Bye Bye Louisville

[Weezer]

And I love you guys too, but I think blaming Breonna Taylor for her own death is asinine. Just as asinine as holding specific cops responsible for her death. But the police in general should be held responsible, and this situation should cause change.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

She wasn't an innocent woman she was involved in the drug trade. She was caught on audio in phone conversations about transporting drugs with her boy friend when he was previously incarcerated. She was also not a paramedic. She was fired from that job after it was discovered she had a dead body in her car. That was back in 2017. I hate that she lost her life but she wasn't the angel she is being portrayed to be.

Which only begs the question, exactly what did she do for income for the last 3 years?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Did they find drugs in her apartment?

No but that's irrelevant. Here's a fun fact. When the police interviewed the boyfriend, he asked what happened to the drugs which he acknowledged were there at some point. His answer was that he suspected Breonna of doing something with them. Hmm.

 

[volbeast33]

Fall back and regroup. They had that option. Where are the people in the apartment going? Nowhere. The whole damn thing should have been planned better.

They were executing multiple search warrants at the same exact time.... I think the thing that needs to be changed on the cops is the aggressive manner we attack the war on drugs

 

[1972 Grad]

There is a death in the United States every 11.14 seconds, and 7,755 every single day. That means that several folks will have died before I finish writing this. Somebody tell me why I should be more concerned about Breonna Taylor than the other 7,754 people who will die today. I honestly don't get it.

 

[volbeast33]

Not what I said.

I know but my example was more like what happened.... her actions brought the cops to her doorstep

 

[Weezer]

Nobody and I mean not one single person one this earth has a higher responsibility to keep me alive and safe than I do , I am responsible for my actions . Not the cops , not the judges , not the president , not congress , not the protesters .. nobody .

Which belies the situation she was in her own home, where she should have had a reasonable expectation of safety, yet was killed by police.

 

[DynaLo]

Dogs...fleas...company you keep...by association

Always understand and accept the risks involved in the life you choose to live.

 

[Weezer]

No but that's irrelevant. Here's a fun fact. When the police interviewed the boyfriend, he asked what happened to the drugs which he acknowledged were there at some point. His answer was that he suspected Breonna of doing something with them. Hmm.

Not irrelevant.

 

[UTLEGEND]

Does that make it okay when they hit and kill unintended targets? What if the bullet went through a wall and hit a 3 year old kid? It's not about whether it's okay to return fire, it's about being acutely aware of where those shots are going. If they're not hitting the intended target, what might they be hitting?

I guarantee you would make a 180 degree change on your stance if you were the one getting shot at. Screw her, she got what she deserved

 

[Weezer]

Obviously not gonna agree with you guys. The young lady should not be dead and that's on the cops. The whole situation went sideways, and despite what some think, police carry that burden of responsibility. It comes with the job.

I'm out, and this time I mean it.

 

[luthervol]

What you're really saying is that because Trump won, the people in your party are willing to go to any extreme including rioting, burning, pillaging, raping, and murdering because they lost. And, if Biden wins you'll stop rioting, burning, pillaging, raping, and murdering.

And if Biden wins you expect conservatives to act like adults and not be rioting, burning, pillaging, raping, and murdering because they are civilized human beings.

Own it, you are the party of rioting, burning, pillaging, raping, and murdering.

That's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm saying that if a normal, non horrendously despicable human who was also a republican had won, we would not have seen one tenth of the reaction we have. That's also true moving forward.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Not irrelevant.

It is irrelevant. That argument goes to the validity of the warrant which is a totally different argument. The argument at hand is whether the police properly executed the warrant. They knocked, announced they were police, knocked in the door, the boyfriend shot at the police, the police returned fire. She happened to be standing behind him and took a fatal bullet.

 

[volbeast33]

And I love you guys too, but I think blaming Breonna Taylor for her own death is asinine. Just as asinine as holding specific cops responsible for her death. But the police in general should be held responsible, and this situation should cause change.

