Bray Season Stats - Read them and decide if you want him back

Do you want Bray to return?

  • Total voters
    0
#76
#76
whobethis16 said:
If he had shown even an ounce of being able to lead the team in clutch time, (ie going 4 and out, running out of time, etc) instead of having 4 turnovers, then I would agree with you. This fact cannot be disputed: in crunch time and game on the line, the D stepped up and got the ball back into Bray's hands, which Bray proceeded to lose.
Click to expand...

Wow, I thought there were 11 players on offense and 11 players on defense. Yet, Bray LOST the game. Did he make mistakes, yes. Did he cost us the game, no. Stop blaming all of the losses on Bray because they were not all his fault. Maybe Manning would have won some of those games, but a QB like that comes along once in a lifetime.

If Bray leaves, you'll probably be wishing he were back when QB play next year is nowhere as good as it was this year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#78
#78
bray would not be a good fit for the oregonesque offense that gruden is going to implement here
 
#79
#79
Dont have to read stats to understand he is not a leader all he knows is that he has had NFL calibur receivers and to chuck it deep. Wait we dont give up sacks....thats because he wings it out of bounds cause hes planted in cement. When things dont do his way he hangs his head and it affects the rest of the team.

I for one dont want him back and if hes drafted in first two rounds I would be surprised, because hes gonna suck at the wonderlick and interviews. Just my opinion tho.
 
#80
#80
I'm not particularly a huge Bray fan...his attitude, ability to melt down in potential game winning drives, and his inability to move through his progression...but I agree with what others have said in that I would like to see what he could do with a coach that won't put up with his garbage. Under Gruden, we wouldn't see the drama queen/diva attitude and he would expected to show more output. Like it was mentioned on EA show today, stats don't mean anything...the game was placed in his hands on numerous occasions and he failed to deliver. Sure the defense screwed us, but Bray had the opportunity to tie or win a few games.
 
#84
#84
I don't want Bray back. So what if put up great stats while playing the toughest conference schedule in the league. What we needed was tackles, and even J. Worley had more tackles than he did. But let's not stop with Bray. Let's get rid of A. J., Big Dan, Maggett, Sentimore, and Randolf. They were part of the worst defense in the SEC so they must be garbage. And let's not forget about Tiny. He gave up the sack that cost us the S.C. game. See ya.
 
#86
#86
Dr Dread said:
I don't want Bray back. So what if put up great stats while playing the toughest conference schedule in the league. What we needed was tackles, and even J. Worley had more tackles than he did. But let's not stop with Bray. Let's get rid of A. J., Big Dan, Maggett, Sentimore, and Randolf. They were part of the worst defense in the SEC so they must be garbage. And let's not forget about Tiny. He gave up the sack that cost us the S.C. game. See ya.
Click to expand...
Big Dan is a keeper. Tiny is penalty prone, but a good kid. Randolph is legit, just got hurt covering for Teagues sorry ass in the UF game. Everything else is spot on :thumbsup: .
 
#87
#87
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want him back. A new coach an make all the difference in the world. Hell who saw Compton getting drafted.
 
#88
#88
winsec said:
you can't see the forrest for the trees.THE ONLY STAT THAT MATTERS OR WILL EVER MATTER IS WINS AND LOSES. THAT IS ALL. i WILL TALK SLOWER. W-I-N-S OR L-O-S-E-S. 1-7 as the starting qb. did he throw up some good numbers yes, did he lead his team in the 4th quarter to wins Hell No. will the new coaching staff teach him to be better under pressure? that is the question.
Click to expand...

people like you are idiots. yes the most imporant thing is wins...but do you want him to go play defense too?

i hate how much credit qb's get, and i also hate how much they get blamed for things out of their control.
 
#89
#89
jps2194 said:
It wouldn't have been on his shoulders to win if we had a decent defense. That is a fact that cannot be disputed.
Click to expand...

What more can be asked??????? Here is the ball, you have 1 drive to win against a top 10 team on the road, TWICE!!!!!! what am I missing. I guess Aaron Rodgers can use your logic too.
 
Last edited:
#90
#90
UTvolinBGKY said:
What more can be asked??????? Here is the ball, you have 1 drive to win against a top 10 team on the road, TWICE!!!!!! what am I missing. I guess Aaron Rodgers can use you logic too.
Click to expand...

What you are missing is he is a very good QB. Okay, maybe he didn't close out those games, but he IS NOT the reason we lost.

I can understand if you only point is that he is not superstar status because he didn't close out a couple of games. But to deny that he is a very good QB because he didn't lead them to victory is ridiculous. Even the best QB's don't always make that happen.

Does he need better leadership skills, yes. Given one more year of maturity and a better defense, i would expect him to have a great year next year. But you would rather toss him aside and start with somebody completely unproven and zero experience. That makes no sense and that is the point you are missing.

Also, check out Rodger's college stats vs. Bray's, no comparison. It's ridiculous to compare a seasoned NFL player to a jr. in college.:crazy:
 
Last edited:
#91
#91
I want him to stay but he's gonna have to lose the attitude and get his mind right. This is where we need coach cutt. When the breaks go against you man up, keep your head, step up and lead.

