Callaway/Harris Sexual Assault Case

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Sensitivity is high because when there is a rape or sexual assault situation, 90% of the people on here say the players didn't do anything wrong. "Rape cases" being handled well is like saying, "Man we dealt with that child abuse situation well," or "I'm glad that divorce went so well. The kids will get two Christmases and two birthdays now!"

Yes we all hope it's deal with it as well as possible. But women were scarred for the rest of their lives. Handling it well still leaves people's lives ruined.
 
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Butch handled it the only way he could, immediate suspension.

He is not Judge Jury and executioner as some here would have him be.

And you are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty (even on a college campus) in spite of what the SJW's of the world would have you believe!

JMO! :salute:



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Phil-A-Man Jaro said:
Sensitivity is high because when there is a rape or sexual assault situation, 90% of the people on here say the players didn't do anything wrong. "Rape cases" being handled well is like saying, "Man we dealt with that child abuse situation well," or "I'm glad that divorce went so well. The kids will get two Christmases and two birthdays now!"

Yes we all hope it's deal with it as well as possible. But women were scarred for the rest of their lives. Handling it well still leaves people's lives ruined.
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"I'm glad it was handled well" != "I'm glad it happened."

I'm glad Sanduski went to prison, and I'd always rather see a divorce handled fairly and the parents interact amicably. Doesn't mean I like the idea of child abuse or divorce.

Pull the rip cord, my friend.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As soon as the accuser complained about this they should have found someone else to hear the case. If for no other reason than it just looks bad, like this.
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It only became an issue in last 24hrs. UF appointed him months ago. This isn't the first Student Conduct hearing he's been appointed over involving UF athletes.
 
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HialeahGator said:
It only became an issue in last 24hrs. UF appointed him months ago. This isn't the first Student Conduct hearing he's been appointed over involving UF athletes.
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The problem is that people are paying attention now. It isn't whether or not something is off. It is what the media can make it look like. They can make this look bad.
 
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University of Florida responds.

Florida Gators respond to bias accusation in Antonio Callaway case | Tampa Bay Times

The University of Florida is prohibited to comment on the existence or substance of student disciplinary matters under state and federal law.

However, I can tell you that our student conduct process may be handled by a hearing officer, who could be a university employee or an outside professional, or by a committee of faculty and students.

Any hearing officer and all committee members are trained and vetted for their impartiality. A hearing officer or committee member would not be disqualified or lack objectivity simply because he or she had been a student athlete decades earlier or purchases athletic tickets as more than 90,000 people do each year.
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bamawriter said:
That doesn't make him unbiased.
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But being a booster makes him bias? You'all have a hard time finding a faculty member who isn't a booster on some level.


My point is he just didn't get appointed this week. Thus hearing had been pushed back on their request on another occasion. Grand standing in the media.
 
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HialeahGator said:
But being a booster makes him bias? You'all have a hard time finding a faculty member who isn't a booster on some level.


My point is he just didn't get appointed this week. Thus hearing had been pushed back on their request on another occasion. Grand standing in the media.
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We literally just went through this for more tenuous accusations. You can't just shrug off grandstanding in the media. That's exactly why we had to settle our case.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Doubtful. You get sexually assaulted and all you require is an apology from accused to make it go away?
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Having a booster hear other cases with athletes as well makes this institutional. Yall are going to be sued. Surely you can objectively look at this and see its improprieties. If not, you have been under a rock for the last calender year.

I can also counter with, why apologize if you are innocent? She has yet to file a civil suit so you can't act like she's out for money.
 
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Those crafty little fellas over in Gainesville...

"Quite frankly, short of finding a relative of Mr. Calloway, I'm not sure how UF could have found someone with more conflicts [than] Mr. Schickel."
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The lawyers could have also been discussing this behind closed doors and since nothing changed, the doors of silence blew off and here we are.
 
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HialeahGator said:
But being a booster makes him bias? You'all have a hard time finding a faculty member who isn't a booster on some level.
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While I understand that he's dealt with student conduct issues for athlete's before now, has he ever mediated a Title IX case?
 
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utvols88 said:
Who said that?
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John Clune, the woman's attorney.

Here's a more extensive version of the quote:

"To be clear, this letter is not intended to cast any aspersions about Mr. Schickel's character or his service to his alma mater," Clune wrote in an Aug. 2 letter to Hass. "However, UF should never have asked him to serve as an objective reviewer and decision-maker on this matter when the claim has been brought against a star member of the very team for which both he and his law partners have provided considerable financial support.

"Quite frankly, short of finding a relative of Mr. Calloway, I'm not sure how UF could have found someone with more conflicts [than] Mr. Schickel."
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utvols88 said:
So she did try to handle this quietly and no action was taken. Yeah this is on UF and Callaways attorney. This is and should be a title ix suit
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John Clune was the lawyer for the accusers of Kobe Bryant, Jameis Winston, and now Baylor. This will most definitely be a Title IX case similar to ours.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As soon as the accuser complained about this they should have found someone else to hear the case. If for no other reason than it just looks bad, like this.
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agreed, $400 million looks like ransom no matter what the President says
 
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Why was Callaway allowed to practice BEFORE the hearing is completed?
 
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bamawriter said:
While I understand that he's dealt with student conduct issues for athlete's before now, has he ever mediated a Title IX case?
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Not that I'm aware of. He was on the committee that recommended that JC Jackson not be allowed back at UF.


This may open Pandora's Box with others moving forward.
 
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