Charlie Strong

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Out of the coaches that may realistically leave their current positions and come to TN. I think Charlie Strong and Dan Mullen are our most legit candidates!
 
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How many people assume that having a black head coach = better recruiting since most of the best skill players are black? It seems to me that a lot of folks believe this to be the case. Ask Kentucky or Mississippi State how many chapionships you get from breaking the color barrier alone. Strong may be the guy, defintely a better choice than Golden on paper, but not somebody that's going to make many people do cartwheels if hired.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
How many people assume that having a black head coach = better recruiting since most of the best skill players are black? It seems to me that a lot of folks believe this to be the case. Ask Kentucky or Mississippi State how many chapionships you get from breaking the color barrier alone. Strong may be the guy, defintely a better choice than Golden on paper, but not somebody that's going to make many people do cartwheels if hired.
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I think thats called racism. Ill take a coach, regardless of color, that can sell the program and develop players.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
How many people assume that having a black head coach = better recruiting since most of the best skill players are black? It seems to me that a lot of folks believe this to be the case. Ask Kentucky or Mississippi State how many chapionships you get from breaking the color barrier alone. Strong may be the guy, defintely a better choice than Golden on paper, but not somebody that's going to make many people do cartwheels if hired.
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Ok well outside of Gruden there are no legitimate candidates that would get the entire fanbase excited and doing cartwheels.
Stoops is NOT coming, the only reason he's getting his name in this talk is to get more money from Oklahoma.
Jimbo Fisher has underachieved with the talent he has compared to the level of talent in the ACC.
Now that TCU is in a real conference, Patterson is not leaving to come to a school that last time around allegedly insulted him.
Chris Peterson will never leave BSU, he can continue to play subpar teams all year and now, with the "playoff", has a much better shot to get a national title.

Honestly every single argument against hiring Strong can be used for every other candidate, including Gruden. So if Gruden can't/doesn't happen he is the next best legitimate candidate. This isn't the past, now you can get tons of media attention by performing well at ANY school in a major conference.
 
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volspeyton said:
I'll take Strong over Gruden..I know it sounds crazy but charlie has been the college game awhile he's a good defensive coach and if Gruden comes, has some success, he will bolt for the best nfl job that comes along and we are right back here again
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That does sound pretty crazy.
 
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Strong would be a worse hire than Dooley!!! After your ad says this is a crossroads hire in the programs history, and that's the best you can do. UT will be an even bigger joke than we are now.
 
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hoganIII said:
Strong would be a worse hire than Dooley!!! After your ad says this is a crossroads hire in the programs history, and that's the best you can do. UT will be an even bigger joke than we are now.
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Definitely not a worse hire than Dooley.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I think thats called racism. Ill take a coach, regardless of color, that can sell the program and develop players.
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racism is a 2 way street. strong has used the race card several times in his climb to a HC position. that too is racism. i wouldn't want a coach that's using the color of his skin to move up
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PennVol said:
If Hart brings him, better not be for more than 2.5 mil
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I think your pretty close. I would set the number at 3 million. Anything over that and his resume does not support the salary. We would be throwing money at a guy just to say we have a highly paid coach. 3 million would not be enough for him to leave UL IMO. Better for both parties I think.
 
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I think you are wrong about Stoops. It's one think to take calls, and fake intrest to get a raise, quite another to contact a school with an opening through back channels. Would do way more harm than good

JFBanicki said:
Ok well outside of Gruden there are no legitimate candidates that would get the entire fanbase excited and doing cartwheels.
Stoops is NOT coming, the only reason he's getting his name in this talk is to get more money from Oklahoma.
Jimbo Fisher has underachieved with the talent he has compared to the level of talent in the ACC.
Now that TCU is in a real conference, Patterson is not leaving to come to a school that last time around allegedly insulted him.
Chris Peterson will never leave BSU, he can continue to play subpar teams all year and now, with the "playoff", has a much better shot to get a national title.

Honestly every single argument against hiring Strong can be used for every other candidate, including Gruden. So if Gruden can't/doesn't happen he is the next best legitimate candidate. This isn't the past, now you can get tons of media attention by performing well at ANY school in a major conference.
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Dont see where Strong brings great or even good recruiting acumen.

Rivals rankings

2010- 48th
2011- 29th
2012- 42nd
2013- 73rd!!!

Real superstar there. Guy is seriously unproven as a head coach.
 
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I want to say I like Charlie Strong ALOT. I think it's a mute discussion, because Gruden seems a done deal now. That said I am not yet sure Gruden will live up to the very very high expectations people have of him. He seems to be an awesome choice, but he wouldn't be the first excellent NFL coach unable to transition to college. That said, I'm happy to have him. If you wanted to lay odds on success, Charlie Strong is a rock solid coach, and we and anyone else in the SEC looking for a coach would be lucky to have him. I wish he was still up for DC jobs, because combining him with Gruden....would be dirty sex magic. Hawt Hawt! That would be a dream team.
 
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A 23-14 record with only 1 ranked opponent in those 37 games. His recruiting has never been anything more than upper level of big east. What has he accomplished as a head coach? His only bowl victory was a nail bitter against southern miss. Look at this year, his one loss a butt whipping (19 points) to a 6-5 Syracuse team. Really?
 
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BurnieVeazey said:
Dont see where Strong brings great or even good recruiting acumen.

Rivals rankings

2010- 48th
2011- 29th
2012- 42nd
2013- 73rd!!!

Real superstar there. Guy is seriously unproven as a head coach.
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I've been saying that for months now but some people just do not get the fact he has played no one, Isn't recruiting worth a hoot and may be just a Dooley clone...Hell I'd rather have Shaw than Strong, At least he has proven he can beat good teams, Strong loses to everyone he plays.
 
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I just don't get why he is considered a top 3 candidate on many people's boards.

With the money we have talked about paying the next coach? Come on.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I want to say I like Charlie Strong ALOT. I think it's a mute discussion, because Gruden seems a done deal now. That said I am not yet sure Gruden will live up to the very very high expectations people have of him. He seems to be an awesome choice, but he wouldn't be the first excellent NFL coach unable to transition to college. That said, I'm happy to have him. If you wanted to lay odds on success, Charlie Strong is a rock solid coach, and we and anyone else in the SEC looking for a coach would be lucky to have him. I wish he was still up for DC jobs, because combining him with Gruden....would be dirty sex magic. Hawt Hawt! That would be a dream team.
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It's a mute discussion, huh? Interesting.
 
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dovervolz said:
racism is a 2 way street. strong has used the race card several times in his climb to a HC position. that too is racism. i wouldn't want a coach that's using the color of his skin to move up
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how exactly has he used the race card?
 
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