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UTFanHades said:
So are they comparable or not? Not sure why you get so angry about this issue but it’s highly entertaining.
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LOL. I'm not angry. And I like Deion Sanders... I just don't think this is how to build a college football program ... nor do I think that is even his goal. Everything looks to be short-term.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL. I'm not angry. And I like Deion Sanders... I just don't think this is how to build a college football program ... nor do I think that is even his goal. Everything looks to be short-term.
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Insults state otherwise, but I guess I misread and you meant genius as a compliment. And super genius.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't have a "narrative" .... I have an observation that Deion Sanders isn't recruiting high school talent, but rather, looking to build short term success through the portal. My opinion is that is not a sustainable path to success over the course of a 4 year period. I would show Michigan State's fluctuation from 2-5 to 11-2 and back down to 5-7 as evidence.

We will see how things turn out ... but I believe Colorado is fool's gold. They will be just as bad in 3 years as they have ever been.
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Agreed, Coach Sanders will not be in Boulder in three years, my guess will be the nfl
 
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Otis07 said:
Agreed, Coach Sanders will not be in Boulder in three years, my guess will be the nfl
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What makes you believe that? What has he shown in the college game at this point? Had a few better athletes in HBCU and lost the big games. It seems he is HC in name at a Colorado who has surrounded himself with talent much like Dabo did at Clemson. He’s a tremendous recruiter and face of a program. But why what has he done that would make him an NFL coach? I like the excitement he’s brought for Colorado and the teams he’s playing but to me he’s an only a HC in name.
 
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Majors said:
What makes you believe that? What has he shown in the college game at this point? Had a few better athletes in HBCU and lost the big games. It seems he is HC in name at a Colorado who has surrounded himself with talent much like Dabo did at Clemson. He’s a tremendous recruiter and face of a program. But why what has he done that would make him an NFL coach? I like the excitement he’s brought for Colorado and the teams he’s playing but to me he’s an only a HC in name.
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Being the face of the program, leading/overseeing recruiting, and hiring a good staff is like 95% of being a college HC. He is by no means a HC in name only.

I don't think Deion would ever go to the NFL. He's even said as much.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
In a season where the SEC is down and there’s no dominant team emerging, the Colorado story is what CFB needed.

Love him or hate him, people are talking and paying attention.
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Agreed. It’s an odd season so far and the Prime story has been very interesting/polarizing. I’ll be interested to see how the rest of the season is covered after USC beats them this weekend .
 
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His skill players are still what everyone thought they would be and they are still as bad on both LOS as everyone thought they would be. Portal OL have been notoriously bad and that is showing all across the country. They are bad bandaids. Look at our LG. Has he even graded at a 60 yet? Colorado OL is hit garbage and is just now getting a real challenge. TCU dropped 8 and only rushed 3. Nebraska held them in check before the defense ran out of steam. CSU got pressure and stymied the run game. OL play is what separates the good teams from the greats in CFB. We are suffering through it as are a lot of other teams.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken $hit.

Deion inherited 1-11 talent, realized it, and upgraded the roster.

I don’t get why he’s being criticized for this.
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I don't think it's that he flipped the roster, more how he went about it.

Despite the results on the field those players he ran off bled and stayed with their team through their lowest times.

They deserved some respect other than just GTFO!
 
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Otis07 said:
Agreed, Coach Sanders will not be in Boulder in three years, my guess will be the nfl
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Deion is doing right now what he did during his career....... promoting himself...... Only now he's promoting his sons. I believe that's the end game, help get his sons into the league.
 
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KB5252 said:
I don't think it's that he flipped the roster, more how he went about it.

Despite the results on the field those players he ran off bled and stayed with their team through their lowest times.

They deserved some respect other than just GTFO!
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For some here, it is that he flipped the roster…as if scholarships are locked in for four years.

For others, it’s how he flipped the roster…as if he should have been softer with the messaging following a 1-11 season.

Had he not flipped the roster, CU doesn’t go into Eugene undefeated and the Deion hire is immediately deemed a failure.

He was brutally honest in that first team meeting to leave zero doubt of what his plans were, feelings be damned.

If you’ve ever been involved in a corporate merger, or massive org chart changes in an underperforming business, Deion’s first team meeting was a walk in the park.

God forbid UF or UT suffers a 1-11 season. But if that did happen, I’d want the next guy to gut the program and start fresh…and shoot straight with the messaging. Deion’s doing just that.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
For some here, it is that he flipped the roster…as if scholarships are locked in for four years.

For others, it’s how he flipped the roster…as if he should have been softer with the messaging following a 1-11 season.

Had he not flipped the roster, CU doesn’t go into Eugene undefeated and the Deion hire is immediately deemed a failure.

He was brutally honest in that first team meeting to leave zero doubt of what his plans were, feelings be damned.

If you’ve ever been involved in a corporate merger, or massive org chart changes in an underperforming business, Deion’s first team meeting was a walk in the park.

God forbid UF or UT suffers a 1-11 season. But if that did happen, I’d want the next guy to gut the program and start fresh…and shoot straight with the messaging. Deion’s doing just that.
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You can say what you want to ... At some point, Colorado's football program will pay a price for this current non-Class of 2024 High School recruits that's being assembled.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You can say what you want to ... At some point, Colorado's football program will pay a price for this current non-Class of 2024 High School recruits that's being assembled.
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I don’t have a vested interest in the future of Colorado football. I’m just enjoying the diversion this story provides during an otherwise forgettable CFB season.

But for the sake of your argument, I hope you’re right. Because it feels like you really want to be right.
 
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KB5252 said:
I don't think it's that he flipped the roster, more how he went about it.

Despite the results on the field those players he ran off bled and stayed with their team through their lowest times.

They deserved some respect other than just GTFO!
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I'm not saying the portal is a good thing but players are "jumping" as they wish, so Prime showed teams can "shove" as they wish.

Why shouldn't it go both ways? The schools have recruited kids only to have them bolt for a better opportunity. Colorado gave the players, collectively, a wake up call that what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I don’t have a vested interest in the future of Colorado football. I’m just enjoying the diversion this story provides during an otherwise forgettable CFP season.

But for the sake of your argument, I hope you’re right. Because it feels like you really want to be right.
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Have fun losing to Kentucky (AGAIN!) on Saturday.
 
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KB5252 said:
Deion is doing right now what he did during his career....... promoting himself...... Only now he's promoting his sons. I believe that's the end game, help get his sons into the league.
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This is more of where I’m at. Haven’t seen anything outside of self promotion/team promotion that he knows how to coach at this level. Colorado needed a boost and got it…Deion needed a P5 job and got it. Earlier I stated he was a HC in name.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You can say what you want to ... At some point, Colorado's football program will pay a price for this current non-Class of 2024 High School recruits that's being assembled.
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I don't think they care. Again, people have mentioned this a million times in this thread but it bears repeating - they went 1-11 last year. Since 2006, they've had 9 seasons where they won 4 or less games. Getting any kind of ROI on Deion is worth it for them.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't think they care. Again, people have mentioned this a million times in this thread but it bears repeating - they went 1-11 last year. Since 2006, they've had 9 seasons where they won 4 or less games. Getting any kind of ROI on Deion is worth it for them.
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Could be right. I just don't think some of the talking heads who are going overboard with the hype, realize that he's not recruiting any high school talent to speak of, and the position that is going to leave them in 3 years from now ... when he probably won't be there.
 
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