Butch Davis

Just wanting to know. You said he had SEC type talent but never posted a winning ACC record at UNC. Something doesn't add up.
The shat hit the fan before it could bear fruit. You can blame him for that or you can wait for the official word on Davis' involvement.
 
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Just wanting to know. You said he had SEC type talent but never posted a winning ACC record at UNC. Something doesn't add up.

The arguement you are making isn't the same I'm making. Compared to coaches who aren't available he wouldn't be the best. Compared to who is available he is the best option.

No one is trying to make it out that Butch is the next Saban, but compared to the other options he is the best out there available.
 
The arguement you are making isn't the same I'm making. Compared to coaches who aren't available he wouldn't be the best. Compared to who is available he is the best option.

No one is trying to make it out that Butch is the next Saban, but compared to the other options he is the best out there available.

I'd take Fedora or Strong over him any day.
 
Because neither of them have lost to a bad team.

Didn't say that at all. You just made it seem like he had Florida and Alabama type talent on D, but he never won big in the ACC. Something doesn't add up. Fedora and Strong are the best two hires we can make for the long-term of this program. Both would do great things here.
 
I think Fedora and Davis are close. Fedora is a bit more of a gamble, but could turn out to be a home run. Davis would be solid from day 1 IMO. Not sure Fedora would bail on UNC after 1 year and Davis could start right away. Come on Hart, hire a coach and let's get this thing going!
 
The arguement you are making isn't the same I'm making. Compared to coaches who aren't available he wouldn't be the best. Compared to who is available he is the best option.

No one is trying to make it out that Butch is the next Saban, but compared to the other options he is the best out there available.

I dread Dooley 2.0.
 
What exactly did he do with UNC other than recruit a bunch of good players and never get above .500 in the ACC? The ACC . The ACC. Let that sink in. Butch is not a good gameday coach. Period.

oh I dont know, Made UNC a RELEVANT FOOTBALL team, FOOTBALL team, let THAT sink in. He had the most players taken in the NFL draft his final season, AND you cant say he couldn't win with great players. He recruited GREAT players, problem was alot of them were suspended most of the season, its no wonder they didnt win. You think UT would have won as many (or few if you look at it like that) as we did if Bray, Hunter, and CP were suspended?
 
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oh I dont know, Made UNC a RELEVANT FOOTBALL team, FOOTBALL team, let THAT sink in. He had the most players taken in the NFL draft his final season, AND you cant say he couldn't win with great players. He recruited GREAT players, problem was alot of them were suspended most of the season, its no wonder they didnt win. You think UT would have won as many (or few if you look at it like that) as we did if Bray, Hunter, and CP were suspended?

Football coach would be lucky to get a parking space and a cafeteria pass.
 
I think Fedora and Davis are close. Fedora is a bit more of a gamble, but could turn out to be a home run. Davis would be solid from day 1 IMO. Not sure Fedora would bail on UNC after 1 year and Davis could start right away. Come on Hart, hire a coach and let's get this thing going!

Wow, I agree with everything in this post. Spot on.
 
Name the coach besides Gruden that can reach into the NFL and college ranks to put a staff together.

Name the coach besides Gruden who can show recruits a superbowl ring ( Butch has two).

Name the coach who has put more players in the NFL than Butch.


When I say name the coach I mean one of the coaches who has been mentioned for the UT job.
 
Name the coach besides Gruden that can reach into the NFL and college ranks to put a staff together.

Name the coach besides Gruden who can show recruits a superbowl ring ( Butch has two).

Name the coach who has put more players in the NFL than Butch.


When I say name the coach I mean one of the coaches who has been mentioned for the UT job.
Name coaches that have been in as much trouble as Butch
 
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