CA Store Owner Killed Over Displaying Pride Flag

[NashVol11]

It’s obviously targeting them. Who is the desired demographic of drag queen story hour? Young kids, obviously. They even openly state such. So I’m not sure why you’d even ask that question other than to troll.

To teach them about queer ways is the short of “for what”.

As far as 3, I’m not sure. But the goal is attention as much as it is participation. And it started in 2017 and even warranted academic papers on its merits, so I’d imagine over 6 years there’s been a large number attend

Teach them about queer ways? Lmao when the President reads to kids is he targeting them to teach them about straight ways and sex?

 

[Vol8188]

I can deny it because the data I presented you literally supports it.

You asked for data, you were given supporting data.

Citing the latest FBI hate crime report from 2021, it shows almost a 12% increase over the prior year.

Thats an 11% increase in general hate crimes, that’s a different thing. I addressed this already. I even provided you the data from the fbi, screenshots of the charts, and took the time to manually add the numbers for you.

If you’re still claiming this to be true you apparently just ignored my earlier reply

 

[Vol8188]

Teach them about queer ways? Lmao when the President reads to kids is he targeting them to teach them about straight ways and sex?

I’m literally quoting the drag Queen behind drag Queen story hour

We are guided by the following question: what might Drag Queen Story Hour offer educators as a way of bringing queer ways of knowing and being into the education of young children?

 

[NashVol11]

I’m literally quoting the drag Queen behind drag Queen story hour

Cool, would make a lot more sense to quote the organization's website. Why avoid that?

 

[Septic]

Thats an 11% increase in general hate crimes, that’s a different thing. I addressed this already. I even provided you the data from the fbi, screenshots of the charts, and took the time to manually add the numbers for you.

If you’re still claiming this to be true you apparently just ignored my earlier reply

Sorry, you're right - the 11% was the REPORTED hate crimes. Thanks for pointing out that error.

Below are the year over year increases by BIAS against.

 

[Vol8188]

Cool, would make a lot more sense to quote the organization's website. Why avoid that?

Aren’t you equally capable of doing that yourself rather than asking me?

But at this point it seems you can no longer deny its directly targeted at young kids, correct? Or are you still playing your disingenuous games?

 

[NashVol11]

Aren’t you equally capable of doing that yourself rather than asking me?

But at this point it seems you can no longer deny its directly targeted at young kids, correct? Or are you still playing your disingenuous games?

At this point what?? You responded to the below question with "I'm quoting this drag queen...therefore, I've proven my point." Hahaha

Teach them about queer ways? Lmao when the President reads to kids is he targeting them to teach them about straight ways and sex?

 

[Gandalf]

Suspect in Killing of Storeowner Over LGBTQ Flag Was Far-Right Conspiracist Who Promoted Christian Nationalism: Report

You are a smart and capable guy - dont drown in the alphabet soup's biased news. Nothing in that article about "Christian" - Sherrif said “a far-right conspiracy theorist who shared deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic content on his social media accounts.” just because some liberal rag denotes the guy shared a twitter post by Protect Texas Kids, who has a director that supposedly has called herself a Christian fascist. Talk about whataboutism.

And I get it - when you are on LGBTQ news sites often, its easy to get a warped sense of things - just like if you are always on right only news sites. But you are far too savy IMO to get caught in that trap

 

[Gandalf]

Why do you think it was hatred of his LEO father and not his hatred of gays.

Because his actual discussion of violence in his posts was supposedly against cops. Maybe his father is gay too but that didnt get highlighted anywhere I saw. Lot of hate for cops though.

 

[Majors]

Sorry, you're right - the 11% was the REPORTED hate crimes. Thanks for pointing out that error.

Below are the year over year increases by BIAS against.

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Asians are the forgotten ones it seems.

 

[gcbvol]

Is drag queen story hour not “targeting kids”? And is the blowback from things such as that not where the pedo/groomer rhetoric comes from?

