Butch Jones embraces team chaplain Tim Miller

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OrangeInKy said:
1. It doesn't "bother" me, it saddens me. I have many people in my life who don't believe what I do, but I don't insist they conform, nor do I with you. However, you keep using recycled clichés about Christianity like calling it magic or a crutch, so I feel compelled to state what it really is. Atheist Penn Gillette said that if a Christian really believes the Gospel, it's the most hateful thing ever to not tell someone who doesn't believe. It doesn't bother me that you don't believe from an insecurity standpoint, it bothers me that you'd rather post the same rhetoric Bill Maher and Ricky Gervais use and not really have anything of substance to back it up. When we offer substance for our belief, you balk and say we are upset you won't conform. How bout just say you don't believe and leave it there without the insults. When you say what you do, I am absolutely going to tell you what our faith is because t saddens me you think it's a "crutch".

2. You say you couldn't care less(you actually said "could") but I got it, yet you can't help but making silly comments insulting the faith. It obviously bothers you. Something tells me you'd be on the Arian Foster atheist thread calling out people insulting his unbelief. It's simple, share what you do and don't believe but have enough tact to not make a trite (and uneducated) comment about another's belief.

3. If you're interested, I'd happily purchase and send you some incredible writings or videos explaining your "why" question. Guys like Ravi Zacharias, who travels the world facing sceptics and answering questions like this. Like I aid, the offer is there. Believe or don't believe, but I believe which is why I care about your beliefs. I believe too much hangs in the balance. If you ever want responses to questions like "is Christianity is a crutch" instead of just repeating it all the time, I will send to you. It may not change a thing, but you may understand more about the faith.
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Buddy I appreciate your sadness and your offer to send me religious "manifesto". I will however have to decline your offer. I will not be sending you books on any of my beliefs or offering to. I don't want to conform you..... You could just respect the fact that I don't believe in what is, if you are being honest, magic. In the end you and I will find out what is fact and what is not. I am comfortable knowing that. I am as educated as you are on the subject. You simply cannot get off the high horse and see my end. I am sad for you.
 
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i still don't understand why some of you care enough to even comment on it. no one would be spewing or trying to get you to conform if you didn't post some of the stuff you did in the first place? i don't get it.

it'd be like me going to a bama board, start posting stuff like "i'm sad you're a bama fan, but stop telling me how great you are".

at some point, you have to really ask yourselves, who's fault is it really you're so offended....???
 
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volfannbama said:
Im a baptist, for whatever being a baptist means, still havent figured that out. I attend a baptist church i guess is the right way to say it.
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Heres how the wifey explains the denominations

At the liquor store....

A Baptist will stare at your chest all while pretending not to see you.
A Methodist will nod "hey" and walk straight to the booze
A Presbyterian will chit chat and stare at your chest before heading to the booze.
 
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JacketVol said:
If you study the Word and if those bad people did as well, then all would realize it doesn't work that way.
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Why would I study a book that was written by a man on how to live my life unless it was Tony Robbins or Barack Obama? Seriously? You guys need to chill. Believe what YOU want. I will do the same. It is ridiculous and only proving what I believe to be the case in some of these holier than thou comments.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Heres how the wifey explains the denominations

At the liquor store....

A Baptist will stare at your chest all while pretending not to see you.
A Methodist will nod "hey" and walk straight to the booze
A Presbyterian will chit chat and stare at your chest before heading to the booze.
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Yeah, heard all the drinking jokes. Never understood the separation of people that believe samenthing. Much like everywhere else in the world, we want to overcomplicate everything with nonsense.
 
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bray2milton said:
Why would I study a book that was written by a man on how to live my life unless it was Tony Robbins or Barack Obama? Seriously? You guys need to chill. Believe what YOU want. I will do the same. It is ridiculous and only proving what I believe to be the case in some of these holier than thou comments.
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Obama..? Lol

That explains alot. Bless your heart
 
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OneVolNation said:
Coach Jones should also be commended for embracing team Chaplain Miller. It is setting the house on the rock for a firm foundation. We've seen how the winds of adversity blow with changing situations and seasons. The house that is built on the rock shall stand.
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Meanwhile, Saban is sacrificing a virgin to Satan for his latest #1 recruiting class.
 
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I don't have an issue with it, but I wouldn't have an issue if he brought in a rabbi, imam, Buddhist... Whatever they are called either.
 
