Bracketmatrix 2021-22

[Sudden Impact]

We need a Quad 1 win or two off our home court. Now we might get one from Colorado as their 78th but I think getting one in the SEC tournament will be important. So to have a shot at a 2 we need to beat UGA and Arkansas, which we should, and I think at least make the SEC tournament final.

NC but it was a neutral court.....so it is a 50 or better Rating???

Ugly losses against Q1 teams, TT, Texas, LSU?, Arkansas, Alabama Three were poorly officiated and two were due to shut down defenses.

Playing forward we are seeing so many combinations to combat different teams on schedule. This is the Value of CRB time will tell.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I really scratch my heads sometimes listening to the talking heads how out of touch they are with something that is so simple and easy to find.

Talking heads don't like giving metrics any credit because it makes their job obsolete so they continue to parrot things like "eye test" and bash teams that don't fit their own weird eye test requirements to make themselves sound smart.

It's why there are SO many talking heads carrying water for Providence and Wisconsin and have them as 2-seeds even though there is a very high chance one (if not both) of them are bounced in the first weekend.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Talking heads don't like giving metrics any credit because it makes their job obsolete so they continue to parrot things like "eye test" and bash teams that don't fit their own weird eye test requirements to make themselves sound smart.

It's why there are SO many talking heads carrying water for Providence and Wisconsin and have them as 2-seeds even though there is a very high chance one (if not both) of them are bounced in the first weekend.

But hell just look at bracketmatrix and they do the work for you essentially

 

[golfballs]

Awesome! Are those rankings somewhere or something you put together?

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

I posted an analysis done by the heat check blog which said since the committee has started using these (only 2 years) it appears they lean on resume for selecting the field and an average of resume and quality for seeding. Which if that were the case would make us the 8th overall seed. Averaging in the NET, and it would make us 6th

 

[golfballs]

If we move up to a 2 seed I could easily see us being shipped out to the San Francisco region. First/Second round potentially in Indy.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

But hell just look at bracketmatrix and they do the work for you essentially

Yep. There are easily trackable reasons why dudes like Jerry Palm and Joe Lunardi are bad bracketologists. I think they rebuke metrics and use their own judgement for listings because metrics continue to get better and continue to put their livelihood in danger.

 

[golfballs]

looking at all the metrics which are included on the team sheets, the worst is KenPom and we’re 11th there. Can’t fathom how anyone would have us as a 4 seed atm

 

[Sudden Impact]

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

I posted an analysis done by the heat check blog which said since the committee has started using these (only 2 years) it appears they lean on resume for selecting the field and an average of resume and quality for seeding. Which if that were the case would make us the 8th overall seed. Averaging in the NET, and it would make us 6th

Does SOS play into this at all.....If it does This is another advantage that is being overlooked by the so called experts? I don't think the Committee will ignore it.

 

[Vol49er]

I'd like to see us have a good week offensively and get that AdjO number back near (or in) the Top 30 before tournament play. Feels like teams that make Final Four runs often have AdjO numbers a bit higher than ours. But, I also wonder how often those teams play the sheer number of strong defenses we faced this year.

Is it not schedule adjusted?

 

[vol9799]

I agree. Hard to know if it’s bias or ignorance, but it spans the ESPN ecosystem. It isn’t just Dykes.

But normally Dykes is fair when it comes to UT. He was so far up Auburn's behind yesterday it had me screaming at him thru the TV.

You are right that they all are underselling us, but he triggered me yesterday with his fawning all over AU. That said, I think the early exit for the '19 team and last year's team not maximizing their talent is a lot of why the talking heads are overlooking us. Not fair, just reality.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I think the ideal scenario for me would be to find a way to sneak in as a 2-seed and then get matched with Providence as a 3-seed.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Love this thread, feel like after yesterday we are somewhere between 9-11 on the seed list and I lean more towards 11 than 9. Maybe like 10.3 if I had to define it.

Big week for many reasons. Need Vandy to go 1-1 to stay Q1/Q2 wins. Need UF to upset UK to maybe become Q1. Need Colorado to beat Utah to maybe sneak into Q1.

Then root against TT, Nova, entire top of BIG and Auburn at Miss St!!! So much action!!!

 

[hUTch2002]

NC but it was a neutral court.....so it is a 50 or better Rating???

Ugly losses against Q1 teams, TT, Texas, LSU?, Arkansas, Alabama Three were poorly officiated and two were due to shut down defenses.

Playing forward we are seeing so many combinations to combat different teams on schedule. This is the Value of CRB time will tell.

You’re right. I was thinking UNC was still in the 50s but that’s one Q1 win on a neutral court. That’s good. Hopefully CU will get there too and then we can maybe add one more. That would be huge. TT and TX were games we absolutely shouldn’t have lost. You can argue all of those losses of course but we just played so poorly against TT and it went to OT and against TX and we lost by 1. Both games will help come March though.

