Boycott Organic Food?

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Slydell said:
I'm going to try that this fall/winter. Until local produce comes out each year, tomatoes coming into this area are pathetic.
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My Dad tried these in southern Utah which is possibly the windiest place on earth, so they didn't work for him, but otherwise they are supposed to be great.
 
#53
#53
Organic fruits and vegetables = organic is far superior in taste

Organic meats = non-organic taste better. people choose this for reasons other than taste

There is little debate about this. I can take an old soggy organic apple and compare it to a fresh sprayed apple and well, it would lose.

If there is one place I would want to avoid chemicals designed to sterilize and/or fry the central nervous systems of insects, it would be in my mouth.

My daughter can eat organic melons but breaks out in a rash if she eats non-organic (GMO) melons. Why would anyone be critical of feeding her organic melons?

OP's confidence in his opinion does not appear to match his knowledge or experience on the subject.
 
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nbakerld said:
Definitely on food. Religious people know and boast that they are acting on faith. The organic cult does not even realize that they are acting on faith.
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I wouldn't say its their fault though - I swallowed the same rumors/info they are. Thought organic was better solely because I was told so. Seemed rational - so I believed it.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
I wouldn't say its their fault though - I swallowed the same rumors/info they are. Thought organic was better solely because I was told so. Seemed rational - so I believed it.
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Yeah, but you weren't rearranging your life to comply. You would have done research first.
 
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Muschump said:
No way. He watched a Penn and Teller skit on youtube.
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It's actually a show on Showtime with very academic guests. The hosts are biased, but they do their homework and aren't willing to compromise their reps to make a point. Which is why they call on experts like Alex Avery.

I am willing to bet you didn't watch the Penn & Teller clip.
 
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s1216 said:
Organic fruits and vegetables = organic is far superior in taste

Organic meats = non-organic taste better. people choose this for reasons other than taste

There is little debate about this. I can take an old soggy organic apple and compare it to a fresh sprayed apple and well, it would lose.

If there is one place I would want to avoid chemicals designed to sterilize and/or fry the central nervous systems of insects, it would be in my mouth.

My daughter can eat organic melons but breaks out in a rash if she eats non-organic (GMO) melons. Why would anyone be critical of feeding her organic melons?

OP's confidence in his opinion does not appear to match his knowledge or experience on the subject.
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All organic foods use pesticides. Natural pesticides are not proven to be any safer.

If the best that you can come up with is your daughter is allergic to some synthetic pesticides then there really isn't an argument. I'm sure there are kids with allergic reactions to natural pesticides.

I'm not trying to ban organic food, or take away your daughter's watermelons. I'm trying to stop the cult that wants us to penalize non-organic food consumption and reward organic food consumption.
 
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Among the many things I hate about losing my Grandparents (damn, they were good people) was the food. Go out and help them a little (they'd never ask though, you had to do the "Hey, it's the least I can do." routine) and you had apples, pears, peas, green beans, squash, corn, okra, etc that you knew was fresh or even had picked it yourself.

I also like wild game I harvest myself when I can. That's as organic as meat comes. It's also very lean. Too lean for some people without actually adding fat, depending how it's prepared. (some places aren't the best for eating the fish though)
 
#61
#61
Let the free market take it's place. People should just be knowledgeable about what they're buying.

I work in the Agriculture industry, and I'll tell you that I could care less if something is organic or not. But if people really want to pay more for it, then so be it. But at the same time, don't put restrictions on farmers (particularly livestock and poultry operators) with onerous regulations just to appease some hippy constituents, lobbyists, and general clueless people.

One of the most ridiculous movements is the war against genetically modified crops. People are swayed by scare tactics, but GM crops improve production which leads to a cheaper product. You really think starving people care if the food they are eating is GM or the chicken isn't free range? The truth is, the GM process has been going on for eons, people selecting which seeds to use based on how it performs. Today, using technology, they are able to speed up the process. With a growing population, and concerns about feeding all those people, we shouldn't be taking a step backwards in that goal by implementing ignorant restrictions on food production.

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nbakerld said:
It's actually a show on Showtime with very academic guests. The hosts are biased, but they do their homework and aren't willing to compromise their reps to make a point. Which is why they call on experts like Alex Avery.

I am willing to bet you didn't watch the Penn & Teller clip.
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Actually I quite enjoy Bullsht! Doesn't change at all what the poster I was responding to said. Still rings quite true.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
Clearly the final authority on all things "lifestyle".....
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You're criticizing one of my sources when my sources have included the American Cancer Society, Alex Avery, and Ronald Bailey.

You have named 0 sources.
 
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What was your (Penn and Teller's) explaination for the general health of American's? Your kidding yourself if you think there's no correlation.
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nbakerld said:
It's actually a show on Showtime with very academic guests. The hosts are biased, but they do their homework and aren't willing to compromise their reps to make a point. Which is why they call on experts like Alex Avery.

I am willing to bet you didn't watch the Penn & Teller clip.
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I have seen the whole episode, and Penn and Teller exhibit about as mich proof for their side of the argument as any has presented for the other side in this thread. I think their show is interesting, but interesting doesn't make them 100% correct.

Also, like the poster said earlier, I dont give a **** what some comedian/magicians say, the eggs and vegetables that came from grandma's garden or a family member's farm are vastly superior to the stuff I generally find in the supermarket
 
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nbakerld said:
You're criticizing one of my sources when my sources have included the American Cancer Society, Alex Avery, and Ronald Bailey.

You have named 0 sources.
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They literally made the point that "it tastes better," on the show. Do you realize how mind-numbingly stupid that is?
 
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Orangekush423 said:
What was your (Penn and Teller's) explaination for the general health of American's? Your kidding yourself if you think there's no correlation.
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I don't even know what's going on in this post betwixt all the grammar and spelling errors, not to mention I don't even have a frame of reference. What aspect of the "general health of American's" are you referring to? Actually, forget it. I'm still waiting for you to validate the attack of the killer apples claim you made. If you can't, just leave.
 
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emainvol said:
I have seen the whole episode, and Penn and Teller exhibit about as mich proof for their side of the argument as any has presented for the other side in this thread. I think their show is interesting, but interesting doesn't make them 100% correct.
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They don't have to prove their side. All they have to do is show a lack of proof on the other side. If Penn & Teller were rallying the troops and calling us to action to lobby congressmen and ban organic foods, then I would say, "Where is the proof that we should do this?"

This is the exact same approach Penn & Teller are taking to the organic lobbyists..."Where is the proof that we should do this?" There isn't any proof.
 
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