Black Coaches (split)

[Rickyvol77]

LOL You... talking about moving goalposts.

That's funny right there.

Notice he didn't actually provide you with any real world examples

 

[C-south]

Two things. One, you've moved the goal posts - either be honest in the discussion or admit you're wrong. Two, you clearly don't understand what 'systemic" racism refers to. Laws aren't required for inequality to occur along racial lines. You conflating bad service at a restaurant with mountains of objective evidence of widespread inequality really tells every rational person here just how profoundy ignorant you are on the subject.

Sadly, these distinctions can be explained to you but not understood for you.

And you still don’t provide anything for context. If there’s “systematic racism” what is it? Is it more black people being arrested in predominantly black communities? Do you believe black people aren’t making any bad decisions that adversely affects their lives?

 

[Volgolfer1618]

Two things. One, you've moved the goal posts - either be honest in the discussion or admit you're wrong. Two, you clearly don't understand what 'systemic" racism refers to. Laws aren't required for inequality to occur along racial lines. You conflating bad service at a restaurant with mountains of objective evidence of widespread inequality really tells every rational person here just how profoundy ignorant you are on the subject.

Sadly, these distinctions can be explained to you but not understood for you.

So systemic racism isn't any actual laws, it's an automatic assumption with all white people? A wink and a nod?

Talking about moving the goal posts. Its easy to claim systemic racism if its all relative.

You still have not provided any proof.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

And you still don’t provide anything for context. If there’s “systematic racism” what is it? Is it more black people being arrested in predominantly black communities? Do you believe black people aren’t making any bad decisions that adversely affects their lives?

As all libs, confuse stories and emotions from facts.

 

[ajvol01]

When you want to look beyond your narrow views and start trying to understand how this happened, you'll find various factors here, as well.

LBJ’s Great Society

 

[Y9 Vol]

When you want to look beyond your narrow views and start trying to understand how this happened, you'll find various factors here, as well.

Voting for Dems year after year?

 

[Septic]

LOL You... talking about moving goalposts.

That's funny right there.

Can you provide examples or is this just where you need to go to help yourself rationalize all the painful thumping's I've dished out?

 

[Septic]

So systemic racism isn't any actual laws, it's an automatic assumption with all white people? A wink and a nod?

Talking about moving the goal posts. Its easy to claim systemic racism if its all relative.

You still have not provided any proof.

What would you accept as proof?

I ask because the proof is at your fingertips and you've somehow conflated a "bad experience at a restaurant" with the principals that amalgamate to institutional and systemic racial inequality.

Truthfully, it lends me to believe that either you're not really interested in educating yourself on the position on which you've entrenched yourself, or you're simply too stupid to understand the concept.

If you'd like to pick one of the following topics of racial inequality, we can discuss specifics:

• Housing and Lending
• Crime and Sentencing
• Immigration
• Education
• Employment & Wages
• Health and Healthcare

 

[Septic]

And you still don’t provide anything for context. If there’s “systematic racism” what is it? Is it more black people being arrested in predominantly black communities? Do you believe black people aren’t making any bad decisions that adversely affects their lives?

Crime and sentencing, excellent choice.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, Black Americans are overrepresented in the country's incarcerated population. In 2018, Black inmates made up roughly 33% of the country's prison population — yet just 12% of the US's total population. White inmates, meanwhile, made up 30% of the prison population and 60% of the country's total population.

FBI arrest data show that Black Americans also make up the majority of suspects arrested and charged with violent crimes such as murder and robbery, which generally carry lengthy sentences. But criminal-justice reform advocates have argued that even taking crime rates into account, Blacks Americans still experience unequal treatment in the justice system compared to their white counterparts.

For instance, Black Americans are much more likely to get arrested on drug charges than white Americans, even though usage rates are comparable. Once arrested, Black defendants are more likely than white defendants to be denied bail, and more likely to receive harsher charges and sentences than white defendants who committed the same offenses, according to The Sentencing Project.

According to the federal government's Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, marijuana usage between Black and white Americans is similar. Just 18% of Black people over the age of 12 in 2018 reported using marijuana within the past year, while 17% of white people over the age of 12 reported the same.

But the usage rate is where the similarities end — that same year, Black Americans were arrested 3.6 times more often than white Americans for marijuana possession, according to an American Civil Liberties Union analysis of FBI and US Census data.

Black people are overwhelmingly more likely than white people to be under parole supervision — and they're more likely to be sent back to prison for minor infractions.

New York state has a particularly extreme racial disparity when it comes to parole supervision. Black people are 6.77 times more likely to be under parole supervision than white people, the Justice Lab found. They are also 4.99 times more likely than white people to be re-incarcerated due to "technical" parole violations, meaning that they had parole revoked due to minor infractions such as missing an appointment, rather than committing a new crime.