I absolutely love the makeup of our team and have since the start of the year. I seriously thought we could make a Final 4 because of how all our pieces fit together. I don’t know that I’m back to that level but I’m expecting Sweet 16 and thinking E8 is very possible.

 

[therealitytheory]

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

I posted an analysis done by the heat check blog which said since the committee has started using these (only 2 years) it appears they lean on resume for selecting the field and an average of resume and quality for seeding. Which if that were the case would make us the 8th overall seed. Averaging in the NET, and it would make us 6th

32. Loyola of Chicago...... seeing that name always makes me want to cuss.

 

[Sudden Impact]

You’re right. I was thinking UNC was still in the 50s but that’s one Q1 win on a neutral court. That’s good. Hopefully CU will get there too and then we can maybe add one more. That would be huge. TT and TX were games we absolutely shouldn’t have lost. You can argue all of those losses of course but we just played so poorly against TT and it went to OT and against TX and we lost by 1. Both games will help come March though.

I absolutely love the makeup of our team and have since the start of the year. I seriously thought we could make a Final 4 because of how all our pieces fit together. I don’t know that I’m back to that level but I’m expecting Sweet 16 and thinking E8 is very possible.

If the committee had us at a 3 to begin the week I don't see any reason to change it. a loss to Ark and a win against Auburn. We win out an hold our own in tournament then we get a 3 seed

 

[hUTch2002]

If the committee had us at a 3 to begin the week I don't see any reason to change it. a loss to Ark and a win against Auburn. We win out an hold our own in tournament then we get a 3 seed

We would have to go 1-2 to close out to not get a 3. That’s an upset against UGA or Arkansas and loss in our first tournament game. So 1-2 and we drop to a 4 seed. 4-1 or 5-0 and we get a 2. Anything else and we stay a 3.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

32. Loyola of Chicago...... seeing that name always makes me want to cuss.

Isn’t Sister Jean about 115 years old now?

 

[JMSqb11]

You think Bama and LSU make 4 seeds? I doubt both do. One might, likely Bama.

You know what’s wild. I forgot we lost to LSU and Bama. During that stretch of games, fans were absolutely unbearable and starting the “Barnes is mailing it in”

Crazy though is fact LSU will be our worst loss this year and they were 13-1 when we played. Totally forgot about those early SEC losses.

 

[hUTch2002]

You know what’s wild. I forgot we lost to LSU and Bama. During that stretch of games, fans were absolutely unbearable and starting the “Barnes is mailing it in”

Crazy though is fact LSU will be our worst loss this year and they were 13-1 when we played. Totally forgot about those early SEC losses.

Neither is a bad loss. Bama could possibly end up as a 4 seed if they finish strong. All in all we’ve had a good year against a great schedule…so far. We can make it a great year with how we finish. Either way, I’m excited to see what this team does. Maybe we make a run and maybe we don’t. I’m enjoying believing that we’re capable of making one as we don’t get that feeling often.

 

[VolArmy74]

Looks like we moved up to 8 in the NET rankings and Vandy moved to 75th which bumped our Q1 record from 5-7 going into the Auburn game to 7-7 today.

 

[Vol49er]

Looks like we moved up to 8 in the NET rankings and Vandy moved to 75th which bumped our Q1 record from 5-7 going into the Auburn game to 7-7 today.

Colarado at 78 too. 76 is getting blown out by Memphis currently

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Does the selection committee plan to release another “updated” Top 16 prior to selection Sunday, or is this a one time thing? I know this is somewhat new, so I can’t remember.

It would be interesting to see prior to the SEC Tournament where we stand. It might give us a good idea of just how realistic a 2-seed could be.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Updated…

1. Arizona L
2. Gonzaga L
3. Kansas L
4. Auburn L
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5. Kentucky L
6. Purdue L
7. Baylor W
8. Duke W
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9. Texas Tech L
10. Villanova
11. Tennessee W
12. Illinois W
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13. Wisconsin W
14. UCLA W
15. Providence W
16. Houston W
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17. Connecticut W
18. Texas W
19. Alabama W
20. Arkansas W
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21. Ohio State L
22. USC W
23. LSU W
24. St. Mary’s W

 

[Ericvol2096]

Does the selection committee plan to release another “updated” Top 16 prior to selection Sunday, or is this a one time thing? I know this is somewhat new, so I can’t remember.

It would be interesting to see prior to the SEC Tournament where we stand. It might give us a good idea of just how realistic a 2-seed could be.

One time.

 

[hUTch2002]

Looks like we moved up to 8 in the NET rankings and Vandy moved to 75th which bumped our Q1 record from 5-7 going into the Auburn game to 7-7 today.

Not only that, we now have 3 Q1 wins away from home. I didn’t realize we had that many. I tell you what, only 11 teams n the country have 7 Q1 wins and 3 away from home is pretty good. I have no doubt that if we go 4-1 we will be a 2 seed. We might even get a 2 seed if we go 3-1 (losing in the SEC semifinals).