Bruce Feldman and Tim Brando criticize the SEC's handling of LSU/Florida

[LSU-SIU]

if they did, and FL turned it down, then why on Earth is that not the only thing being discussed? that's the equivalent of a smoking gun.

Florida didn't turn anything down. They just continued with the 11 a.m. kickoff knowing that they could cancel on Thursday. There was nobody demanding Florida make a decision. The game was never going to be played on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, etc.

Florida didn't want to play the game. Your assumptions that Florida turned something down is most probably wrong... all they did was keep the existing schedule.

 

[jakez4ut]

that's still just an opinion from an LSU guy that has done nothing but bait people on this board with your "florida's plan worked flawlessly" garbage.

there was no grand plan. just 3 people that failed miserably, and have allowed the possibility of this narrative to be entertained.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Its going to get worked out. But in any event the notion that we jockeyed around the dates because of the hurricane to try to miss a home game (which is huge money) is just so ridiculous it is no longer worthy of comment. I mean, that claim is just utter nonsense.

LG I think most reasonable people agree the first priority is safety of all people invoked and I'm sure that was UFs primary concern. However once that was alleviated I absolutely believe Foley is working the current situation to UFs advantage. And the inconsistency in not cancelling ALL events only adds to the tin foil hat theories. One could even argue Foley is negligent in his duties if he does not do so.

And I know your smarter than to listen to this idiot LSU homer and his victim theories. All he is doing is stoking flames and you know that.

 

[NorthDallas40]

that's still just an opinion from an LSU guy that has done nothing but bait people on this board with your "florida's plan worked flawlessly" garbage.

there was no grand plan. just 3 people that failed miserably, and have allowed the possibility of this narrative to be entertained.

Now you're getting it!! 👍

 

[LSU-SIU]

that's still just an opinion from an LSU guy that has done nothing but bait people on this board with your "florida's plan worked flawlessly" garbage.

there was no grand plan. just 3 people that failed miserably, and have allowed the possibility of this narrative to be entertained.

It's not an opinion. All Florida did was... nothing.

If Florida did anything more than nothing, I would love to see it. ( they sent out a press release saying the game was sit set for Saturday) lol:

Florida scammed Tennessee by doing.... nothing.

No he is not getting it, the plan worked flawlessly and he still doesn't know how. lol:

 

[MockingVol]

Its going to get worked out. But in any event the notion that we jockeyed around the dates because of the hurricane to try to miss a home game (which is huge money) is just so ridiculous it is no longer worthy of comment. I mean, that claim is just utter nonsense.



If you live in Jax I'm a little surprised at your dismissiveness of what could have happened had the storm gone 50 miles west of where it did.

So is Foley incompetent then? Because if Foley unknowingly let this situation develop it signifies incompetency. Having seen what Foley has done as AD over the years, I highly doubt he would be this incompetent. Foley is one of the greatest ADs in the entirety of college sports. And any competent AD would have a plan in place to play the game.

The greatest lie the devil ever told is that he doesn't exist.

 

[jakez4ut]

LG I think most reasonable people agree the first priority is safety of all people invoked and I'm sure that was UFs primary concern. However once that was alleviated I absolutely believe Foley is working the current situation to UFs advantage. And the inconsistency in not cancelling ALL events only adds to the tin foil hat theories. One could even argue Foley is negligent in his duties if he does not do so.

And I know your smarter than to listen to this idiot LSU homer and his victim theories. All he is doing is stoking flames and you know that.

i get what you're saying, i've said i don't think there was a grand plan when all this started....i do think that the 1st priority was the safety of all involved.

but now that we are where are, there is no incentive for FL to play the game. does that mean they're still actively trying to prevent it? who knows. but they're not actively doing anything to play it either. and neither is LSU. and the SEC has not given them any reason to.

that can't be debated. it's still a complete failure on all parties involved.

 

[LSU-SIU]

that can't be debated. it's still a complete failure on all parties involved.

The only party at fault, technically, is the SEC. They had a duty to mitigate the damages or outcome i.e. force Florida to make a decision or series of decisions. Keep thinking this wasn't done on purpose, I said it was well over a week ago, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.lol:

 

[CobbVol]

A UT win this weekend or a FL loss will dilute this issue. If either or these events happen, and if I were LSU, I would then tell Florida to pound sand regarding the game and let them scramble on their own to make up any loss revenue they may have.

My interest would only return on Nov 7th if LSU is 2-0 versus Ole Miss and Alabama.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The only party at fault, technically, is the SEC. They had a duty to mitigate the damages or outcome i.e. force Florida to make a decision or series of decisions. Keep thinking this wasn't done on purpose, I said it was well over a week ago, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.lol:

Incorrect. Both parties have a duty to work to an amicable resolution on a reschedule. LSU cannot stone wall any solution and have their hands clean that is a clearly stated duty to the two institutions. And LSU cannot indefinitely play the victim card and take their football and go home.

And UT could easily argue damages against LSU acting in bad faith going forward in not resolving this.

Any sensible and reasonable individual can clearly see this. LSU is no longer a victim of the do not work to resolve their duty outlined in the bylaws.

You are simply wrong. But that doesn't fit your flame bait trolling narrative.