Targeting how? Here's the danger with labeling things 'grooming' - the term is intertwined with predation. That's not what drag queen story time is about. They typically read childrens' books about inclusivity and acceptance. I suppose this might be considered a type of grooming in a traditional sense, but it is nowhere near sexual predation.

 

[gcbvol]

You are a smart and capable guy - dont drown in the alphabet soup's biased news. Nothing in that article about "Christian" - Sherrif said “a far-right conspiracy theorist who shared deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic content on his social media accounts.” just because some liberal rag denotes the guy shared a twitter post by Protect Texas Kids, who has a director that supposedly has called herself a Christian fascist. Talk about whataboutism.

And I get it - when you are on LGBTQ news sites often, its easy to get a warped sense of things - just like if you are always on right only news sites. But you are far too savy IMO to get caught in that trap

There is a lot more out there. The guy talked about the Bible, God and used Bible versus in abundance when spewing his hatred. He also followed and shared posts from other Christian nationalists. Plenty of evidence out there.

More detail here:
Pride flag killing suspect appears to have a long history of anti-LGBTQ social posts

 

[Vol8188]

Targeting how? Here's the danger with labeling things 'grooming' - the term is intertwined with predation. That's not what drag queen story time is about. They typically read childrens' books about inclusivity and acceptance. I suppose this might be considered a type of grooming in a traditional sense, but it is nowhere near sexual predation.

We are guided by the following question: what might Drag Queen Story Hour offer educators as a way of bringing queer ways of knowing and being into the education of young children?

Everything has a target audience. They openly admit there target audience is young children and education. I'm not sure what exactly you're denying here.

 

[Vol8188]

Not sure where they are getting that claim. The most recent numbers are essentially stagnant despite large increases in the LGBTQIA+ population:

2021:
Sexual Orientation: 1127
Gender Identity: 266
Total: 1393

2020:
Sexual Orientation: 1110
Gender Identity: 266
Total: 1376


2019:
Sexual Orientation: 1195
Gender Identity: 198
Total: 1393

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2020 FBI Hate Crimes Statistics

Facts and Statistics

Sorry, you're right - the 11% was the REPORTED hate crimes. Thanks for pointing out that error.

Below are the year over year increases by BIAS against.

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Here's the problem. If you followed the linked data they provided, the specific numbers and subgroups they listed don't exist (see the image below). Rather they took the data I linked earlier and then broke it down into subgroups in a way they preferred to present a false story, instead of the 1,121 sexual orientation related hate crimes + the 266 gender identity crimes (the same numbers I highlighted in the image) and comparing that to last year they broke the numbers down even further into smaller subgroups so they could find/highlight some minor change. It's typical data manipulation, but not shocking. If you go to the link they provided you won't find that chart nor will you find the specific numbers/data they used. They took the data and manipulated it to tell their own false story.

The reason they did it is what I answered earlier. Because if you take the totality of gender identity and sexual orientation related hate crimes, you will find no real increase.

 

[Vol8188]

At this point what?? You responded to the below question with "I'm quoting this drag queen...therefore, I've proven my point." Hahaha

Reading a book to kids is targeting them? For what? How many people participate in that?

Yes, quoting the drag queen who openly says it's doing this to target young children....yes, it would seem I've proven my point.

 

[gcbvol]

We are guided by the following question: what might Drag Queen Story Hour offer educators as a way of bringing queer ways of knowing and being into the education of young children?

Everything has a target audience. They openly admit there target audience is young children and education. I'm not sure what exactly you're denying here.

I'm saying it isn't sexual predation or insidious in any way. Of course the focus group is children, but it's about acceptance and inclusivity. There's nothing evil about it.

 

[Septic]

Asians are the forgotten ones it seems.

Reminds me of a story I read about the Lululemon brand and why it was named that.

