'18 CA QB JT Shrout (UT signee)

[k-town_king]

except his skin color

-ktown probably.

Once again. It's is funny that people have a problem when someone criticizes a white player who has not performed well but had no issue with Dobbs being called a running back or people saying he want even a qb. I'm not the one that judge QBs like that. It's the ones who bashed Dobbs and JG while praising inferior QBs like Worley, RF, Dormady, Shrout etc.


To the actual subject though, I like what I hear. Glad he is working on the turnovers. I see I'm not the only one who knows it's a problem.

 

[RikidyBones]

Once again. It's is funny that people have a problem when someone criticizes a white player who has not performed well but had no issue with Dobbs being called a running back or people saying he want even a qb. I'm not the one that judge QBs like that. It's the ones who bashed Dobbs and JG while praising inferior QBs like Worley, RF, Dormady, Shrout etc.


To the actual subject though, I like what I hear. Glad he is working on the turnovers. I see I'm not the only one who knows it's a problem.

I'm just messing with ya man.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

I've talked to JT and his dad a bit and he seems like a great kid. Great attitude. Hard not to root for him.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

I'm in

 

[NeverWe'llSever]

I've talked to JT and his dad a bit and he seems like a great kid. Great attitude. Hard not to root for him.

He’s got an arm, that’s for sure.

 

[Blake25p]

Low risk high reward type signing.

 

[VolBraniac]

He’s got an arm, that’s for sure.

Better than that, he has two. :dance2:

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Shrout could be diamond in rough of Vols 2018 recruiting class

“The thing I immediately noticed is, man, this kid has a ton of skill,” said Hernandez, who is working with multiple quarterbacks and athletes at all levels of college football for the 2018 season. “He didn’t have ton of playing time his junior year, and in my eyes, watching as an outsider looking in, felt he was the better guy and could be the next big-time guy.

“He was at a school (Hart) that traditionally kind of only goes with a one-year starter. Hart had a run in Kyle Boller, Matt Moore, literally had their quarterback only play his senior year and then ball out and go D-1 and beyond like Boller. JT kind of knowing that decided to still be patient, to stick it out. Here on the West Coast, kids are looking to make moves if they’re not starting as freshmen, but he had good roots to his high school and things worked out.”

What Hernandez immediately glimpsed was Shrout’s ability to zip the football anywhere on the field; still with such little on-field, in-game experience, college coaches wanted more from Hernandez. Those coaches include Tennessee’s new staff under Jeremy Pruitt, specifically offensive coordinator Tyson Helton.

"Dealing with all the colleges I normally do, they wanted to see more, the movement, the backside dig, check-downs, progressions, and so what I had to do on my end was just recreate that, having workout sessions and making sure filming those things and letting coaches know, this guy is very good,” Hernandez said. “I’ll put him against anybody in the country. He wasn’t Elite 11, but I’d put him against everybody. He’s got the prettiest stroke, he’s got touch, can layer it, everything. I’d put him against everybody.”

Shrout began summer workouts with his new teammates on Rocky Top after he arrived at UT in late May.

“Coach Helton said he throws a really good ball, and I said, ‘I know, he does,’” Hernandez recalled. “And I told him, his best football is ahead of him. JT wasn’t that guy, some guys have been the best quarterback in the whole city since 8-years-old, highly touted, ton of offers. He’s just not that guy.

“I’m looking at how good he is, kid’s ceiling is very high, his best football is ahead. There are some really good guys in his class alone, and I don’t know how much better they’re going to get, but I look at J.T., the kid is still kind of raw, not a ton of experience, not been in front of all the cameras already, but when he’s put in those situations, he already seems a natural.

“His ceiling is just so high, he’s just scratched the surface of how good he can be, and under an amazing coach like Coach Helton and the rest of that staff, he’s going to be a sponge. The game’s going to really slow down for him.”

RELATED: Jeremy Pruitt should be able to sustain Vols’ recruiting momentum.

The game’s experts with top-level experience who run the QB Collective in Thousand Oaks, CA saw first-hand last summer a slice of Shrout’s burgeoning potential. At a camp with coaches like Mike Shanahan and Jim Zorn, alongside competitors who would sign 13 Power-5 scholarships and two more into the Ivy League, Shrout’s performance stood tall.

“Another big part in helping him was the opportunity to go to the QB Collective Camp,” Hernandez said. “It was basically an all-NFL staff. They were quoted as saying he was the most NFL-ready player throwing the ball. There were a lot of top dogs at that camp, and they gave JT pretty much the MVP at that camp, one where he got that stamp of approval.”

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Quarterback JT Shrout could be diamond in rough of Vols 2018 class

 

[butchna]

King in 3...2...1...

 

[jasonvol18]

Hot take... he’s a two year starter and signs an NFL contract

This wouldn't surprise me at all. The tools are there and his ceiling is very high. I really like his approach t go along with his skill set. Hope Helton can get him to that next level.