Roughly half of those fatally shot by police are white, but Black Americans are fatally shot at a disproportionate rate compared to their representation in the US population.

 

[Septic]

Notice he didn't actually provide you with any real world examples

I had, they were just ignored and deflected from.

Thanks for allowing me another opportunity to point that out.

 

[GSD82]

What would you accept as proof?

I ask because the proof is at your fingertips and you've somehow conflated a "bad experience at a restaurant" with the principals that amalgamate to institutional and systemic racial inequality.

Truthfully, it lends me to believe that either you're not really interested in educating yourself on the position on which you've entrenched yourself, or you're simply too stupid to understand the concept.

If you'd like to pick one of the following topics of racial inequality, we can discuss specifics:

• Housing and Lending
• Crime and Sentencing
• Immigration
• Education
• Employment & Wages
• Health and Healthcare

Education since its your party who is beholden to the teachers unions and both the teachers unions and dems keeps black kids in failing schools.

 

[Boca Vol]

Crime and sentencing, excellent choice.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, Black Americans are overrepresented in the country's incarcerated population. In 2018, Black inmates made up roughly 33% of the country's prison population — yet just 12% of the US's total population. White inmates, meanwhile, made up 30% of the prison population and 60% of the country's total population.

FBI arrest data show that Black Americans also make up the majority of suspects arrested and charged with violent crimes such as murder and robbery, which generally carry lengthy sentences. But criminal-justice reform advocates have argued that even taking crime rates into account, Blacks Americans still experience unequal treatment in the justice system compared to their white counterparts.

For instance, Black Americans are much more likely to get arrested on drug charges than white Americans, even though usage rates are comparable. Once arrested, Black defendants are more likely than white defendants to be denied bail, and more likely to receive harsher charges and sentences than white defendants who committed the same offenses, according to The Sentencing Project.

According to the federal government's Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, marijuana usage between Black and white Americans is similar. Just 18% of Black people over the age of 12 in 2018 reported using marijuana within the past year, while 17% of white people over the age of 12 reported the same.

But the usage rate is where the similarities end — that same year, Black Americans were arrested 3.6 times more often than white Americans for marijuana possession, according to an American Civil Liberties Union analysis of FBI and US Census data.

Black people are overwhelmingly more likely than white people to be under parole supervision — and they're more likely to be sent back to prison for minor infractions.

New York state has a particularly extreme racial disparity when it comes to parole supervision. Black people are 6.77 times more likely to be under parole supervision than white people, the Justice Lab found. They are also 4.99 times more likely than white people to be re-incarcerated due to "technical" parole violations, meaning that they had parole revoked due to minor infractions such as missing an appointment, rather than committing a new crime.

Roughly half of those fatally shot by police are white, but Black Americans are fatally shot at a disproportionate rate compared to their representation in the US population.

Interesting stats which can easily be explained by watching this short, yet informative, video:

 

[Y9 Vol]

Crime and sentencing, excellent choice.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, Black Americans are overrepresented in the country's incarcerated population. In 2018, Black inmates made up roughly 33% of the country's prison population — yet just 12% of the US's total population. White inmates, meanwhile, made up 30% of the prison population and 60% of the country's total population.

FBI arrest data show that Black Americans also make up the majority of suspects arrested and charged with violent crimes such as murder and robbery, which generally carry lengthy sentences. But criminal-justice reform advocates have argued that even taking crime rates into account, Blacks Americans still experience unequal treatment in the justice system compared to their white counterparts.

For instance, Black Americans are much more likely to get arrested on drug charges than white Americans, even though usage rates are comparable. Once arrested, Black defendants are more likely than white defendants to be denied bail, and more likely to receive harsher charges and sentences than white defendants who committed the same offenses, according to The Sentencing Project.

According to the federal government's Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, marijuana usage between Black and white Americans is similar. Just 18% of Black people over the age of 12 in 2018 reported using marijuana within the past year, while 17% of white people over the age of 12 reported the same.

But the usage rate is where the similarities end — that same year, Black Americans were arrested 3.6 times more often than white Americans for marijuana possession, according to an American Civil Liberties Union analysis of FBI and US Census data.

Black people are overwhelmingly more likely than white people to be under parole supervision — and they're more likely to be sent back to prison for minor infractions.

New York state has a particularly extreme racial disparity when it comes to parole supervision. Black people are 6.77 times more likely to be under parole supervision than white people, the Justice Lab found. They are also 4.99 times more likely than white people to be re-incarcerated due to "technical" parole violations, meaning that they had parole revoked due to minor infractions such as missing an appointment, rather than committing a new crime.

