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cncchris33 said:
Neither was Tennessee football, until they were.
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Tennessee fans will tell you than it can always be worse than you think is possible. And with Memphis, in some god forsaken conference that nobody cares about, it’s a real possibility
 
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Ace said:
I have lived in Memphis and near Memphis for several years and you are underestimating the power of Penny. They would sell 4-5,000 more season tickets almost instantly if he became coach.
He might be a bust as coach, but Tubby is going to sink UM basketball financially if he stays another year. Tubby has sucked all the life out of Memphis Tiger basketball.
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Cool. There would certainly be a burst of enthusiasm. And then you need a coach that wins basketball games. Penny has exactly zero proof he can do that
 
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golfballs said:
Cool. There would certainly be a burst of enthusiasm. And then you need a coach that wins basketball games. Penny has exactly zero proof he can do that
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But there is proof that Tubby is running the program in the ground. 20 wins versus nobody schools. An empty FedEx Forum. No bb donations. Failure to recruit high level local Memphis talent.

Yeah, keep Tubby
 
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golfballs said:
And it won’t get any better if Penny Hardaway and comes in and is a bust. He’s very far from a sure fire hire. Pretty much the opposite
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You don't know Memphis. The rumor of Penny being coach has people either buying or considering buying season tickets. It's an automatic money maker for at least a couple of years. He will bring some players. Even if he isn't great as a floor coach, the talent alone will win games.
 
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golfballs said:
Cool. There would certainly be a burst of enthusiasm. And then you need a coach that wins basketball games. Penny has exactly zero proof he can do that
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And Tubby has shown zero proof that he can recruit. It goes both ways. They can't afford to lose the money they are losing.
 
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Ace said:
But there is proof that Tubby is running the program in the ground. 20 wins versus nobody schools. An empty FedEx Forum. No existent bb donations. Failure to recruit high level local Memphis talent.

Yeah, keep Tubby
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20 wins is never evidence of anyone running a program into the ground. That is complete nonsense

Trust me it can get worse. And if you hire penny hardaway, there’s a chance you might see it. Memphis fans were spoiled for years. They think they’re entitled to be among the basketball elite but it’s not reality. They risk becoming a hell of a lot worse than winning 20 games
 
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VolGee4 said:
You don't know Memphis. The rumor of Penny being coach has people either buying or considering buying season tickets. It's an automatic money maker for at least a couple of years. He will bring some players. Even if he isn't great as a floor coach, the talent alone will win games.
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Lol.

Look at these Memphis fans in here with their blue colored glasses. I don’t deny he will bring excitement and maybe some recruits. Memphis has never had much of a problem with recruits. You need a good coach. And it’s a big gamble to assume Penny is going to be a better one than Tubby
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Nobody ever got as lucky as Memphis did when Tech hired away Pastner with his $15m buyout or whatever it was.

They should pull the plug on Tubs and hire Penny and let’s renew the rivalry.
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Speaking of, radio today said that there have been talks of playing next year.
 
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As I’ve said, I’d love nothing more than to see Memphis basketball become irrelevant forever. So it wouldn’t bother me in the least to see them hire Penny Hardaway. Lol
 
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golfballs said:
Lol.

Look at these Memphis fans in here with their blue colored glasses. I don’t deny he will bring excitement and maybe some recruits. Memphis has never had much of a problem with recruits. You need a good coach. And it’s a big gamble to assume Penny is going to be a better one than Tubby
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They have under Tubby
 
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golfballs said:
20 wins is never evidence of anyone running a program into the ground. That is complete nonsense

Trust me it can get worse. And if you hire penny hardaway, there’s a chance you might see it. Memphis fans were spoiled for years. They think they’re entitled to be among the basketball elite but it’s not reality. They risk becoming a hell of a lot worse than winning 20 games
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Look, I grew up in Memphis. I don't root for them anymore because I went to UT, and I didn't like Calipari. But Memphis hangs it hat on basketball. That's what you think about when you talk about the school. It is better than 6th place in the AAC and being picked 9th in conference. Instead of losing by 20+ to its rival Cincinnati, they should be playing tight games, like Penny and Nick Van Exel did multiple times. Memphis football has become good, but its history is terrible. At some point, it could fall back into place, and basketball has to carry its weight. I enjoy all of your metrics and research, but you have to understand Memphis. Worst attendance this year in 48 years. I am younger than that. I hate it that outside people think that a Memphis guy has to turn the program around. There are other coaches that can do it, but Penny is the cheapest option. He already makes millions and wants his alma mater doing well. Unfortunately, the Tubby experience just isn't working.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Look, I grew up in Memphis. I don't root for them anymore because I went to UT, and I didn't like Calipari. But Memphis hangs it hat on basketball. That's what you think about when you talk about the school. It is better than 6th place in the AAC and being picked 9th in conference. Instead of losing by 20+ to its rival Cincinnati, they should be playing tight games, like Penny and Nick Van Exel did multiple times. Memphis football has become good, but its history is terrible. At some point, it could fall back into place, and basketball has to carry its weight. I enjoy all of your metrics and research, but you have to understand Memphis. Worst attendance this year in 48 years. I am younger than that. I hate it that outside people think that a Memphis guy has to turn the program around. There are other coaches that can do it, but Penny is the cheapest option. He already makes millions and wants his alma mater doing well. Unfortunately, the Tubby experience just isn't working.
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It reeks of desperation. And it could get a lot worse than Tubby’s 20+ wins in his second year. I know that sounds crazy to a Memphis fan, but it’s true.

Sad because Memphis has a good history. Surely you could get a proven coach.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
They have under Tubby
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I certainly respect them more than the players Calipari recruited before he split and left Memphis w vacated wins

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golfballs said:
20 wins is never evidence of anyone running a program into the ground. That is complete nonsense

Trust me it can get worse. And if you hire penny hardaway, there’s a chance you might see it. Memphis fans were spoiled for years. They think they’re entitled to be among the basketball elite but it’s not reality. They risk becoming a hell of a lot worse than winning 20 games
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8 of those games came in Nov and Dec against teams no one has ever heard of. They might have a chance of a NIT bid after today's win, but they were not even borderline before conference tourney for NIT.

KenPom has Memphis currently at 163.

He beat teams that are currently rated:
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This is why Memphis fans are so excited about Tubby.
 
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Best part of that photo is the guy on the right getting slapped like a girl by a Memphis player
 
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VolGee4 said:
This. Tubby can't recruit.

I laughed at your comment about Penny already coaching better talent in high school. That's funny. He has like 2 top 50 2019 players on his team and a connection to a 3rd. Has another top 100 player.
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I didn’t realize how awful he’s been at recruiting. 50th last year, 59th this year.

When you’re bringing in worse classes than UAB, Santa Clara, Harvard, St Louis.... well, I think you get the picture.
 
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Ace said:
8 of those games came in Nov and Dec against teams no one has ever heard of. They might have a chance of a NIT bid after today's win, but they were not even borderline before conference tourney for NIT.
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You should have more pride in your program than to hire a first time coach with no experience. Seriously, it’s sad
 
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