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#951
#951
Bumi said:
I don't know. I have a feeling that Boise getting into the BCS title game will cause an uproar amongst coaches the likes of which have never been seen. The push for a playoff will increase dramatically.
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I see...so the rules are only valid when they work in your favor. When they actually work like they should the system needs to be scrapped. Beautiful.

I, on the other hand, have a feeling it will be the catalyst for an even more unfair system.
 
#952
#952
IPorange said:
They aren't playing only one tough game. And if their athletes are so inferior as to be so unable to compete week in and out in a BCS conference, are those "cupcake" teams really "cupcakes" in comparision?

Which is it, are they inferior or are they not?

If you don't like the scheduling of current BCS system NCAA football, that's a totally different argument than saying a particular team deserves no shot under any conditions because they aren't in one of the elite conferences they have no way of being in.
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You don't have to be Mike Tyson to beat up a crippled kid. It's possible to be very average and still have great success in the WAC. This was one of the main reasons DD's record at La Tech bothered me so much. It's not as if the bar is set real high.
 
#953
#953
IPorange said:
And I'm pretty sure your feelings have no bearing on the factual merits of a team getting a chance at a championship. You brought up your emotions or whatever, not me.
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I'm basing my feelings on the subject on what I've seen, not on what I want to see.
 
#954
#954
tvolsfan said:
I'm pretty sure I'm free to argue that I think Boise State gets more credit than they deserve. I'm pretty sure no one here will be voting in the polls, but it doesn't mean they can't talk about it.
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And I'm free to contend this is a silly argument.
 
#958
#958
Well, if Boise St. gets to the NC, maybe we'll find out if they deserved it or not. I don't know.
 
#959
#959
bleedorange0037 said:
You don't have to be Mike Tyson to beat up a crippled kid. It's possible to be very average and still have great success in the WAC. This was one of the main reasons DD's record at La Tech bothered me so much. It's not as if the bar is set real high.
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At the same time, an average team doesn't beat Oregon two years in a row, and then beat VT 2300 miles away from home in VT's backyard. An average team doesn't rack up the kind of record BSU has the last few years. An average team doesn't cause this kind of discussion, does it?
 
#960
#960
Slydell said:
Well, if Boise St. gets to the NC, maybe we'll find out if they deserved it or not. I don't know.
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Exactly.

Saying they don't deserve it de facto because they play an easy schedule is nonsense IMO.
 
#961
#961
Winning 2 quality games a year still does not make you deserve it. But hey, just win.
 
#962
#962
Slydell said:
Well, if Boise St. gets to the NC, maybe we'll find out if they deserved it or not. I don't know.
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Losing the NT in no way indicates they didn't deserve a shot. NO WAY.

By that logic, no team that loses the NT ever deserved a shot.
 
#963
#963
lol at the comparison of BSU to a crippled kid, and the SEC or whatever is Mike Tyson.
 
#964
#964
rjd970 said:
I see...so the rules are only valid when they work in your favor. When they actually work like they should the system needs to be scrapped. Beautiful.

I, on the other hand, have a feeling it will be the catalyst for an even more unfair system.
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Good. If the current system allows Boise to play for a NC with the schedule they play, then clearly what we have in place is not working. What is even the point of playing in a good conference?

That's what makes the SEC great, if you emerge as a champion, it's obvious you are one of the best if not THE best team in the nation.
 
#965
#965
XtennesseeX said:
Who would take them? Other than football, they offer nothing to the Pac-10 - therefore they're not taking them. It was thought before Utah bolted for the Pac-10, and BYU went independent - that the MWC was going to get a BCS automatic bid. What other conference would take them?

What can they do?
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Utah and BYU left because Boise St. was coming in...SCARED!!!!!
 
#968
#968
bleedorange0037 said:
Good. If the current system allows Boise to play for a NC with the schedule they play, then clearly what we have in place is not working. What is even the point of playing in a good conference?

That's what makes the SEC great, if you emerge as a champion, it's obvious you are one of the best if not THE best team in the nation.
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And again, what's the point of BSU even fielding a team?

This is amateur sports, who needs fairness?
 
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#969
IPorange said:
At the same time, an average team doesn't beat Oregon two years in a row, and then beat VT 2300 miles away from home in VT's backyard. An average team doesn't rack up the kind of record BSU has the last few years. An average team doesn't cause this kind of discussion, does it?
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An average team, no, but I'm sure more than a couple teams would go unbeaten playing Boise's schedule this year. I'm not saying the system is fair to Boise, or that it's their fault they don't play a harder schedule, because it's not. I just believe that other teams contending for the national title this year will have a much harder time going unbeaten.
 
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#970
IPorange said:
At the same time, an average team doesn't beat Oregon two years in a row, and then beat VT 2300 miles away from home in VT's backyard. An average team doesn't rack up the kind of record BSU has the last few years. An average team doesn't cause this kind of discussion, does it?
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Yes. Oregon was far from a "great" team the past two seasons.

Yes. The team knew tonight was their season, as opposed to VT who will see several other challenging games this year.

Yes. They play a schedule comprised of 90% hapless competition.

Yes. The integrity of college football is being challenged by a team who plays one game a year and it pisses people off who want to see the 2 best teams battle it out at the end of the year.
 
#971
#971
So you would agree that BSU going undefeated with thier strength of schedule would deserve a shot at a title game over a 1 loss team from any BCS conference team?
 
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rjd970 said:
And again, what's the point of BSU even fielding a team?

This is amateur sports, who needs fairness?
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But how is it fair to OSU or Bama or UF or Texas or whoever that played the best d-1 had to offer and still gets passed over to allow a team who played no one a shot at a title simply because they didn't lose?
 
#973
#973
tvolsfan said:
An average team, no, but I'm sure more than a couple teams would go unbeaten playing Boise's schedule this year. I'm not saying the system is fair to Boise, or that it's their fault they don't play a harder schedule, because it's not. I just believe that other teams contending for the national title this year will have a much harder time going unbeaten.
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we also all have to remember, you can't put a team in the national title based on what they have done the previous year or past few years;

it has to be based on what they do this year
 
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#974
#974
ok...Really...what if Boise State gets into the NC game..AND WINS..then what?
what does the BCS do with a non BCS champion?
Boise has already proved a few time's that they CAN beat a BCS contender. what does the BCS do with a Boise or TCU when they win it all?
 
#975
#975
People just don't like the unknown. Boise is the equivalent of looking online for a restaurant, and finding one with one great review. Do you take a risk with it? One person liked it. Then you think back to that one restaurant that was supposed to be real good but you went and it sucked (Hawaii/UGA in 07). Or that other restaurant you ate at that you think was good but was too ****ed up to remember (boise/OU). Or that other restaurant that you just cancelled the reservation because you weren't real excited about the people you were going with (boise/TCU). After awhile, you just end up saying **** it and going to a place you know is pretty good (BCS school).
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