It has started...... no-knock warrants are gone and I found they are changing camera policy for narcotics which makes it worse imo..... if it was ok to video tape them then why weren’t they already doing that?

 

[DancingOutlaw]

See there's no organization. These are grass roots organic protests. Just all happen to show up at the same time in the same place wearing the same thing.

 

[84Volfan]

Does that make it okay when they hit and kill unintended targets? What if the bullet went through a wall and hit a 3 year old kid? It's not about whether it's okay to return fire, it's about being acutely aware of where those shots are going. If they're not hitting the intended target, what might they be hitting?

Isn't that what the officer was charged for?

 

[luthervol]

I'm done arguing because all you guys are doing is pissing me off by blaming her for her own death. It's obvious you have low expectations of the police in this situation. There is no justification for the outcome. The fact you cannot see that is willful blindness. Yes, other people screwed up too, but police carry a higher expectation to not screw up. How you do not see and acknowledge that is beyond me.


I'm out.

I agree with you. I'm not sure if that makes you feel better or pisses you off more.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm saying that if a normal, non horrendously despicable human who was also a republican, had won, we would not have seen one tenth of the reaction we have. That's also true moving forward.

So if Biden is elected and conservatives think hes a despicable human, which he is by the way if you consider pedofiles despicable humans, the country will be less divided?

What you're really saying is that conservatives won't be rioting, burning, pillaging, raping, and murdering so the country will appear less divided.

 

[84Volfan]

Obviously not gonna agree with you guys. The young lady should not be dead and that's on the cops. The whole situation went sideways, and despite what some think, police carry that burden of responsibility. It comes with the job.

I'm out, and this time I mean it.

I agree she should not be dead, but the Bf shoulders the majority of the blame based on the AG decision and evidence he presented.

 

[OHvol40]

There is a death in the United States every 11.14 seconds, and 7,755 every single day. That means that several folks will have died before I finish writing this. Somebody tell me why I should be more concerned about Breonna Taylor than the other 7,754 people who will die today. I honestly don't get it.

If someone busted into the home of someone you love and killed them unnecessarily you’d probably get it. Empathy is usually a desirable quality.

 

[Wireless1]

I'm not defending her. I'm just unwilling to defend no-knock warrants. If the police get to bust in unannounced in the middle of the night, guns drawn and murder you without repercussions because you defended yourself in the middle of the night, confused and fresh from sleep with unannounced intruders in your home...

I'm not speaking specifically to this case as I haven't actually followed it closely. I'm talking about the principle of no-knocks.

The argument for it is generally destruction of evidence.

Well, what about the mistakes they've actually made by busting into the wrong home?

One loss of evidence is worth one innocent life and abuse of one citizen's rights?

I'm done...

There are situations where "No Knock" is warranted (take down of a bomb making suspect) but judges have become too liberal (IMO) in their issuance.....so I agree and disagree.

 

[Mick]

And I love you guys too, but I think blaming Breonna Taylor for her own death is asinine. Just as asinine as holding specific cops responsible for her death. But the police in general should be held responsible, and this situation should cause change.

There is no accountability for police. None. No such thing as personal responsibility when you're protected by a group and the courts.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That's a bad analogy, weez. Driving a car everyday is normal behavior. While risky it's part of everyday life. It is a necessary part of everyday life. Dealing drugs is not a necessary part of everyday life.

It was for her.

 

[0nelilreb]

Which belies the situation she was in her own home, where she should have had a reasonable expectation of safety, yet was killed by police.

I qualified that by saying I have as much fear of being in my home and having my door kicked in by the cops as I do being struck by lightning in a sunny day . This is because I take responsibility for my actions . I don’t do things that will cause the cops to be at my door . I’m positive even serial murderers feel safe when they are at home but they differ from the rest of us because of their actions that at anytime could cause cops to knock on their doors . Choices have consequences for everyone cops and civilians alike .

 

[0nelilreb]

There is no accountability for police. None. No such thing as personal responsibility when you're protected by a group and the courts.

So you are saying the Ag and the grand jury are covering for cops now ? Lol