College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

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Those suggestions are almost entirely just making college hoops into the NBA lol. Pretty funny. I do agree with the 24-second shot clock and 4 quarters though.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Also lol at “Ban the charge”. How do you suppose we do that without making offense pure chaos?
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Don’t ban it but enforce the freedom of movement rules that the NCAA supposedly went to several years ago. It was just lip service. When the offensive player begins his move to the basket or to shoot, a defender can’t slide under or initiate the contact. It’s not being called that way.
 
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Allow coach to call timeout at any time or circumstance?

As in, when the other team has the ball?

What chaos that would create lol.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Allow coach to call timeout at any time or circumstance?

As in, when the other team has the ball?

What chaos that would create lol.
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Yeah dumb rule idea lol. Imagine having a timeout in your pocket for the closing seconds of a game and calling it with like 1-2 seconds left when the opposing team has the ball and is playing for last shot or is driving to the basket with an open lane. Chaos.
 
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I'd like the "advance ball with timeout in less than 2 min" to be a thing. It would make ends of game strategy scenarios so much more interesting and important.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
6 fouls needs to happen since refs don’t know what a foul is. Those quick 2 fouls on key players completely change games and put too much importance of outcomes into the subjective decisions of bad refs.
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Or you could just assign the fouls to other players in the general vicinity like in our game against Duke.

I mean truly one of the most outrageous calls I’ve ever seen. No one makes a big deal of it because we won. But it was unreal. Didn’t want to foul out a key player so just changed the foul to someone who clearly didn’t commit it.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Those suggestions are almost entirely just making college hoops into the NBA lol. Pretty funny. I do agree with the 24-second shot clock and 4 quarters though.
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IMHO the 24 second shot clock would be the most NBA-like thing they could do. The only thing I hate as much as the 24 second shot clock rule is the crazy no zone-defense rule. With the 24 second clock they barely have time to run a pick and role once then it breaks down into one-on-one and someone forces up a low percentage buzzer beater, usually a 3 pointer. Thats the whole NBA game. It's more like a 3 point shooting contest than real basketball. The beauty of college hoops is that there is time to set up your half-court offense, sometimes twice. Which means there is more coaching involved, good decision making by pure point guards and more offensive diversity. You can run your motion offense or set plays. You have time to get the ball into the low post to actual low-post players, draw a double team and kick it out to the open man who then finds a cutter. You rarely see any of this in the NBA any more. I feel like 30 seconds is just right, but if they wanted to make it 35 seconds, I would be ok with that too.
 
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oldaaucoach said:
IMHO the 24 second shot clock would be the most NBA-like thing they could do. The only thing I hate as much as the 24 second shot clock rule is the crazy no zone-defense rule. With the 24 second clock they barely have time to run a pick and role once then it breaks down into one-on-one and someone forces up a low percentage buzzer beater, usually a 3 pointer. Thats the whole NBA game. It's more like a 3 point shooting contest than real basketball. The beauty of college hoops is that there is time to set up your half-court offense, sometimes twice. Which means there is more coaching involved, good decision making by pure point guards and more offensive diversity. You can run your motion offense or set plays. You have time to get the ball into the low post to actual low-post players, draw a double team and kick it out to the open man who then finds a cutter. You rarely see any of this in the NBA any more. I feel like 30 seconds is just right, but if they wanted to make it 35 seconds, I would be ok with that too.
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I don’t know, I think it all is just preference but I do think I like a faster-paced game rather than some of the defensive slogs we’ve seen in college basketball recently. Don’t get me wrong, defense is an important part of the game, and maybe changing how the game is officiated slightly to be less physical and allow freedom of movement might help, but outside of that a 24-second shot clock feels like one of the only ways to help with the pace of the game.

I wasn’t a huge fan at first of some of the stylistic changes to MLB this year, but it’s hard for me to deny that the slight rule changes have made the game a lot more exciting. And I’m all for doing whatever we can to make sports more exciting.

I’m just tired of watching so many low-scoring slug fests in CBB.
 
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The shot clock was added because lesser teams were taking 2, 3, or more minutes per possession. Taking 30 seconds or more is fine for me. A bit of strategy isn’t a bad thing.
 
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oldaaucoach said:
IMHO the 24 second shot clock would be the most NBA-like thing they could do. The only thing I hate as much as the 24 second shot clock rule is the crazy no zone-defense rule. With the 24 second clock they barely have time to run a pick and role once then it breaks down into one-on-one and someone forces up a low percentage buzzer beater, usually a 3 pointer. Thats the whole NBA game. It's more like a 3 point shooting contest than real basketball. The beauty of college hoops is that there is time to set up your half-court offense, sometimes twice. Which means there is more coaching involved, good decision making by pure point guards and more offensive diversity. You can run your motion offense or set plays. You have time to get the ball into the low post to actual low-post players, draw a double team and kick it out to the open man who then finds a cutter. You rarely see any of this in the NBA any more. I feel like 30 seconds is just right, but if they wanted to make it 35 seconds, I would be ok with that too.
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Illegal defense rule was changed a while ago. You can play zone in the NBA. It’s just typically not smart cause everyone can shoot these days
 
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In 3 and a half months it will be 50 years since UT 11, Temple 6.

