Bracketmatrix 2021-22

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#702
cwbytruckers said:
Arizona doesnt scare me. Kansas is overrated as usual. Providence is the toughest of the three
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I can go ahead and tell you that Providence would not beat Arizona on a neutral floor. If it wasn’t for the insane stretch we had to start the game vs Arizona, I don’t know if we come out of that game with a win. I’m not saying we can’t beat them again, but they definitely would scare me a little on a neutral floor given that they feel like they got the short end of the stick in that game.
 
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I’d love to see Purdue in the same bracket as Tennessee.

Tennessee has definitely had ups and downs on O, and Purdue definitely has the O; however when Tennessee has really struggled it has mostly been vs teams with good D’s……..Purdue doesn’t know what defense is.

They haven’t seen a D close to what Tennessee has……as Indiana’s 33rd ranked D is the best they’ve faced (and Purdue lost).

They may beat Indiana Saturday, but I’d say Tennessee would handle them by double digits. I hope I get to find out.
 
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Something to note... Seth Davis reported yesterday that Duke has requested to be placed in the Midwest Regional (Chicago) instead of the East (Philly). Chicago is Coach K’s hometown and that’s where the school has requested to go. So if that’s the case, Duke will not be in the Greenville region of the bracket. But, the request is only granted to the overall number 1 seed. The rest will follow original bracketing principles. But let’s watch and see if the committee finds a way to place Duke in Chicago while following the principles.
 
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BallerVolFan said:
Something to note... Seth Davis reported yesterday that Duke has requested to be placed in the Midwest Regional (Chicago) instead of the East (Philly). Chicago is Coach K’s hometown and that’s where the school has requested to go. So if that’s the case, Duke will not be in the Greenville region of the bracket. But, the request is only granted to the overall number 1 seed. The rest will follow original bracketing principles. But let’s watch and see if the committee finds a way to place Duke in Chicago while following the principles.
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Why would the region prevent them from going to Greenville for 1st/2nd round?
 
#706
#706
golfballs said:
Today's update. Purdue Moves a spot down, Wisconsin moves up a lot. Villanova ahead of us, and despite the loss Providence moves up too.
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I don’t get the Wisconsin move, prior to Saturday's games we had been holding ahead of them for awhile…since then we beat Auburn at home and Georgia on the road, they beat Rutgers on the road and Purdue at home. I agree Rutgers > Georgia, but Auburn is also > Purdue, yet they vaulted up?
 
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TN #9 in the athletic's power rankings:

Men's college basketball power rankings: The one where No. 1 is a bit of an abstract concept

9. Tennessee (22-7)

We got all hot and bothered about Tennessee after the blowout win over Kentucky Feb. 15, a performance which cemented the idea that Tennessee was not just a teeth-grinding defensive force (a la last season) but had realized the offensive potential it hoped to have when it rewired its personnel in the offseason. Naturally, UT’s next game was a 58-48 loss at Arkansas, played across 68 possessions. What a great time to start making grand claims about the Tennessee offense. Sheesh.

Still, that awful night in Fayetteville aside, Tennessee’s post-Feb. 1 scoring trends remain positive. The Volunteers are passing it well, getting better looks and making more of them; they rank 13th in the country in their rate of assists per made field goals and third in the SEC in 3-point shooting percentage. If the Vols weren’t shooting 45.5 percent from inside the arc — worst in their league — they’d be an even more potent offensive force. (What’s wild is that Tennessee isn’t really forcing up bad midrange jumpers, either; the Vols take just 25.2 percent of their shots as 2-point jumpers, per Hoop-Math. They also don’t convert their shots at the rim at anything like an elite rate — they make 59.4 percent of shots around the rim. For reference, Gonzaga makes 70.)

As it is they’re pretty decent, and certainly better than last year, and the best news remains that they don’t always need to be. After all, last Saturday this team beat Auburn 67-62 in 72 trips, a victory straight out of Rick Barnes’ defense-obsessed dreams. Eight or maybe nine times out of 10, “pretty decent” on offense — which is what Tennessee has been on that end for the last month — is more than enough for a team that guards like this to win.
 
