bob stoops is still overrated.

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#101
therealUT said:
Stoops gets credit for scheduling the Miami game this year. That is really the only real tough non conference game that Stoops has ever scheduled.
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I wonder how much input Stoops really has on the schedule.

Why do you not include Alabama and Oregon? Bama was pretty good in 2002.
 
#102
#102
kptvol said:
I wonder how much input Stoops really has on the schedule.

Why do you not include Alabama and Oregon? Bama was pretty good in 2002.
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...and stoops scheduled them the year they went 3-8...

Oregon was not the years they played Oklahoma(in the regular season) nor the years those games were scheduled...(unranked in 2002 and 2004).

Those would certainly be the reasons why I would not include them.

A big name doesn't exactly mean a good team...see Notre Dame, 1999.
 
#103
#103
therealUT said:
...and stoops scheduled them the year they went 3-8...

Oregon was not the years they played Oklahoma(in the regular season) nor the years those games were scheduled...(unranked in 2002 and 2004).

Those would certainly be the reasons why I would not include them.

A big name doesn't exactly mean a good team...see Notre Dame, 1999.
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Oregon was not that far removed from a season that let them have an argument for National Champions.
 
#104
#104
Well, with an argument like that, who can stay unconvinced that Stoops does schedule tough non conference games...
 
#105
#105
therealUT said:
Well, with an argument like that, who can stay unconvinced that Stoops does schedule tough non conference games...
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Oregon has been a good program most of this century. I don't see anything wrong with scheduling them.

I'm not saying they are all tough, but I'm not going to act like he's only had one tough OOC game his entire time at OU.
 
#106
#106
kptvol said:
Oregon has been a good program most of this century. I don't see anything wrong with scheduling them.

I'm not saying they are all tough, but I'm not going to act like he's only had one tough OOC game his entire time at OU.
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All 8 years of it?!?! Wow! Also, by good program, do you mean one that has finished in the Top 25 only 3 times?
 
#107
#107
therealUT said:
All 8 years of it?!?! Wow! Also, by good program, do you mean one that has finished in the Top 25 only 3 times?
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Oregon has been good lately, thus when scheduling them in the near future, one could expect to face a team of equal quality.
 
#108
#108
kptvol said:
Oregon has been good lately, thus when scheduling them in the near future, one could expect to face a team of equal quality.
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Oregon might not finish this year in the Top 25. So, 2000, 2001, and 2005 they finish in the Top 25 and now they are good lately?

Funny, that someone with such low standards of quality would want Fulmer gone at UT...
 
#109
#109
These games are scheduled far enough out that it's quibbling to complain about how relatively up or down a given team on the schedule is at any time. OU has Tennessee on its schedule in the future; there's no telling how good we'll be by the time we play the game. Any team which schedules an OOC game every year with programs like Alabama, UCLA, Oregon, and Miami is doing better than most I-A schools.
 
#110
#110
therealUT said:
Oregon might not finish this year in the Top 25. So, 2000, 2001, and 2005 they finish in the Top 25 and now they are good lately?

Funny, that someone with such low standards of quality would want Fulmer gone at UT...
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They'll finish in the top 25 this year. Had Dennis Dixon not gotten hurt they'd more than likely be getting ready to face Ohio State right now. I don't know what you want to see. He's facing top 25 OOC teams. In 2001, they were a top 3 team. How long after that season did OU schedule the Ducks?
 
#111
#111
kptvol said:
They'll finish in the top 25 this year. Had Dennis Dixon not gotten hurt they'd more than likely be getting ready to face Ohio State right now. I don't know what you want to see. He's facing top 25 OOC teams. In 2001, they were a top 3 team.
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Don't let facts get in the way of your argument or anything like that...
 
#115
#115
For god's sake, what do you expect? Stoops to have a crystal ball to look eight years into the future and schedule only opponents that will be in the top 25 then? Every year OU has an OOC opponent that could reasonably be expected to be a top 25-type team, when they could just instead collect another $3m payday for having another home sellout against a directional school. There aren't many major-conference schools doing much better.
 
#116
#116
kptvol said:
TCU.
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Starting the season unranked and playing OU first, TCU in 2005 was nothing more than Hawaii this year. You can add them to the list, and yes, factually, they finished in the Top 15. If that comforts you, go for it. However, take em or leave em, it sure doesn't do a hell of a lot to help your argument.
 
#117
#117
Vercingetorix said:
For god's sake, what do you expect? Stoops to have a crystal ball to look eight years into the future and schedule only opponents that will be in the top 25 then? Every year OU has an OOC opponent that could reasonably be expected to be a top 25-type team, when they could just instead collect another $3m payday for having another home sellout against a directional school. There aren't many major-conference schools doing much better.
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8 years?!?! Wow. Games are usually scheduled two years out. In exceptional cases, three years.
 
#118
#118
therealUT said:
Starting the season unranked and playing OU first, TCU in 2005 was nothing more than Hawaii this year. You can add them to the list, and yes, factually, they finished in the Top 15. If that comforts you, go for it. However, take em or leave em, it sure doesn't do a hell of a lot to help your argument.
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Starting the season unranked is meaningless. They'd been playing good football for Patterson for several years. They finished highly ranked. I'm not comforted by what I'm posting. You say 1 team, I show you 2. That basically wins my argument.
 
#121
#121
therealUT said:
8 years?!?! Wow. Games are usually scheduled two years out. In exceptional cases, three years.
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Home-and-homes with schools from another big conference are frequently scheduled years in advance. OU already has games scheduled with traditional powers Florida State in 2010 and 2011, Notre Dame in 2012 and 2013, and Tennessee in 2014 and 2015. Is that soft OOC scheduling just because ND and FSU sucked in 2007?
 
#125
#125
Man, such the debate going on here. Does there need to be a mediator boys? :p:birgits_giggle:
 
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