 

[millst987]

I’m impressed with the kid. I think he’s gonna ball

 

[jasonvol18]

Once again. It's is funny that people have a problem when someone criticizes a white player who has not performed well but had no issue with Dobbs being called a running back or people saying he want even a qb. I'm not the one that judge QBs like that. It's the ones who bashed Dobbs and JG while praising inferior QBs like Worley, RF, Dormady, Shrout etc.


To the actual subject though, I like what I hear. Glad he is working on the turnovers. I see I'm not the only one who knows it's a problem.

Not sure how you can include Shrout in that group, seeing as how he's never taken a college snap, much less a practice. But how anyone could praise Dormady or Worley is beyond me. Just like I don't see how Dobb's could be bashed. Without him we don't have either of those 9 win seasons. But nobody knows if Shrout will be inferior or superior. He's got the highest ceiling out of our QB's but that doesn't guarantee anything.

I will say I like Shroud's mindset and supporting his teammates and whoever starts. Say what you want but JG did the exact opposite of that early on last yr. So I would put JT ahead in the maturity department. Hoping Shrout doesn't have to play a down this yr. A RS year would benefit him.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Once again. It's is funny that people have a problem when someone criticizes a white player who has not performed well but had no issue with Dobbs being called a running back or people saying he want even a qb. I'm not the one that judge QBs like that. It's the ones who bashed Dobbs and JG while praising inferior QBs like Worley, RF, Dormady, Shrout etc.


To the actual subject though, I like what I hear. Glad he is working on the turnovers. I see I'm not the only one who knows it's a problem.

Dude he played one full year of high school ball as a QB of course turnovers were an issue.

As for calling Dormandy inferior I think that's a stretch. When he was healthy he was a baller, very accurate passer. With him transferring to Houston I think he will provide a nice fit for them, it'll be interesting to see his stats.

As for JG you are the only one who doesn't see that he still has decision and timing issues after going into his 3rd year of college ball. This can all be corrected of course.

I think Shrout has a very high upside and I honestly don't care who plays QB for us as long as we win.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

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[butchna]

Not experts.

-King

 

[KBVol]

-247

Shrout said he's been lifting weights a lot and has added 20lbs since NSD. And also studying the playbook a lot, trying to master the verbiage so he's ready to compete day 1.

Sure hope this kid is a stud and is our qb of the near future. Would be great to see him develop quickly and be a great qb here and future early round NFL draft pick.

 

[k-town_king]

King in 3...2...1...

Lol. You beat me here first of course.

I like what I hear. Its pretty much the same things said before. He did well at the one camp. Looks good mechanically.

Lets hope he can do it in game if he ever plays.

 

[butchna]

Lol. You beat me here first of course.

I like what I hear. Its pretty much the same things said before. He did well at the one camp. Looks good mechanically.

Lets hope he can do it in game if he ever plays.

“I saw the Elite 11 QB’s at the Opening and again a month later. JT was better than all but four of them”

 

[k-town_king]

Not sure how you can include Shrout in that group, seeing as how he's never taken a college snap, much less a practice. But how anyone could praise Dormady or Worley is beyond me. Just like I don't see how Dobb's could be bashed. Without him we don't have either of those 9 win seasons. But nobody knows if Shrout will be inferior or superior. He's got the highest ceiling out of our QB's but that doesn't guarantee anything.

I will say I like Shroud's mindset and supporting his teammates and whoever starts. Say what you want but JG did the exact opposite of that early on last yr. So I would put JT ahead in the maturity department. Hoping Shrout doesn't have to play a down this yr. A RS year would benefit him.

JG has the most upside. Bigger arm, faster, more highly thought of. He did that one game.

I included Shrout because just like Dormady people are claiming he is a better passer than what we have without him seeing the field in a SEC game.

Dude he played one full year of high school ball as a QB of course turnovers were an issue.

As for calling Dormandy inferior I think that's a stretch. When he was healthy he was a baller, very accurate passer. With him transferring to Houston I think he will provide a nice fit for them, it'll be interesting to see his stats.

As for JG you are the only one who doesn't see that he still has decision and timing issues after going into his 3rd year of college ball. This can all be corrected of course.

I think Shrout has a very high upside and I honestly don't care who plays QB for us as long as we win.

When was this accuracy? He was bad the first game and was healthy. Dormady was never accurate. He threw dangerous passes that got exposed anytime we played a team with a pulse.

There are a ton of qbs that started one year in hs that didn't throw 26 ints. What about the 51%? No excuse. Even he knows he needs to work on it. It is an issue. He can correct it. But it is bad. For someone who has a ton of pro coaching he had a ton of turnovers and incompletions.

JG has an issue getting rid of the ball quickly. Bad oline didnt give him much time too.

65% vs SEC and only two ints on the season show he makes good decisions and has nice timing on his passes.