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The day Temple scored 6, and 'Black Hole' closed — Coley Harvey

A look at this day in history, when Tennessee and Temple scored 17 points in basketball, and the Oakland Raiders left town. Blog written by Coley Harvey, a broadcaster, podcaster, reporter, writer and host.
www.coleyharvey.com www.coleyharvey.com
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
In 3 and a half months it will be 50 years since UT 11, Temple 6.

www.coleyharvey.com

The day Temple scored 6, and 'Black Hole' closed — Coley Harvey

A look at this day in history, when Tennessee and Temple scored 17 points in basketball, and the Oakland Raiders left town. Blog written by Coley Harvey, a broadcaster, podcaster, reporter, writer and host.
www.coleyharvey.com www.coleyharvey.com
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does anyone recall how they would fly/drive the tapes of all BasketVol home games to Nashville , to be aired late at night on channel 2 I believe? It was such a perk back in the 70’s, growing up in H’ville, AL, and being able to watch the Vols on the hardwood via video.
Long-winded way to arrive, but I recall this game vividly, and how angry Coach Mears was the end of the game. Stu Aberdeen ran out to restrain him from the Temple staff.
Crazy crazy game for sure!
 
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snappervol said:
does anyone recall how they would fly/drive the tapes of all BasketVol home games to Nashville , to be aired late at night on channel 2 I believe? It was such a perk back in the 70’s, growing up in H’ville, AL, and being able to watch the Vols on the hardwood via video.
Long-winded way to arrive, but I recall this game vividly, and how angry Coach Mears was the end of the game. Stu Aberdeen ran out to restrain him from the Temple staff.
Crazy crazy game for sure!
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Saturday Night at Stokely was shown in Knoxville on the PBS channel and used UT’s College of Communications facilities. I would guess that they were able to uplink to a satellite to share the feed with Nashville.
 
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oldaaucoach said:
IMHO the 24 second shot clock would be the most NBA-like thing they could do. The only thing I hate as much as the 24 second shot clock rule is the crazy no zone-defense rule. With the 24 second clock they barely have time to run a pick and role once then it breaks down into one-on-one and someone forces up a low percentage buzzer beater, usually a 3 pointer. Thats the whole NBA game. It's more like a 3 point shooting contest than real basketball. The beauty of college hoops is that there is time to set up your half-court offense, sometimes twice. Which means there is more coaching involved, good decision making by pure point guards and more offensive diversity. You can run your motion offense or set plays. You have time to get the ball into the low post to actual low-post players, draw a double team and kick it out to the open man who then finds a cutter. You rarely see any of this in the NBA any more. I feel like 30 seconds is just right, but if they wanted to make it 35 seconds, I would be ok with that too.
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Wow. I completely disagree and feel like you really misrepresent the NBA game.

1. You can play zone.
2. There is tons of coaching and strategy in the NBA. In fact, I'd argue there's more than at the college level.
3. The 24 second clock forces teams to get into their sets right away instead of just waiting... if you don't think teams have sets for every key player on the team...I don't know what to tell you. It's there in every game.
4. NBA is about efficiency. The level of offensive talent is so high that a 1v1 play is often the BEST choice. Don't confuse that with "no strategy" or "no sets".
5. NBA defense is way underrated. Those last second shots often come because the defense shot down the first 3 options.
6. The bad teams have poor cohesion and won't execute and won't look good-- just like on college; you want to see sets and motion and cuts and strategy? Watch teams like Warriors, Nuggets, Celtics
7. The decrease in NBA post play has more to do with "what works". If college interior defense was a good as NBA level defenses, there would be less scoring inside too. And there is tons of paint scoring in NBA, just not a much back-to-the-basket play. Its more slashing and cutting.

This is not to say all NBA rules should be duplicated at college. There isn't enough talent at the college level to pull it off into a good final product. But to say the NBA is bad basketball or lacks strategy or thought is mind boggling to me
 
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Lukusw said:
Wow. I completely disagree and feel like you really misrepresent the NBA game.

1. You can play zone.
2. There is tons of coaching and strategy in the NBA. In fact, I'd argue there's more than at the college level.
3. The 24 second clock forces teams to get into their sets right away instead of just waiting... if you don't think teams have sets for every key player on the team...I don't know what to tell you. It's there in every game.
4. NBA is about efficiency. The level of offensive talent is so high that a 1v1 play is often the BEST choice. Don't confuse that with "no strategy" or "no sets".
5. NBA defense is way underrated. Those last second shots often come because the defense shot down the first 3 options.
6. The bad teams have poor cohesion and won't execute and won't look good-- just like on college; you want to see sets and motion and cuts and strategy? Watch teams like Warriors, Nuggets, Celtics
7. The decrease in NBA post play has more to do with "what works". If college interior defense was a good as NBA level defenses, there would be less scoring inside too. And there is tons of paint scoring in NBA, just not a much back-to-the-basket play. Its more slashing and cutting.

This is not to say all NBA rules should be duplicated at college. There isn't enough talent at the college level to pull it off into a good final product. But to say the NBA is bad basketball or lacks strategy or thought is mind boggling to me
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I’ve played and watched a lot of basketball since a young age, and my opinion is that it isn’t the best basketball in terms of strategy and ability to play as a team. It’s elite because of the ability of pros to make shots. Part of the reason teams don’t play much zone is because of the defensive 3 second rule.

The Warriors and maybe a couple of other teams play better team ball, but guys like Harden, Lillard, etc. have made it difficult to watch sometimes. Analytics have also changed it with the 3 point shot.

Saying the NBA is not the best basketball is not mind boggling to me. I don’t care to watch random games, but I do have a team in my town with young guys that are exciting. Being at a playoff game is entertaining.

It’s just a difference of opinion.
 
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I've argued for years that the NBA and NCAA should allow the FIBA goaltend rules. I love that rule so much. Live ball as soon as it hits the rim. Let these huge athletic guys use their athleticism!
 
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