BSU VS VT Time: 8 p.m. Monday, Sept. 6, FedEx Field (91,704),

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Bryan1 said:
Well if thats the toughest schedule they can get, then they should never deserve a BCS title shot.
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Don't be an idiot. If every team doesn't have a chance to win a championship, then it really isn't a sport but rather a pageant.
 
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IPorange said:
Examples?
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Alabama, Ohio State, and although the jury is out on a couple, I'm sure at least a couple other teams will emerge. I'm not saying they would all go unbeaten, but there are definitely teams who could say their odds were better than 50/50 on a neutral site.
 
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TrueOrange said:
how many free games are they allowed to scedule? they could probably get more than just 1 "big game" on their schedule each season
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You're right. They have two. They also have Oregon State.

You and others don't get it. They have to BEG to get these games. They agreed to travel 2300 miles to play in VT's backyard, with no return trip. That's ridiculous. Many teams flat out WON'T play them because they have nothing to gain.
 
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TrueOrange said:
how many free games are they allowed to scedule? they could probably get more than just 1 "big game" on their schedule each season
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They are playing 2 bcs conference teams in their ooc schedule. What more do you want?
 
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Volst53 said:
After watching this game, If they win out I wouldn't mind them playing for the NC. Do I think they are as deep as a SEC or PAC 10 team and could handle the grind of a BCS conference? No, not really, but they also can take WAC level players and give anyone in the country a game as well. They're well coached, disciplined, and a tough football team.
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Agree - they were as physical as VT. Could they be that physical throughout a season? Both teams made critical mistakes so it's hard to know how good either can be.

One thing is clear - they are winners and Peterson is a great coach.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Alabama, Ohio State, and although the jury is out on a couple, I'm sure at least a couple other teams will emerge.
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Ohio State would have a better chance to beat LSU or Georgia? Not so sure.

And to be consistent, do you see Ohio State winning many SEC championships?

I don't.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
The week in and week out grind of the SEC schedule would eventually wear on them. Aside from obvious losses to UF and Bama who are simply superior teams talent wise, UGA, Arkansas and LSU could likely take them as well.
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I would pick BSU over Arkansas outright, and as I said, Petersen is ten times the coach Miles is.

volinbham said:
Technically you are correct.

But BSU has 20 starters back from a team that beat OU pretty soundly.

Has OU significantly upgraded? Don't know but Massoli is gone and it's hard to imagine the new guy is better.
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Not right now due to inexperience, but I think Thomas will be better than Masoli by seasons end.

tvolsfan said:
That's the thing. Most national title contenders would have odds considerably better than that.
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I said at least 50/50, implying better than that against most teams.
 
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IPorange said:
Don't be an idiot. If every team doesn't have a chance to win a championship, then it really isn't a sport but rather a pageant.
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I agree with bleed's statement above, and dont call me an idiot. I got my opinion and you got yours, but thats no reason to resort to childish name calling!
 
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IPorange said:
Don't be an idiot. If every team doesn't have a chance to win a championship, then it really isn't a sport but rather a pageant.
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If this were an 8 or 16 team playoff system, I would have no problem with Boise being included. I have absolutely no doubt that they would be put firmly back in their place if they were forced to play top competition for several games in a row.

However, the purpose of the BCS is to pit the 2 best teams in the nation against one another. Surely no one in their right mind is really going to try to make the argument that Boise is one of those teams. Thereby, they don't belong in the BCSNCG.
 
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IPorange said:
Ohio State would have a better chance to beat LSU or Georgia? Not so sure.

And to be consistent, do you see Ohio State winning many SEC championships?

I don't.
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You don't have to compete in the SEC to be better than the WAC.

Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State and Wisconsin would roll over the WAC with ease.

Can't forget Michigan this year. I'd like see anyone not named Boise State try to stop Robinson. Michigan would put up 50 every week.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Either join a BCS conference or just be out of luck. Why does everyone try to act like its some sort of manifest destiny that Boise should get a shot at the NC? If you spend 90% of your season playing teams that are in the bottom third of D-1 you don't deserve to play for a championship, simple as that.
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50-4 over the last 4 years, two BCS bowl wins, legit victories over top ranked teams, 29 straight regular season wins...I think if they go undefeated AGAIN this year they have proved themselves worthy. Too much fuss is made over their schedule. If that isn't enough to earn them a shot because they play in a weak conference then Division I CFB is a sham. We might as well have 4 power conferences with 30 teams in each one.
 
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IPorange said:
Ohio State would have a better chance to beat LSU or Georgia? Not so sure.

And to be consistent, do you see Ohio State winning many SEC championships?

I don't.
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Not many, but certainly more than Boise would. OSU could probably play Tennessee's schedule and come through with a couple losses. I can't see Boise playing Oregon, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina in a span like Tennessee and escaping with less than 3 losses.
 
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This implication that S. Carolina is better than BSU just because they play in the SEC is stupid.
 
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rjd970 said:
50-4 over the last 4 years, two BCS bowl wins, legit victories over top ranked teams, 29 straight regular season wins...I think if they go undefeated AGAIN this year they have proved themselves worthy. Too much fuss is made over their schedule. If that isn't enough to earn them a shot because they play in a weak conference then Division I CFB is a sham. We might as well have 4 power conferences with 30 teams in each one.
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How in the world does 4-5 good victories in the past 4 years warrant a shot at a NC? Even if they lose a game this year, Bama will have 4-5 good wins THIS SEASON.
 
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Bryan1 said:
I agree with bleed's statement above, and dont call me an idiot. I got my opinion and you got yours, but thats no reason to resort to childish name calling!
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I didn't call you an idiot. I just advised against being one.

It's a stupid argument, because all they can do is win the games on their schedule. And they are. If you don't like it, complain about the BCS system, not the team.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

That's where the idiot thing is coming from. Understand the bigger picture.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
If this were an 8 or 16 team playoff system, I would have no problem with Boise being included. I have absolutely no doubt that they would be put firmly back in their place if they were forced to play top competition for several games in a row.

However, the purpose of the BCS is to pit the 2 best teams in the nation against one another. Surely no one in their right mind is really going to try to make the argument that Boise is one of those teams. Thereby, they don't belong in the BCSNCG.
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After one week of play, I find fault with that logic. They easily had the most impressive win thus far.
 
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