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The Dog said:
Yes, especially if Indiana beats them this weekend. I think Wisconsin's floor is now a 3 seed, like UT's as long as both win this weekend
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There is absolutely Big 10 bias. Look at all these bracket “experts” like Katz and Lunardi who have 16-12 Rutgers (as these projections were before they beat IU last night) ahead of 19-11 Florida. Florida’s NET before the games yesterday was 51 while Rutgers was 81. Even the old RPI was 68-80 in favor of Florida so why did they have Rutgers ahead of Florida?
 
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Volprofch05 said:
TN #9 in the athletic's power rankings:

Men's college basketball power rankings: The one where No. 1 is a bit of an abstract concept

9. Tennessee (22-7)

We got all hot and bothered about Tennessee after the blowout win over Kentucky Feb. 15, a performance which cemented the idea that Tennessee was not just a teeth-grinding defensive force (a la last season) but had realized the offensive potential it hoped to have when it rewired its personnel in the offseason. Naturally, UT’s next game was a 58-48 loss at Arkansas, played across 68 possessions. What a great time to start making grand claims about the Tennessee offense. Sheesh.

Still, that awful night in Fayetteville aside, Tennessee’s post-Feb. 1 scoring trends remain positive. The Volunteers are passing it well, getting better looks and making more of them; they rank 13th in the country in their rate of assists per made field goals and third in the SEC in 3-point shooting percentage. If the Vols weren’t shooting 45.5 percent from inside the arc — worst in their league — they’d be an even more potent offensive force. (What’s wild is that Tennessee isn’t really forcing up bad midrange jumpers, either; the Vols take just 25.2 percent of their shots as 2-point jumpers, per Hoop-Math. They also don’t convert their shots at the rim at anything like an elite rate — they make 59.4 percent of shots around the rim. For reference, Gonzaga makes 70.)

As it is they’re pretty decent, and certainly better than last year, and the best news remains that they don’t always need to be. After all, last Saturday this team beat Auburn 67-62 in 72 trips, a victory straight out of Rick Barnes’ defense-obsessed dreams. Eight or maybe nine times out of 10, “pretty decent” on offense — which is what Tennessee has been on that end for the last month — is more than enough for a team that guards like this to win.
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Oh if we only could have played better on offense against TTU, Texas, and Arkansas. We would be sitting at 25-4 with a chance at a 1 seed. Heck, just find a way to win the TTU and Texas games and we’re 24-5 and firmly a 2 seed. Those close games are the difference between a 3 seed and a 1 seed.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
There is absolutely Big 10 bias. Look at all these bracket “experts” like Katz and Lunardi who have 16-12 Rutgers (as these projections were before they beat IU last night) ahead of 19-11 Florida. Florida’s NET before the games yesterday was 51 while Rutgers was 81. Even the old RPI was 68-80 in favor of Florida so why did they have Rutgers ahead of Florida?
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I’m starting to think the Big 10 has dirt on all these networks. There’s no other logical reason year in and year out for them to get the amount of attention they do.
 
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#711
bleedingTNorange said:
I don’t get the Wisconsin move, prior to Saturday's games we had been holding ahead of them for awhile…since then we beat Auburn at home and Georgia on the road, they beat Rutgers on the road and Purdue at home. I agree Rutgers > Georgia, but Auburn is also > Purdue, yet they vaulted up?
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Agree was surprised w that
 
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#712
golfballs said:
Agree was surprised w that
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Not to be a cynic, but the Big 10 is always going to benefit from human bias. The amount of Big 10 alumni in major media markets is off the charts compared to the SEC. To them, the SEC will always be an undesirable backwater that abuses them in football every year. Like it or not, the SEC is not represented in top offices in major markets. This bias will always sneak in to the human side of any model.
 
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#715
TheMookieMonster said:
I mean I trust this team a lot, but I don't think it's crazy to have doubts just due to the sheer craziness of March. This team is probably better prepared than any TN team in recent memory to make a run solely because we haven't lost to a bad team yet, but weird stuff happens in March. Whether it's Loyola Chicago in 2018 or Oregon State in 2021, we seem to have bad luck with running into the "Cinderallas".
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We weren’t a very good team last year so that Oregon St loss wasn’t much of a surprise. We had talent but the pieces didn’t fit well together. This year we are a much better team even though we aren’t that different in overall talent. We have a way more balanced team too. I’m leaning Elite 8 at the moment but I’ll have to see the matchups. A Final 4 isn’t off the table but that usually does take a break or two to go your way.
 
