Coach "Jake": Freshman QBs are ready?

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DC Vol said:
Taking out the WKU game:

Crompton's stats before Georgia:

61-122 (50%) 669 yards (5.48ypa) 4 TD 6 INT

After Georgia:

127-208 (61%) 1665 yards (8ypa) 17 TD 4 INT


Stats say you don't have any idea what you're talking about. But, given this is VN Football Forum, what's overwhelming facts when compared to anecdotes and conjecture.
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There's no doubt he completely turned it around starting with that game. I think the improvement was mostly because Kiffin finally gave up on using his full playbook with Crompton and simplified it to basically Tecmo Bowl level for him.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Again...the pass to North was NOT elite. It was actually out of bounds. North had to make an acrobatic catch to make it work.

We are 3 and 3...could easily be 5-1, instead. I wouldn't say emphatically that what they have been doing is "working." It has worked against Sun Belt teams, and just barely at that. It worked for one half against an SEC team.

What's more is, the staff coached scared for the first half against UGA. It was only when they STOPPED coaching scared that we made it a real game. I am contending that they are STILL coaching scared in regards to the WR's and also regarding the freshmen.

They stated that the freshmen have been GAME-READY for weeks now...but basically they are too scared to play them in a game...CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL GET. Not playing them because you don't know what you'll get = SKEERED

They got 3 WR's that are between 6'4" - 6'5" and still outright REFUSE to leverage that size. No jump balls in the endzone to date. No deep passes to them to try and take advantage of that size. Harris can't eat peanuts off smallish db's helmets from the sideline...nor can Croom.

I think you can look at the 2nd half of the UGA game and make a compelling case that WHEN this staff no longer coaches scared, they can play with the big boys.
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Respectfully disagree. From the 26 yard line, opposite hash, on a rope, in spot only North could catch it. I'll agree with Ainge on this one.... elite throw.
 
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DC Vol said:
Additionally, it's ridiculous to even talk about burning a Red Shirt to pull a functional QB.

Worley has been up and down but if he can find consistency in there, he's a guy that will take us to a bowl game. If he plays like he did against Georgia and Florida (taking away desperation heaves) we'll be fine.

WRs also are in the mix. You don't want to throw out a True Freshman QB if the WRs are still young guys learning the system themselves. We have no JR/SR WR for a young QB to lean on.
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You're talking sense. We got Worley haters on board who wouldn't know sense if it entered their left nostril, exited their rectum, then pulled ear hair out their right ear with its teeth.
 
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Will he be the starter the rest of the season or will a freshman QB overtake him?
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KBVol said:
Gotta admit I was a bit baffled by CMB's comments about the freshmen QBs. Wasn't exactly sure about the context in which he made these comments. Perhaps it's just to reassure the fan base that these guys are quality D1 guys and if called upon they're adequately prepared.

That being said, there's no way in hades that Worley isn't the starter v SCar.... took a major step forward vs Georgia and we have to build on that going forward. Last thing we need is a "QB controversy" so I don't think we see a freshman QB unless Worley's injured.
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Glad I wasn't the only one a little suprised by what he said. Coach could have just said, Freshman are working hard but have a long way to go - or something like that. But instead he used phrases like "game ready" and that they have a "firm grasp" of the play book. Does he want to unleash the next great Vol QB? :)
 
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“They have been game ready for a while. The question is, you don’t know how well they will execute in those pressure situations until they are put in those situations. From a skill standpoint, from a knowledge standpoint they have a firm grasp. Now will it all trigger when the lights go on? That is the question.”

Interpretation: We (the coaches) have these guys ready! And if we have to use them (Worley goes down) we will. However if they lay an egg like Peterman, then its stage fright not lack of coaching or preparation.
 
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1974Vol said:
“They have been game ready for a while. The question is, you don’t know how well they will execute in those pressure situations until they are put in those situations. From a skill standpoint, from a knowledge standpoint they have a firm grasp. Now will it all trigger when the lights go on? That is the question.”

