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#19,279
Not sure who should or will be the top 4 seeds. Houston, Purdue, NC and Tennessee all lost. UCONN game was close.

The last two days have made it clear - no team is unbeatable.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Their OOC schedule was embarrassing though.
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Right, and I figured that was the reason for them not really being in the discussion. But, the Big12 schedule they played was obviously excellent and then winning the conference tournament while the other contenders failed to do so in weaker conferences while bowing out to inferior teams, I just wonder if the committee will give credence to the lack of options in favor of the tournament winner of the best conference. And they beat the best team in their conference in blowout fashion. It may not even be a consideration, but figured they might be worth mentioning. They certainly looked deserving, today.
 
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After firing their head coach before the conference tournament then bringing him back because they couldn’t find an interim Long Beach state just won the big west and is going dancing talk about crazy!!!!
 
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cncchris33 said:
Right, and I figured that was the reason for them not really being in the discussion. But, the Big12 schedule they played was obviously excellent and then winning the conference tournament while the other contenders failed to do so in weaker conferences while bowing out to inferior teams, I just wonder if the committee will give credence to the lack of options in favor of the tournament winner of the best conference. And they beat the best team in their conference in blowout fashion. It may not even be a consideration, but figured they might be worth mentioning. They certainly looked deserving, today.
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Idk, I feel like we've went from "The committee completely disregards the conference tourneys" to them being the real center of conversation in terms of placing similarly situated teams in like two weeks. I would be floored if Iowa State was the 1, and would think it obvious recency bias
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
In the ACC Championship Game.
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If we played Florida state and Pittsburgh we would be in the championship game too
fwiw I think there's about a 2% chance we get a one seed, and fair enough, we had several opportunities to secure a 1 and couldn't do it. But its frustrating that the perception is gonna be unc did so much better in their tourney when they didn't play a single team that would have made it as an at large in the real thing and they still couldn't finish it out
 
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Vol49er said:
If we played Florida state and Pittsburgh we would be in the championship game too
fwiw I think there's about a 2% chance we get a one seed, and fair enough, we had several opportunities to secure a 1 and couldn't do it. But its frustrating that the perception is gonna be unc did so much better in their tourney when they didn't play a single team that would have made it as an at large in the real thing and they still couldn't finish it out
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I get but take care of business and we’re not having what if conversations. We laid an egg against UK and then laid a giant egg against MSU.
 
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fear said:
After firing their head coach before the conference tournament then bringing him back because they couldn’t find an interim Long Beach state just won the big west and is going dancing talk about crazy!!!!
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He’s the original architect of the Gonzaga success and one of the original mid major cinderellas. Elite 8 and Few was his lead assistant.
 
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Vol49er said:
Idk, I feel like we went from "The committee completely disregards the conference tourneys" to them being the real center of conversation in terms of placing similarly situated teams in like two weeks. ...
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You are correct. And it happened while we were still narrowly the 1 seed by the metrics after the KY loss.
 
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Two things: one, how we lost to Mississippi State is more damaging to our 1-seed hopes than simply losing. We were manhandled, obliterated, destroyed, pick-your-adjective. We suffered in both the metrics and the eye test.

Two, NC State’s Kevin Keatts was likely going to be fired at the end of the season, prior to the ACC Tournament. By winning it, there’s an incentive in his contract that automatically triggers a two-year extension. How’s that for karma?!?
 
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VolCalls said:
Two things: one, how we lost to Mississippi State is more damaging to our 1-seed hopes than simply losing. We were manhandled, obliterated, destroyed, pick-your-adjective. We suffered in both the metrics and the eye test.

Two, NC State’s Kevin Keatts was likely going to be fired at the end of the season, prior to the ACC Tournament. By winning it, there’s an incentive in his contract that automatically triggers a two-year extension. How’s that for karma?!?
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Vol49er said:
Idk, I feel like we've went from "The committee completely disregards the conference tourneys" to them being the real center of conversation in terms of placing similarly situated teams in like two weeks. I would be floored if Iowa State was the 1, and would think it obvious recency bias
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I think you're right in that the narrative has shifted, but I do think significant things happened in the last several days, too. I don't think anyone saw Tennessee limping in with a 2-gm losing streak where they appeared to have never shot a basketball, UNC losing to the lowest-seeded team to ever win the ACC title, and Arizona losing 2 of 4 to finish. Meanwhile, Iowa St. just laid in wait and demolished the #1 team in the country by 28 on a neutral floor and won the conference tourney title in the best league in America.

Would it be recency bias to elevate them to a 1 seed? Absolutely. Will it happen? I don't know, but this morning Jerry Palm has them as the last 1 seed.l, so I won't entirely discount the possibility. Lunardi has Carolina.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And there's recency bias in it for sure. But in a landscape where 3 or 4 teams had not separated themselves, ISU did the best job making a case this week.
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The changing parameters every year just drives me crazy. No one knows what the emphasis is, and it’s what you get when humans make decisions.

It’s so Tennessee that one year the conference tournament doesn’t matter and then 2 years later they elevate a solid 2 seed to the 1 line based on their conference tournament.
 
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