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#716
berryvol said:
Give me Wisconsin, Providence, Purdue, Kansas allllllll day. If we somehow land 2/3 of those in our bracket I’ll be elated.
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I agree with you on Purdue. The metrics support it. But dang, we have found non-sensical ways to lose to them the last two times we played them in basketball and football. We need to exact some revenge!
 
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#717
VolArmy74 said:
Much more impressive for us. Gonzaga simply doesn't play many of those games, and even fewer in a hostile environment. I'm still not sure what all the computers see in San Francisco that's giving Gonzaga two top 30 wins.
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Gonzaga plays more Quad 2-4 games than we do actually but you’re definitely barking up the right tree. The reason it’s more impressive for us is we play way more Quad 2 and 3 games than Gonzaga. Gonzaga is 3-0 against Quads 2 and 3 while we’re 11-0 (included UGA game). Gonzaga has 13 Quad 4 wins to our 5.

One more interesting thing. We’re really no different than Auburn, they’ve just played an easier schedule than us. In fact, based on how we’ve played the middle to lower teams in the road compared to how they’ve played I’d argue we’re the better team. Look at how they almost lost to Mizzou, UGA, and Miss St. We’ve played better than any UT team I’ve seen in those kind of road games. Apparently the NET ranking agrees as Auburn is behind us. Before last night Auburn was 7-4 against Quad 1. All 4 losses have been away from home. We are 7-7 with all 7 losses away from home. Had they played our non-conference schedule I bet they’d be no better than the 7 losses we have either.
 
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#719
#719
golfballs said:
This bracket would probably be

San Fran: 1. Gonzaga 2. Wisconsin 3. Texas Tech 4. Arkansas
San Antonio: 1. Baylor 2. Kentucky 3. Purdue 4. UCLA
Chicago: 1. Arizona 2. Kansas 3. Tennessee 4. Providence
Philadelphia: 1. Auburn 2. Duke 3. Villanova 4. Illinois
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I tell you what, that’s more balance than I’ve maybe ever seen in the top 4 seeds. Usually the 1s and 2s have a decent gap over the 3s and 4s on the whole but that isn’t the case this year. This could be a wild tournament.
 
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#720
Stoerner Fumbles said:
Not to be a cynic, but the Big 10 is always going to benefit from human bias. The amount of Big 10 alumni in major media markets is off the charts compared to the SEC. To them, the SEC will always be an undesirable backwater that abuses them in football every year. Like it or not, the SEC is not represented in top offices in major markets. This bias will always sneak in to the human side of any model.
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Spot on
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don’t get the Wisconsin move, prior to Saturday's games we had been holding ahead of them for awhile…since then we beat Auburn at home and Georgia on the road, they beat Rutgers on the road and Purdue at home. I agree Rutgers > Georgia, but Auburn is also > Purdue, yet they vaulted up?
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That was why I was worried about them beating Purdue because of the Big 10 bias. Now we are the last 3 seed in the bracketmatrix.
 
#722
#722
Willy14 said:
That was why I was worried about them beating Purdue because of the Big 10 bias. Now we are the last 3 seed in the bracketmatrix.[/QUOTE

Frankly, taking the daily temperature of our seed is futile. If we win this weekend, that 3 is a really solid floor. If we don’t, it’s not. Big 10 bias won’t change that.
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#723
bleedingTNorange said:
Alabama starts off the night with a L…

1. Gonzaga
2. Baylor
3. Arizona W
4. Kansas L
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5. Auburn W
6. Kentucky W
7. Duke W
8. Purdue L
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9. Texas Tech
10. Tennessee W
11. Villanova W
12. Wisconsin W
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13. Providence L
14. Illinois
15. UCLA
16. Connecticut L
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17. Arkansas W
18. Houston W
19. Texas
20. Alabama L
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I hate that we won and dropped two spots in the matrix, but I understand it since we beat Georgia and Nova beat Prov and Wisconsin beat Purdue.
 
#724
#724
Man, I hope you are right. I just would hate to lose that 3 seed. Huge difference between that and 4 seed since we can avoid the 1 seed
 
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