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bray2milton said:
I figured it would draw someone out. How could I guess it would be you. LOL. Guess you are a bible thumping Trump supporter. And in other news 2+2=4.
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No not a Trump supporter, not much of a bible Thumper either, i read and try to live it the best i can. Nice try though
 
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bray2milton said:
Why would I study a book that was written by a man on how to live my life unless it was Tony Robbins or Barack Obama? Seriously? You guys need to chill. Believe what YOU want. I will do the same. It is ridiculous and only proving what I believe to be the case in some of these holier than thou comments.
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The man that encourages people to walk across hot coals to conquer their fears? Hmmm ... no.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
I post about Butch and his chaplain, go away for a couple hours and then come back to find Billy Graham Jr. vs Bill Maher has broke out.
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So...
You submit 1 of these threads every 6 months and it goes the exact same way every single time, and you're still suprised. Lol, awesome.
 
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bray2milton said:
Sure. SMH.
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I was actually a Carly Foirina supporter, but voted for Cruz in the primary since she had dropped out. But for the sake of your fragile little soul, keep thinking i am a Trump supporter so that in your mind whatever you think of me remains true. Id hate to harm any narrative you have
 
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volfannbama said:
I was actually a Carly Foirina supporter, but voted for Cruz in the primary since she had dropped out. But for the sake of your fragile little soul, keep thinking i am a Trump supporter so that in your mind whatever you think of me remains true. Id hate to harm any narrative you have
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No narrative. Good luck to you my friend.
 
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There is no "god," people. You want to believe because you fear death--hence all the nonsense about "heaven." Is there a sillier, more 1st-grade fairy-tale concept in the world? (Yea, maybe--"hell" and..."the devil!" Agggghhh!!) Most of us grew up with this nonsense drilled into our heads. It's comforting irrationality. Some decide that looking at the world rationally is more important and grow out of it. Many cling to it, as it is frightening to think that death ... is...it. Nothing wrong with believing...except when you want to make public policy out of bible stories and, say, teach creationism in school. Filling the heads of young people with anti-scientific craziness. Christians are so scared of secularism that they embrace the venal GOP and voted for Trump--who might be the most immoral man in America save for violent criminals. Oh, the compromises we make....I laugh at christian radio commentators who would regular criticize the ACA--a program that has given 20 million low-income people the opportunity to have health insurance. Horrors! It's not good to mix religion with politics, you look hypocritical. Let's DO move this to another board!
 
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There is an undercurrent of elitism within the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) that will always exist among those respective followers. It is written in their various scriptures the supremacy of their respective prophets, and resulting beliefs because of those prophets. They will proselytize, as each faith is called to do. I don't have issues with this as long as people are respectful and practice their core beliefs of love and kindness in the process. We can politely discuss belief systems, I usually find it fascinating to learn how common we all are when we tend to divide ourselves so rapidly.

What I have a problem with are angry, hate filled neophytes of any religion (or lack there of) that spew bile and seek to control free men and women through shame, violence, or the State to reach their ends.

This isn't Iran. And it should never be. Freedom of religion is paramount to the Republic, and should be cherished by all, believers and faithless alike.

Again, your friendly neighborhood Buddhist/atheist/former Catholic.
 
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armchair said:
There is no "god," people. You want to believe because you fear death--hence all the nonsense about "heaven." Is there a sillier, more 1st-grade fairy-tale concept in the world? (Yea, maybe--"hell" and..."the devil!" Agggghhh!!) Most of us grew up with this nonsense drilled into our heads. It's comforting irrationality. Some decide that looking at the world rationally is more important and grow out of it. Many cling to it, as it is frightening to think that death ... is...it. Nothing wrong with believing...except when you want to make public policy out of bible stories and, say, teach creationism in school. Filling the heads of young people with anti-scientific craziness. Christians are so scared of secularism that they embrace the venal GOP and voted for Trump--who might be the most immoral man in America save for violent criminals. Oh, the compromises we make....I laugh at christian radio commentators who would regular criticize the ACA--a program that has given 20 million low-income people the opportunity to have health insurance. Horrors! It's not good to mix religion with politics, you look hypocritical. Let's DO move this to another board!
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I at least have respect for those that don't believe, that at least know what they're talking about.
 
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