 

[jakez4ut]

The only party at fault, technically, is the SEC. They had a duty to mitigate the damages or outcome i.e. force Florida to make a decision or series of decisions. Keep thinking this wasn't done on purpose, I said it was well over a week ago, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.lol:

like i said, i don't think there was any grand plan to begin with. But if so, then that just makes Foley a despicable human being.

but...now that we are where we are, i again simply say....they may not be actively trying to prevent the game, as you said, by doing nothing at this point....they most certainly aren't doing anything to play it either.

and neither is Alleva or LSU. the notion that he has no culpability here is also laughable. his accountability level may be 3rd out of the three, but he is a part of this. Monday was never offered, by anyone. he could have hung FL out to dry if it was, and he could have gone to the SEC and forced the issue with that information....if playing the game was a priority for LSU.

remember, TN threatened to forfeit the 05 game in order not to go down on Saturday or Sunday. LSU didn't want to play on Monday. So TN forced the issue, Slive got involved, told everyone where to be and when, and the game got played.

so all of this allows the possibility that this narrative to exist, and for you to troll this board the way you have.

but just don't forget, it's still the school's that have the first responsibility to resolve scheduling conflicts. they failed to do that. and the SEC has failed to make them make it happen. and no one had contingencies for the "if/thens" based on on the results of the storm.

none of that is really in question at this point. plan or not, it's still a failure by all to resolve it.

so you can stick to your "florida's plan to screw TN worked", and ill stick to my "everybody sucks in this situation", and we'll agree to disagree.:thumbsup:

 

[MockingVol]

There isn't a scenario where UF would be advantaged to play the game. If we beat Bama, then they have a ~1% chance to win the East so it doesn't even matter to them. If we lose, then UF would want as few chances to lose as possible.

 

[NorthDallas40]

but just don't forget, it's still the school's that have the first responsibility to resolve scheduling conflicts. they failed to do that. and the SEC has failed to make them make it happen. and no one had contingencies for the "if/thens" based on on the results of the storm.

Absolutely 100% correct and if either party going forward does not actively work to resolve it they are negotiating in bad faith.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Incorrect. Both parties have a duty to work to an amicable resolution on a reschedule.

You know what Florida has done... nothing.
You know what Florida did last week... nothing.
You know what Florida will do this week... nothing.
You know what Florida has to do if the SEC doesn't force them.... nothing.

Let me guess, you want Florida to start calling penalties during the game on themselves? "He guys, I was holding on the play, we (Florida) need to move the ball back 10 yards" lol:

"Hey court clerk, I ran a stop sign, I'm sorry, here's $200" Haha.

 

[LSU-SIU]

There isn't a scenario where UF would be advantaged to play the game. If we beat Bama, then they have a ~1% chance to win the East so it doesn't even matter to them. If we lose, then UF would want as few chances to lose as possible.

Depends on what the SEC does going forward. That is why Florida is neither throwing out ideas or even considering any proposals.

When people say Florida is rejecting proposals, if you see it from their POV... they are not doing that... they are waiting.

I don't think any of this matters in the end though. I would still pick Vols v Gumps for the SECCG

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

So.... foley is sitting there... Tennessee loses to TAM.... if Tennessee loses to Alabama well now he has to get to work because I think logically you want the division champ to be on all games not just divisional games as the Vols would be 0-2 against the West.

So, Florida's goal at that point is I think win 2 of 3 against LSU, Arkansas, or Georgia.

That is assuming UF beats Missouri this week. Then next week I would think UF might be willing to play LSU, but to me Foley is controlling this whole thing and by the SEC waiting once again it is putting Foley in charge.

They lose one of those three and if we lose to AL we both have 2 losses and we hold the tiebreaker over them.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Its going to get worked out. But in any event the notion that we jockeyed around the dates because of the hurricane to try to miss a home game (which is huge money) is just so ridiculous it is no longer worthy of comment. I mean, that claim is just utter nonsense.

If Foley can back in to the SECCG by canceling this game the least of his worries is money from the home game. The SECCG probably pays twice as much as a home game would make at FL.

 

[LSU-SIU]

They lose one of those three and if we lose to AL we both have 2 losses and we hold the tiebreaker over them.

Yeah, they would still need more help or go 3 for 3.

 

[lawgator1]

So is Foley incompetent then? Because if Foley unknowingly let this situation develop it signifies incompetency. Having seen what Foley has done as AD over the years, I highly doubt he would be this incompetent. Foley is one of the greatest ADs in the entirety of college sports. And any competent AD would have a plan in place to play the game.

The greatest lie the devil ever told is that he doesn't exist.

No, I don't think there's a master plan at work. I think it's just difficult to work out how best to reschedule it given all of the factors involved. Why people think it's easy just to reschedule a game involving literally 100,000 people and tens of millions of dollars overall is beyond me. This is going to take more than a few conference calls.

 

[MockingVol]

No, I don't think there's a master plan at work. I think it's just difficult to work out how best to reschedule it given all of the factors involved. Why people think it's easy just to reschedule a game involving literally 100,000 people and tens of millions of dollars overall is beyond me. This is going to take more than a few conference calls.

So you are saying Foley is incompetent then... well, alright. I've never seen anything to suggest such.

Foley is either incompetent or has alterior motives, there is no middle ground.

 

[lawgator1]

So you are saying Foley is incompetent then... well, alright. I've never seen anything to suggest such.

Foley is either incompetent or has alterior motives, there is no middle ground.

You should practice reading comprehension more as you are terrible at it.

 

[lawgator1]

Your spelling is also in need of work.

 

[allvol123]

Will the Coward Bowl ever be played?

 

[NorthDallas40]

You know what Florida has done... nothing.
You know what Florida did last week... nothing.
You know what Florida will do this week... nothing.
You know what Florida has to do if the SEC doesn't force them.... nothing.

Let me guess, you want Florida to start calling penalties during the game on themselves? "He guys, I was holding on the play, we (Florida) need to move the ball back 10 yards" lol:

"Hey court clerk, I ran a stop sign, I'm sorry, here's $200" Haha.

Does nothing to absolve LSUs responsibility in the situation. And you know it. Which is why you answered with this absolutely useless content post.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Your spelling is also in need of work.

Really dude? You think playing the grammar card helps here LG?