
The MLB also has ratings slides. I'm in the TV industry, and basically, all network ratings have been sliding over the last decade due to more choices on cable and satellite, as well as the huge move to the internet. The NBA is in a little bit of a transitional phase, but I live 2 hours north of Phoenix, and the NBA is huge huge huge.
Don't trouble people with facts. It gets in the way of their asinine stereotypes.
 
I'm still wondering how many NBA players sell drugs.

And if you change it to "drug users", then you've also lost faith in a significant minority (at least) of any American population.
 
I'm saying the kids who are primarily causing trouble, atleast here in Nashville are the young black and hispanic kids. Not to say that white kids don't, but the blacks and hispanics primarily commit the crimes and they all wear basketball jerseys and play basketball. Basketball is the cheapest sport to play next to soccer, and these kids can't afford much so they eat sleep and drink basketball and NBA.
I get it. We can eliminate crime in Nashville by banning basketball.
 
It's a very fickle town in general. They dersire so badly to be considered along the lines of even Nashville, much less Atlanta, that they will latch on to any hint of success. Sports or otherwise.
trust me, nashville is not even on the radar screen when charlotte begins comparing itself to other metro areas.
 
...because obviously criminal behavior is a product of watching the NBA and not the environment in which a child is raised.
You didn't know that? Most murders in the metro Nashville area have been tied to someone watching a Clippers-Rockets game in December.
 

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