I think Shrout has upside too. I just am realistic in saying he is years away from starting for UT though. He needs time to develop.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Shrout has a Cannon so wouldn't say who has bigger arm until seeing them next too each other. Shrout can put touch on balls without forced motion. JG has a hesitation in touch as it just doesn't come easy like firing a rocket does for him. JG prob a better decision maker though based on INt stats

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

I'm no expert, and as concerning as those interceptions are... I think what is most important are the things you can't teach. Decision making can be taught. Reads can be taught. I tend to think a lot of high school kids with big arms develop the Dan Marino mentality of just fit the damn ball in the space, regardless of coverage, and try to make something happen. More importantly, he has the tools he needs in the toolbox, he just needs more teaching on how to use them. My two whole pennies worth.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

JG has the most upside. Bigger arm, faster, more highly thought of. He did that one game.

I included Shrout because just like Dormady people are claiming he is a better passer than what we have without him seeing the field in a SEC game.



When was this accuracy? He was bad the first game and was healthy. Dormady was never accurate. He threw dangerous passes that got exposed anytime we played a team with a pulse.

There are a ton of qbs that started one year in hs that didn't throw 26 ints. What about the 51%? No excuse. Even he knows he needs to work on it. It is an issue. He can correct it. But it is bad. For someone who has a ton of pro coaching he had a ton of turnovers and incompletions.

JG has an issue getting rid of the ball quickly. Bad oline didnt give him much time too.

65% vs SEC and only two ints on the season show he makes good decisions and has nice timing on his passes.

I think Shrout has upside too. I just am realistic in saying he is years away from starting for UT though. He needs time to develop.

Well here are his highlights for 2015-2016.... All accurate throws to include being hit and getting the pass off with 2 guys on him. Quinten Dormady Tennessee Highlights (2015-2016) | HD - YouTube

Here is his 2017 film and look at about the 38 second mark when he drops one in between two defenders.
Quinten Dormady 2017 Highlights - YouTube

You say he was exposed, if Dormady wouldn't of made some of those jump ball throws (because he trusted his receivers) he wouldn't of helped us win against Georgia Tech. Also, he was playing with a torn labrum.... (No big deal though.....)

Well heck dude JG was years away from starting for UT but guess what he ended up getting it. There is plenty film of him holding on to the ball too long and taking multiple sacks. Blam it on the line all you want to, but at some point as a QB you have to say screw it I'm making a quick read or I'm tucking the ball or I am throwing it away for another day.

As far as JGs upside I don't think he has the highest. He has 2 more years to play. Just 2 and it has taken him 3 to get where he is now.

 

[butchna]

Well here are his highlights for 2015-2016.... All accurate throws to include being hit and getting the pass off with 2 guys on him. Quinten Dormady Tennessee Highlights (2015-2016) | HD - YouTube

Here is his 2017 film and look at about the 38 second mark when he drops one in between two defenders.
Quinten Dormady 2017 Highlights - YouTube

You say he was exposed, if Dormady wouldn't of made some of those jump ball throws (because he trusted his receivers) he wouldn't of helped us win against Georgia Tech. Also, he was playing with a torn labrum.... (No big deal though.....)

Well heck dude JG was years away from starting for UT but guess what he ended up getting it. There is plenty film of him holding on to the ball too long and taking multiple sacks. Blam it on the line all you want to, but at some point as a QB you have to say screw it I'm making a quick read or I'm tucking the ball or I am throwing it away for another day.

As far as JGs upside I don't think he has the highest. He has 2 more years to play. Just 2 and it has taken him 3 to get where he is now.

Not including this upcoming one...right?

 

[Sleegro]

Well here are his highlights for 2015-2016.... All accurate throws to include being hit and getting the pass off with 2 guys on him. Quinten Dormady Tennessee Highlights (2015-2016) | HD - YouTube

Here is his 2017 film and look at about the 38 second mark when he drops one in between two defenders.
Quinten Dormady 2017 Highlights - YouTube

You say he was exposed, if Dormady wouldn't of made some of those jump ball throws (because he trusted his receivers) he wouldn't of helped us when against Georgia Tech. Also, he was playing with a torn labrum.... (No big deal though.....)

Well heck dude JG was years away from starting for UT but guess what he ended up getting it. There is plenty film of him holding on to the ball too long and taking multiple sacks. Blam it on the line all you want to, but at some point as a QB you have to say screw it I'm making a quick read or I'm tucking the ball or I am throwing it away for another day.

As far as JGs upside I don't think he has the highest. He has 2 more years to play. Just 2 and it has taken him 3 to get where he is now.

You both are being over critical of guys you don't like. And speaking of accuracy, yer off with jg eligibility. He was a redshirt freshman last year. He's had 2 years here with bad coaching and has 3 left unless he leaves early. You both should take a step back and see what we have with these coaches before making these sweeping definitive statements. Or keep talking at each other. I don't care. Just get yer facts right first.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

You both are being over critical of guys you don't like. And speaking of accuracy, yer off with jg eligibility. He was a redshirt freshman last year. He's had 2 years here with bad coaching and has 3 left unless he leaves early. You both should take a step back and see what we have with these coaches before making these sweeping definitive statements. Or keep talking at each other. I don't care. Just get yer facts right first.

Butchna understood what I meant lol. I'm counting this year as his 3rd year and him having 2 more after.