Interpretation: We (the coaches) have these guys ready! And if we have to use them (Worley goes down) we will. However if they lay an egg like Peterman, then its stage fright not lack of coaching or preparation.
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It's ultimately on the coaches and their responsibility, but after Peterman's absolute "freak out" in the Florida game, I wouldn't blame them for hedging a little bit. They clearly thought he was prepared and ready but when the bullets started flying the moment was way way way too big for him.
 
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Chilmonty said:
“They have been game ready for a while. The question is, you don’t know how well they will execute in those pressure situations until they are put in those situations. From a skill standpoint, from a knowledge standpoint they have a firm grasp. Now will it all trigger when the lights go on? That is the question.”


Some of you guys can read anything into anything!

Where does it say Worley is out??

All he is saying is that the frosh "should" be ready if needed.

I swear, I could post "Its raining" and some of you would reply "What do you mean the world is ending, HOW DARE YOU!" :banghead2::banghead2::banghead2:


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Nah, it would just mean that a freshman is starting. That's all.
 
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Volfan76 said:
1. Josh Malone
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Malone SPECIFICALLY cited Worley's improvement as a positive and even if Worley was not getting better... He'd only have to play with him for a year. Not a factor... and a coach would be worse than a fool if he chose his starting QB based on landing a HS player who may or may not ever be any good. LOTS of things happen to even tremendously talented HS players.
2. He's about as mobile as the Statue of Liberty
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Absolutely false. He probably needs to run MORE however he has looked good on every run and is NOT slow.
3. Worley Currently ranks 88 of 120 DIV I qb's (which is dead last in the SEC)
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And.... has improved tremendously from week 1 until now while playing with a WR and TE group with almost NO experience. UT's returning WR/TE totaled 38 catches last year. Eight of the other 13 SEC teams had at least one WR or TE that returned with at least 38 catches in '12. The others had 2 receivers that combined for that many catches or more.

Jones decided to go with talent over the very little experience he had to work with. He focused on J Smith, Croom, and North rather than Dallas and Carter. He then lost DY who was the one player they seemed to think had talent to go with a little experience. There was a cost to his decision just like there was a cost to his decision to start Peterman at UF (a loss and possibly Peterman's future at UT). But he considered it an investment. That investment appears to be paying off.
 
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I would say also that JW's lack of runs is somewhat of an indicator of the coaches' lack of comfort with the Fr. He has been effective on all but one of his runs. It sure seems reasonable to think they'd push him to run more if they weren't afraid of what would happen if he got injured.
 
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#93
Not trying to be a dill here, but some of you guys don't seem to get it yet. CBJ is all about creating competition at every position. Worley is our starter obviously. But you can't just put him in that position without creating some competition for him. They are simply trying to give Worley motivation to continue to improve.
 
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Who said he didn't say it? I think the discussion has been about what that actually means... with some still apparently clinging to a hope (for some reason I cannot fathom) that Worley is passed by one of them.
 
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IMO, Worley needs to run on the read option just a little more. 99 % of the time he hands off to the back. A few more good runs would possibly create some doubt in the defenses reading Worley. They pretty much know he isn't running the ball. But we would be increasing the odds down the road by keeping defenses from loading up the middle. Just looking at the highlights, you can see there is plenty of running room for Worley if he opts to keep the ball.
 
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volfaninutah said:
IMO, Worley needs to run on the read option just a little more. 99 % of the time he hands off to the back. A few more good runs would possibly create some doubt in the defenses reading Worley. They pretty much know he isn't running the ball. But we would be increasing the odds down the road by keeping defenses from loading up the middle. Just looking at the highlights, you can see there is plenty of running room for Worley if he opts to keep the ball.
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Agreed. He actually runs it decently because the D's leave it so wide open.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Unless there is something I'm missing, "stats" don't allow for arbitrarily removing data to help prove a point. Why take out the WKU game (one of his better performances) but leave in UCLA (one of his worst)?

Or how about just using his final three games if he had really turned a corner?

48-83 (58%) 455 yards (5.48 ypa) 5 TD 3 INT

Not really any significant improvement from his 1st half of the season when you include WKU back in the stats.
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You can take out the outlier though. It happens all the time in the real world.
 
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