'18 CA QB JT Shrout (UT signee)

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k-town_king said:
If y'all want to get excited over the 600 something ranked player that had a bad year ok. Get excited for anyone we sign then. I guess performance, offers, and rankings don't matter. :rolleyes:
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OR just let his career play out and don’t make a pre-determination either way before he steps foot on campus.
 
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Nobody but a QB such as Dobbs could be successful in Lyle's perfect offensive scheme led by the best coaching staff in America. Worley couldn't, Dormady couldn't, JG couldn't. So any comparisons to what past QB's did or did not do, especially in light of injuries and poor O-line play, are ridiculous.

Shrout doesn't have to deal with that. Nobody on here has the first clue what JT will do or not do based on what he did in his HS's offense.
 
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Vols4us said:
Nobody but a QB such as Dobbs could be successful in Lyle's perfect offensive scheme led by the best coaching staff in America. Worley couldn't, Dormady couldn't, JG couldn't. So any comparisons to what past QB's did or did not do, especially in light of injuries and poor O-line play, are ridiculous.

Shrout doesn't have to deal with that. Nobody on here has the first clue what JT will do or not do based on what he did in his HS's offense.
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This
 
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VOLATNES said:
I blame butchna. He said ktowns name three times in the thread and he showed up and took a dump and left it in this thread.
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I equate it to releasing a million gallons of water so’s the dam doesn’t collapse. Only one’s that die weren’t going to contribute much anyway. :cool2:
 
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Vols4us said:
Nobody but a QB such as Dobbs could be successful in Lyle's perfect offensive scheme led by the best coaching staff in America. Worley couldn't, Dormady couldn't, JG couldn't. So any comparisons to what past QB's did or did not do, especially in light of injuries and poor O-line play, are ridiculous.

Shrout doesn't have to deal with that. Nobody on here has the first clue what JT will do or not do based on what he did in his HS's offense.
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Every time I think of this I think of what dobbs could’ve been with proper coaching smh
 
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LaagerVol said:
Hope you’re right. He certainly looks the part and has the tools. That whole 25 interceptions thing is hard for me to get past though. I did see a HS QB throw like 6 int in a playoff game a couple years ago though and they weren’t necessarily his fault. Other team was determined to stop their high octane passing game and his coach still kept chucking it deep. Maybe Shrout had a HC that had him forcing it downfield?
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Blake Barnett had a bunch of picks in HS. Scared me off of him.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I wasn’t really presenting an opinion, though. Just a timeline. So I was just wondering what there was to show dissent against.
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Oh...you were doing FACTS. :good!: No characterization or interpretation whatsoever. I disputed your “timeline” and the specifics therein, but you didn’t pull the facts card. Mu bad.
 
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butchna said:
Oh...you were doing FACTS. :good!: No characterization or interpretation whatsoever. I disputed your “timeline” and the specifics therein, but you didn’t pull the facts card. Mu bad.
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Not sure why you’re always so combative. I didn’t disagree with or dispute a single thing you said.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Whatever you say
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Last thing on this (unless you keep it going :)), when you use the words “could have” “after he lost his starting job” and “toughed it out”, you’re not doing dates anymore. He backed up JG AFTER he lost his starting job. Yes, just one game but he legged out a carry for 13 yards and looked uncomfortable setting up to pass. The games, his stats and when he shut it down...that’s what fits on his TIMELINE. What he COULD have done WHEN and how much he could “tough out” for how long? That’s OPINION and CONJECTURE. You’re welcome for being smarter than when you first started this with me. :hi:
 
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VEKZY said:
Every time I think of this I think of what dobbs could’ve been with proper coaching smh
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Dobbs was the perfect QB for the system he was in and got good coaching for what he could bring to the table, which is why he succeeded. Not everything has to be a bash on previous coaches.
 
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butchna said:
Last thing on this (unless you keep it going :)), when you use the words “could have” “after he lost his starting job” and “toughed it out”, you’re not doing dates anymore. He backed up JG AFTER he lost his starting job. Yes, just one game but he legged out a carry for 13 yards and looked uncomfortable setting up to pass. The games, his stats and when he shut it down...that’s what fits on his TIMELINE. What he COULD have done WHEN and how much he could “tough out” for how long? That’s OPINION and CONJECTURE. You’re welcome for being smarter than when you first started this with me. :hi:
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Dormady chose to have the surgery when he did, which was after he lost his starting job. That is a fact. The injury happened before the season. That is another fact. He had the option to have surgery before the season, when he did have it (which was after being pulled for JG), or after the season ended. Those are also facts.


Saying that him postponing surgery until the end of the season would mean he needed to “tough it out” is subjective and an opinion. You are right about that. I’m sorry if my choice of words offended you. I’ll try to use words and phrases that portray the utmost neutrality in the future. I just didn’t expect someone who leans so heavily all caps and emojis to make arguments to be so easily upset by the phrases “tough it out” and “lost his starting job.” I apologize.
 
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vols 30 said:
Maybe the comment was more about his feeling about JG than Shrout. I don't think JG is the answer at QB either.
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Nah. The dude said, based off that one throw that was recorded from an angle where you literally couldn’t tell anything about how well he did or didn’t throw the ball, that it “looks like he’s already a better passer” than JG.

Come on man, that was a comment directed at JG, despite JG proving last year that he can have some success throwing the ball pretty well vs good SEC competition as a freshman last year under very, very poor conditions/circumstances.

Look, I’m not banging on Shrout here, I like a lot of what I read about him and how well he camped last year, how good he looked throwing the ball there. I’m very hopeful that he can come here and develop into an all-SEC type QB and be our guy of the future. But I’m also taken aback by him throwing 25 interceptions in highschool....that’s tough to even fathom imo, and that video at ground level and behind him, of him throwing one pass can’t possibly tell anybody anything.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Dormady chose to have the surgery when he did, which was after he lost his starting job. That is a fact. The injury happened before the season. That is another fact. He had the option to have surgery before the season, when he did have it (which was after being pulled for JG), or after the season ended. Those are also facts.


Saying that him postponing surgery until the end of the season would mean he needed to “tough it out” is subjective and an opinion. You are right about that. I’m sorry if my choice of words offended you. I’ll try to use words and phrases that portray the utmost neutrality in the future. I just didn’t expect someone who leans so heavily all caps and emojis to make arguments to be so easily upset by the phrases “tough it out” and “lost his starting job.” I apologize.
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See? You’re GETTING IT! “Leans so heavily on caps and emojis” is you attempting to reduce me. :) These are devices of my style. I like them as a means to emphasize the POINTS I make...I’m going to keep doing it. If you want a break from me, reissue that joke about the Chattanooga bus crash. I’ll give you the wide berth you seem to crave and not stray from it ever again.
 
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VOLATNES said:
I blame butchna. He said ktowns name three times in the thread and he showed up and took a dump and left it in this thread.
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He isn't beetle juice, all you have to do to make k town appear is mention a challenger to his Lord and savior Jarrett Guarantano. It's a Pavlovian response.
 
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butchna said:
See? You’re GETTING IT! “Leans so heavily on caps and emojis” is you attempting to reduce me. :) These are devices of my style. I like them as a means to emphasize the POINTS I make...I’m going to keep doing it. If you want a break from me, reissue that joke about the Chattanooga bus crash. I’ll give you the wide berth you seem to crave and not stray from it ever again.
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By all means, don’t let me me get in the way of your crusade against perceived conjecture or your cute stylistic devices.
 
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