College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

[Volfan1000]

Well Buzz did recruit Chris Lofton, who was Pearl's main guy . just saying

And don't forget Jajuan Smith.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

O'Neil's teams were TERRIBLE--some of the worst in the history of the program. There were high-school teams with better offenses....the guy
was awful.

The discussion is whether he was a good coach. Not a great coach. Not even that his UT teams were good. Not where he failed after leaving UT.

UT hired a mid-major coach that had just been in the Sweet 16. He built a very good roster and handed the program off to Jerry Green just as it was emerging. Tony Harris, Isiah Victor, Brandon Wharton, CJ Black, and Charles Hathaway were ballers..

Jerry owes KO for what became 4 20s and 4x NCAATs. KO was a good coach and the future was bright when he told Dickey to go eff himself.

 

[chuckiepoo]

And don't forget Jajuan Smith.

Schmiff. Put some respect on that name!

 

[chuckiepoo]

The discussion is whether he was a good coach. Not a great coach. Not even that his UT teams were good. Not where he failed after leaving UT.

UT hired a mid-major coach that had just been in the Sweet 16. He built a very good roster and handed the program off to Jerry Green just as it was emerging. Tony Harris, Isiah Victor, Brandon Wharton, CJ Black, and Charles Hathaway were ballers..

Jerry owes KO for what became 4 20s and 4x NCAATs. KO was a good coach and the future was bright when he told Dickey to go eff himself.

So. Take a side. Doug was a Richard?

 

[Volfan1000]

Dickey was a good football coach for us but as AD he didn't do our basketball program any favors.

Dickey let Bill Self slip through a potential hiring crack because he thought that the Tennessee fan base would not accept a coach from Oral Roberts University at that time.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

And don't forget Jajuan Smith.

And CJ Watson and Major Wingate and Dane Bradshaw and Andre Patterson.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Dickey let Bill Self slip through a potential hiring crack because he thought that the Tennessee fan base would not accept a coach from Oral Roberts University at that time.

I remember Self at ORU. Dickey was an idiot focused on oblongie thingie… and terrible at that.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

So. Take a side. Doug was a Richard?

They were both Ds.

DAD sucked at basketball and didn’t care. Lamar Alexander might be most to blame. He forced Dickey to hire Wade.

 

[chuckiepoo]

They were both Ds.

DAD sucked at basketball and didn’t care. Lamar Alexander might be most to blame. He forced Dickey to hire Wade.

Lamar… how can you speak ill of him? Didn’t he work on the graduate lab group that assisted Al Gore in inventing the internet?

 

[EasternVol]

It’s kind of funny how freaking exciting it was to beat Michigan State at their place in the exhibition but now looking back on it if we played the game today we’d probably be frustrated the game was that close

If we played them today we'd probably beat them by 15.

 

[Volfan1000]

They were both Ds.

DAD sucked at basketball and didn’t care. Lamar Alexander might be most to blame. He forced Dickey to hire Wade.

Wade was hired because of his son Allan and the fact that he was Denny Crum's top assistant at Louisville.

I think Crum would have done well here at Tennessee if he had been chosen after Mears resigned instead of hiring Wettig for one season.

 

[EasternVol]

Lamar… how can you speak ill of him? Didn’t he work on the graduate lab group that assisted Al Gore in inventing the internet?

No, they didn't allow flannel shirts.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Wade was hired because of his son Allan and the fact that he was Denny Crum's top assistant at Louisville.

I think Crum would have done well here at Tennessee if he had been chosen after Mears resigned instead of hiring Wettig for one season.

First choice was Pat Kennedy at Florida State. After he turned UT down it was between Wade and Leonard Hamilton. LH had some baggage from his time at KY.

Allan had already signed with Louisville. Wade was hired before UL released Allan and they weren’t very cooperative at releasing him.

Wettig was already on staff and was elevated to interim head coach.

 

[VolBalls33]

Should we talk about Tyndall being one of the lost munchkins from the Wizard of Oz? Or KO until my insides bleed out?

 

[chuckiepoo]

First choice was Pat Kennedy at Florida State. After he turned UT down it was between Wade and Leonard Hamilton. LH had some baggage from his time at KY.

Allan had already signed with Louisville. Wade was hired before UL released Allan and they weren’t very cooperative at releasing him.

Wettig was already on staff and was elevated to interim head coach.

…messy era…

 

[chuckiepoo]

Should we talk about Tyndall being one of the lost munchkins from the Wizard of Oz? Or KO until my insides bleed out?

Tyndall wuz a munchkin… I likey.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

About half of TN’s coaches got away without nicknames.

Wade the Fade
Uncle (and Drunkle) Jerry
Bruce Almighty
The Deacon

I don’t recall Donnie, Devoe, Cuonzo, KO, or Buzz having one. Although Donnie’s defense was the Tyndall Terror Defense and I guess KO and Zoe are nicknames. And the “haters” said Kwon-zoe. Robert Bower Peterson arrived with his.

I’m today years old when I realized that we had two Don/Donnies.

Bruce, Buzz, and Butch was confusing. I had to be careful not to say Bruce instead of Butch and vice versa.

 

[hUTch2002]

I didn't know anyone who knew basketball who was glad to see him go. The feeling was that he had things going in the right direction.

To be fair, expectations were far lower back then.

 

[knoxvol52]

Roy Williams was a terrific HC but it's not like he went and inherited a bare cupboard when he went to UNC.

Matt Doherty couldn't coach X's and O's but could recruit like hell..

Doherty left Roy ,Sean May, Raymond Felton and Rashad McCants the nucleus of Roy's first National Championship team.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

To be fair, expectations were far lower back then.

The foolish “fans” unhappy with anything and everything didn’t have the platforms to to stir their **** on. The internet hadn’t been invented and radio shows didn’t let them rant constantly.

Bumper stickers might have been about it. Go Johnny, Go! And take Devoe!

 

[cncchris33]

About half of TN’s coaches got away without nicknames.

Wade the Fade
Uncle (and Drunkle) Jerry
Bruce Almighty
The Deacon

I don’t recall Donnie, Devoe, Cuonzo, KO, or Buzz having one. Although Donnie’s defense was the Tyndall Terror Defense and I guess KO and Zoe are nicknames. And the “haters” said Kwon-zoe. Robert Bower Peterson arrived with his.

Donnie - Chaz Bono
Cuonzo - Clownzo

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

Let's not get carried away here. They're pretty good but they don't look like world beaters.

Notice the word “could”. There are a lot of teams that “could” win it all, Vols included.

 

[VolCalls]

If we played them today we'd probably beat them by 15.

At home maybe. They are top 35 in KenPom offensive and top 20 in defensive efficiency and will be a tough out in March. Beating an Izzo-coached team at the Breslin Center, even by one point, is always a quality win.

 

[DowntownVol]

The foolish “fans” unhappy with anything and everything didn’t have the platforms to to stir their **** on. The internet hadn’t been invented and radio shows didn’t let them rant constantly.

Bumper stickers might have been about it. Go Johnny, Go! And take Devoe!

Majors was 21-23-1 his first four years at UT. Somehow I doubt he would've gotten a fifth year in today's instant gratification environment.

 

[berryvol]

Donnie - Chaz Bono
Cuonzo - Clownzo

I will never not audibly laugh when I see someone call Tyndall “Chaz Bono.” It’s never not hilarious.