The Bizarre Reason Lululemon Got Its Name (thelist.com)

In a now (smartly) deleted letter, Wilson shared that he named the brand Lululemon because it had three L's, which were difficult for Japanese people to say, and he thought it was funny. In a later interview, Wilson continued sharing his take on Japanese culture and his brand name, "I was playing with Ls and I came up with Lululemon. It's funny to watch them try to say it,"

 

[Vol8188]

I'm saying it isn't sexual predation or insidious in any way. Of course the focus group is children, but it's about acceptance and inclusivity. There's nothing evil about it.

Sure, I'm aware of no examples of sexual predation or anything openly insidious done in terms of drag queen story hour. But I also don't think it's a massive step from Drag Queen's reading to 4 year old kids to teaching 4 year old kids that gender isn't real, that they can be whatever they wish to be, etc.

When you start approaching those grounds and opening confusing kids about something like gender, now we are bordering on grooming and sexual predation.

 

[Gandalf]

There is a lot more out there. The guy talked about the Bible, God and used Bible versus in abundance when spewing his hatred. He also followed and shared posts from other Christian nationalists. Plenty of evidence out there.

More detail here:
Pride flag killing suspect appears to have a long history of anti-LGBTQ social posts

I said stop quoting some liberal LBGTQ rag as a newsite!!!!! LOL

Seriously though - If the guy in 2018 said “LGBT people need to stop asking the world for acceptance, instead they should start accepting Jesus Christ in their hearts and turn away from their false sexual identity that the devil deceived them to be!” the account tweeted,” - I can see how gays could see that as hurtful but nothing biblically unsound about it.

BUT, then somewhere between there and him shooting someone who didnt want to take down a flag on their own property - he really missed the message. Not exactly sure how he thought he was following the injunction to win them over by his love toward them and good works.

 

[NashVol11]

Is drag queen story hour not “targeting kids”? And is the blowback from things such as that not where the pedo/groomer rhetoric comes from?

Sure, I'm aware of no examples of sexual predation or anything openly insidious done in terms of drag queen story hour. But I also don't think it's a massive step from Drag Queen's reading to 4 year old kids to teaching 4 year old kids that gender isn't real, that they can be whatever they wish to be, etc.

When you start approaching those grounds and opening confusing kids about something like gender, now we are bordering on grooming and sexual predation.

Fun statements to put side-by-side. "I can imagine that this harmless thing could eventually be not harmless" is a pretty terrible reason to start calling entire groups pedophiles. Glad we agree the blowback was based on "nothing insidious."

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Would be lead story on Fox for three weeks if a MAGA person was killed for flying a Let's Go Brandon flag.

Why do you care what’s on Fox News? Lol. Isn’t it just right wing propaganda? You are easily triggered these days. I mean even a song gets your panties twisted lol.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Why do you care what’s on Fox News? Lol. Isn’t it just right wing propaganda? You are easily triggered these days. I mean even a song gets your panties twisted lol.

This is EL's favorite song.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You are a smart and capable guy - dont drown in the alphabet soup's biased news. Nothing in that article about "Christian" - Sherrif said “a far-right conspiracy theorist who shared deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic content on his social media accounts.” just because some liberal rag denotes the guy shared a twitter post by Protect Texas Kids, who has a director that supposedly has called herself a Christian fascist. Talk about whataboutism.

And I get it - when you are on LGBTQ news sites often, its easy to get a warped sense of things - just like if you are always on right only news sites. But you are far too savy IMO to get caught in that trap

What a condescending sh*tpost. Lol.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

This thread is funny in a way. It took 6 posts for someone to make it political. That’s a huge problem in society now. A tragedy happens, someone loses their life and the first thing many want to know is whether they are right or left wing. So sad what this country had done to us.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Sure, I'm aware of no examples of sexual predation or anything openly insidious done in terms of drag queen story hour. But I also don't think it's a massive step from Drag Queen's reading to 4 year old kids to teaching 4 year old kids that gender isn't real, that they can be whatever they wish to be, etc.

When you start approaching those grounds and opening confusing kids about something like gender, now we are bordering on grooming and sexual predation.

We confuse them about all sorts of unnatural things. Religion, consumerism, violence, death... you just take issue with this because it makes you feel icky.