Roughly half of those fatally shot by police are white, but Black Americans are fatally shot at a disproportionate rate compared to their representation in the US population.

Play silly games, win silly prizes. (Am I doing it right Sep?)

 

[Septic]

Play silly games, win silly prizes. (Am I doing it right Sep?)

No.

The difference is that not all that play silly games are winning equal prizes.

Get it?

 

[C-south]

Crime and sentencing, excellent choice.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, Black Americans are overrepresented in the country's incarcerated population. In 2018, Black inmates made up roughly 33% of the country's prison population — yet just 12% of the US's total population. White inmates, meanwhile, made up 30% of the prison population and 60% of the country's total population.

FBI arrest data show that Black Americans also make up the majority of suspects arrested and charged with violent crimes such as murder and robbery, which generally carry lengthy sentences. But criminal-justice reform advocates have argued that even taking crime rates into account, Blacks Americans still experience unequal treatment in the justice system compared to their white counterparts.

For instance, Black Americans are much more likely to get arrested on drug charges than white Americans, even though usage rates are comparable. Once arrested, Black defendants are more likely than white defendants to be denied bail, and more likely to receive harsher charges and sentences than white defendants who committed the same offenses, according to The Sentencing Project.

According to the federal government's Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, marijuana usage between Black and white Americans is similar. Just 18% of Black people over the age of 12 in 2018 reported using marijuana within the past year, while 17% of white people over the age of 12 reported the same.

But the usage rate is where the similarities end — that same year, Black Americans were arrested 3.6 times more often than white Americans for marijuana possession, according to an American Civil Liberties Union analysis of FBI and US Census data.

Black people are overwhelmingly more likely than white people to be under parole supervision — and they're more likely to be sent back to prison for minor infractions.

New York state has a particularly extreme racial disparity when it comes to parole supervision. Black people are 6.77 times more likely to be under parole supervision than white people, the Justice Lab found. They are also 4.99 times more likely than white people to be re-incarcerated due to "technical" parole violations, meaning that they had parole revoked due to minor infractions such as missing an appointment, rather than committing a new crime.

Roughly half of those fatally shot by police are white, but Black Americans are fatally shot at a disproportionate rate compared to their representation in the US population.

Here I was thinking there was a lot more weighed into sentencing a person instead of race. Some things like severity of the crime, criminal record, whether they show remorse, etc. As usual it’s the perfect capita stats which if anything should reveal what the actual problem is. It ain’t racism.

 

[Y9 Vol]

No.

The difference is that not all that play silly games are winning equal prizes.

Get it?

They don't "get it" is the issue.

 

[utvolpj]

Here I was thinking there was a lot more weighed into sentencing a person instead of race. Some things like severity of the crime, criminal record, whether they show remorse, etc. As usual it’s the perfect capita stats which if anything should reveal what the actual problem is. It ain’t racism.

Actually it's been shown that under very similar crimes the sentencing is harsher for minorities. Even the post you quoted showed many of the inequalities but you must have missed those

 

[Septic]

Here I was thinking there was a lot more weighed into sentencing a person instead of race. Some things like severity of the crime, criminal record, whether they show remorse, etc. As usual it’s the perfect capita stats which if anything should reveal what the actual problem is. It ain’t racism.

 

[C-south]

Actually it's been shown that under very similar crimes the sentencing is harsher for minorities. Even the post you quoted showed many of the inequalities but you must have missed those

‍♂

Break the law and roll the dice. You can start by blaming the top two idiots running the country.

 

[Septic]

Actually it's been shown that under very similar crimes the sentencing is harsher for minorities. Even the post you quoted showed many of the inequalities but you must have missed those

Missed, ignored - same thing?

 

[Septic]

‍♂

Break the law and roll the dice. You can start by blaming the top two idiots running the country.

Deflection.

The argument is that when a white and a black break the same law, the blacks are both arrested at higher rate and receive harsher punishment.

Try to keep up.

 

[utvolpj]

‍♂

Break the law and roll the dice. You can start by blaming the top two idiots running the country.

But they're loaded dice. That's the point you fail to comprehend

 

[utvolpj]

Missed, ignored - same thing?

Big words scary

 

[C-south]

Deflection.

The argument is that when a white and a black break the same law, the blacks are both arrested at higher rate and receive harsher punishment.

Try to keep up.

How many white people fake racial crimes and get away with it and with the support of top politicians? Funny how the events that transpired this past summer was perfectly fine yet what happened a month ago was so much worse. Regardless, many of these crimes happen in liberal cities with liberal judges. Blame them. And no it’s not deflection your response was.

 

[C-south]

But they're loaded dice. That's the point you fail to comprehend

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