"Don't let up put on more steam" -Game Maxims
 
#92
#92
Coach Grizz said:
I want him to stay but he's gonna have to lose the attitude and get his mind right. This is where we need coach cutt. When the breaks go against you man up, keep your head, step up and lead.

"Don't let up put on more steam" -Game Maxims
Click to expand...

Well said.
 
#93
#93
My faith has been restored. 85% of Volnation wants Bray back. I'm not sure why the other 15% want a brand new QB with zero experience.
:confused:
 
#94
#94
jps2194 said:
What you are missing is he is a very good QB. Okay, maybe he didn't close out those games, but he IS NOT the reason we lost.

I can understand if you only point is that he is not superstar status because he didn't close out a couple of games. But to deny that he is a very good QB because he didn't lead them to victory is ridiculous. Even the best QB's don't always make that happen.

Does he need better leadership skills, yes. Given one more year of maturity and a better defense, i would expect him to have a great year next year. But you would rather toss him aside and start with somebody completely unproven and zero experience. That makes no sense and that is the point you are missing.

Also, check out Rodger's college stats vs. Bray's, no comparison. It's ridiculous to compare a seasoned NFL player to a jr. in college.:crazy:
Click to expand...

He has never won a big game, or any game for that matter worth winning. He has had 3 years to mature, how many does he need? QB's are measured on how they do under pressure, and he has repeatedly. Thats how you measure QB's not by putting it off on the D.
 
#95
#95
UTvolinBGKY said:
He has never won a big game, or any game for that matter worth winning. He has had 3 years to mature, how many does he need? QB's are measured on how they do under pressure, and he has repeatedly. Thats how you measure QB's not by putting it off on the D.
Click to expand...

Wins or losses do not come down to 1 player. I admit he can definitely improve, but he is not the reason we lost 7 games. As a matter of fact, we probably lose against Troy without him.

I'll put you in the 15% that believes starting with a QB with zero experience is better than a proven and talented QB who needs to grow and mature. :crazy:
 
#96
#96
jps2194 said:
What you can't deny; however, is he had a great season:
Yds passing - 3,612, #1 SEC, #10 FBS
TD's - 34, #1 SEC, tied for #6 FBS
INT's - 12, of the top 10 in TD's, 5 had more pics than Bray so he was middle of the pack.
Click to expand...

The stats you gave are a little misleading.

He did throw 34 tds this season, but only 19 of them came against SEC competition. He threw 15 of the 34 tds against OOC schools and 1 interception, so 11 of the 12 ints. came against SEC teams.

So, against the SEC he had 19 tds/11 ints this season.

In his career at UT against SEC teams he's thrown 34 tds/23 ints.

I could post the numbers for Crompton, Ainge and Casey Clausen...instead I'll put it this way: If you want Bray to come back, then Crompton and Ainge deserved a more fond farewell...Crompton had the exact same completion % as Bray vs. SEC teams (53.7%). Bray's passer rating(124.1) vs. SEC teams is nearly identical to Ainge's (123.9)...Clausen is ahead of Bray in about every category 60.9 completion %, 2362 more yards, 52 tds/21 ints and a passer rating of 142.7 vs. SEC teams over his career.

If Chaney continued on as OC, Bray would pass Clausen in yards, but there's no indication that his completion% would rise or that he'd be less inclined to commit turnovers when he's under pressure.

I'd like to see if another coach might be able to help him, like Kiffin did with Crompton, but I'm not sure Bray is open to trying something new, 50-50 shot at best.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#97
#97
Dr Dread said:
I don't want Bray back. So what if put up great stats while playing the toughest conference schedule in the league. What we needed was tackles, and even J. Worley had more tackles than he did. But let's not stop with Bray. Let's get rid of A. J., Big Dan, Maggett, Sentimore, and Randolf. They were part of the worst defense in the SEC so they must be garbage. And let's not forget about Tiny. He gave up the sack that cost us the S.C. game. See ya.
Click to expand...

Bray is a loser, literally.

get over it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#98
#98
Monkey Wrench said:
people like you are idiots. yes the most imporant thing is wins...but do you want him to go play defense too?

i hate how much credit qb's get, and i also hate how much they get blamed for things out of their control.
Click to expand...

name calling. so cool.
 
#99
#99
jps2194 said:
What you are missing is he is a very good QB. Okay, maybe he didn't close out those games, but he IS NOT the reason we lost.

I can understand if you only point is that he is not superstar status because he didn't close out a couple of games. But to deny that he is a very good QB because he didn't lead them to victory is ridiculous. Even the best QB's don't always make that happen.

Does he need better leadership skills, yes. Given one more year of maturity and a better defense, i would expect him to have a great year next year. But you would rather toss him aside and start with somebody completely unproven and zero experience. That makes no sense and that is the point you are missing.

Also, check out Rodger's college stats vs. Bray's, no comparison. It's ridiculous to compare a seasoned NFL player to a jr. in college.:crazy:
Click to expand...

maybe? did you watch those games?
 
#100
#100
Obviously not. He is satisfied with his unrelenting Tyler Bray love. I guess when Bray gets invited to the Heistman Ceremony he may go ahead and load his britches. Front and back.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top