Conference expansion

#151
#151
zjcvols said:
League 1
Division 1: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Division 2: Illinois, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Purdue
Division 3: Boston College, Penn State, Pitt, Syracuse
Division 4: Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Division 5: Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska
Division 6: Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, Utah
Division 7: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Division 8: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State

League 2
Division 1: Florida, Florida State, Central Florida, Miami
Division 2: West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Maryland
Division 3: Duke, NC State, North Carolina, Wake Forest
Division 4: Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina
Division 5: Arkansas, Louisville, Kentucky, Tennessee
Division 6: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State
Division 7: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech
Division 8: Baylor, LSU, Texas A&M, TCU

Sorry Northwestern, Rutgers and Vanderbilt. Life is tough I know.

You play everybody in your division once every year (you basically keep all the huge rivalries in this set up except Tennessee/Bama...sorry). Rotate 3 divisions each year. 1 Non Conference game, first game of the year. 16 game season (8 home/8 away). 12 team playoff in each league. (3-4 playoff games). Winners of League 1/League 2 play for the national championship.
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Except TN v Bama? EXCEPT TN v BAMA?

Boo this man!
 
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#153
#153
headhunter15 said:


Could be reality one day.
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#154
#154
Here's my thing. If we are going to do 24 team super conferences, let's go to 14 regular games and do 12 conference games. I'm sorry, but I'm not down to have 24 team super conferences with 9 conference games and then 3 other games against Akron, Tennessee Tech and Bowling Green. If you're gonna make me do this, then give me more good football games.
 
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#157
#157
zjcvols said:
League 1
Division 1: Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Division 2: Indiana, Missouri, Notre Dame, Purdue
Division 3: Boston College, Penn State, Pitt, Syracuse
Division 4: Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Division 5: Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska
Division 6: Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, Utah
Division 7: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Division 8: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State

League 2
Division 1: Central Florida, Florida, Florida State, Miami
Division 2: West Virginia, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland
Division 3: Duke, NC State, North Carolina, Wake Forest
Division 4: Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina
Division 5: Arkansas, Louisville, Kentucky, Tennessee
Division 6: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State
Division 7: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech
Division 8: Baylor, LSU, Texas A&M, TCU

Sorry Cincinnati, Houston, Northwestern, Rutgers and Vanderbilt. Life is tough I know.

You play everybody in your division once every year (you basically keep all the huge rivalries in this set up except Tennessee/Bama...sorry). Rotate 3 divisions each year. 1 Non Conference game, first game of the year. 16 game season (8 home/8 away). 12 team playoff in each league. Each division winner gets a bye or first round home game. Winners of League 1/League 2 play for the national championship.
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For what this is trying to do it's not that bad.
 
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#159
#159
zjcvols said:
League 1
Division 1: Houston, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
Division 2: Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU
Division 3: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Division 4: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Division 5: Central, Florida, Florida State, Miami
Division 6: Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina
Division 7: Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Wake Forest
Division 8: Kentucky, Louisville, Memphis, Missouri
Division 9: Liberty, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

League 2
Division 1: Maryland, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers
Division 2: Boston College, Notre Dame, Syracuse, UConn
Division 3: Cincinnati, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Division 4: Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue
Division 5: Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Division 6: Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska
Division 7: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
Division 8: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Division 9: Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, Utah

There are currently 68 P5 teams (plus Notre Dame). I added UConn, Liberty & Memphis.

You play everybody in your division once every year (you basically keep all the huge rivalries in this set up except Tennessee/Bama...sorry). Rotate 3 divisions each year. 1 Non Conference game, first game of the year. 16 game season (8 home/8 away). 12 team playoff in each league. Each division winner gets a bye or first round home game. Winners of League 1/League 2 play for the national championship.
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I adjusted this since I have nothing better to do. I added Memphis, UConn and Liberty and redid to 9 divisions each (72 teams, keep the same idea). Let's do a 14 team playoff in each league, still 16 regular season games and rotate three divisions each year.

But here's the beauty of this...for the non revenue sports, you can just create mini conferences with the first three divisions. That way you don't have the stupidity of Oregon vs. Rutgers for softball or volleyball or whatever. Look at League 1 divisions 6-9. It's damn near perfect. You can divide them regionally, still get a bunch of TV money and still have these big college football conferences.
 
#160
#160
95 Vol Alum said:
Marty & McGee were comparing CFB to NASCAR this week. It appears appropriate.

The elimination of the regional characteristics in exchange for a “national” footprint to chase money in the moment may come back to haunt CFB much like it did NASCAR.
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What’s Nascar? It used to be must see TV, could not tell you the last time I have watched more than 30 minutes in a week….
 
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#161
Vollifer1949 said:
Somebody explain to me why the SEC would want Clempson or FSU? The conference already controls those TV markets. Neither are “National” brands.
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I think in the longer run adding anymore teams even those will dilute the per school media revenue. Clemson will suck if the were to come to SEC.
 
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#163
SpookyAction said:
Their lottery is being in both the NYC and NJ TV Market. Nothing else. No other P5 team there.
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I really wonder how many eyes/subscriptions those actually bring. It's pretty clear the payouts to the conferences arent sustainable. Otherwise ESPN would have a stranglehold.

You arent going to bring a ton of new subscriptions moving in with schools that have low viewership. Doesnt matter if there are 25 million potential costumers if you are only bringing in 100k with a Rutgers.

And in the age of streaming you may not/should not just count on the locals. That's the benefit of streaming, you pick it uo.and you go. So actual viewership, I would think, needs to be the indicator to these companies marketing on ESPN/fox, rather than potential markets.

Really the only value a school like Rutgers brings is that they are playing Ohio State. But guess what, that's really eyes on Ohio State and not Rutgers. Every team is going to have a peak, but the average is where you are going to get an ROI.

The TN market is tiny compared to a New York or New Jersey market. But we had 2 regular season guns that had 10x the number of viewers as Rutgers #1 game.

That HAS to show up in the $$$
 
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#164
GoDucks349 said:
Rumor is Oregon sent our all new recruiting materials Saturday that carry the Big 10 logo. Enough of Lincoln Riley telling recruits that they should go to USC over Oregon because USC is in the Big 10 and Oregon is in the PAC. USC had 13 months to exploit this in recruiting. Looks like the playing field leveled again... Here come the DUCKS!
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Just a little side note on why USC might not be so happy having the Ducks come along on this ride. Over the last 30 years the Ducks are 12-7 vs USC. And if you vacate the Pete Carroll 2005 game it's 12-6.
 
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#166
Conspiracy theory that in no way is true, but let's throw some spaghetti against the wall and see if it sticks...

ESPN slides FSU and Clemson over to the SEC and slide Cal and Stanford into their slots in the ACC. This avoids FSUs claim they're going to court. It also keeps your 2 biggest brands in the ESPN portfolio. This also gets you a few more late night games on the west coast.
 
#174
#174
Panthro said:
Just read about the ACC meeting to discuss possibly inviting Stanford and Cal. This can’t be real!
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They almost have to do something.... They negotiated a long term deal that has hamstrung revenue. If they expand maybe you can negotiate a better deal....... And keep some of your bellcows happy.
 
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#175
KB5252 said:
They almost have to do something.... They negotiated a long term deal that has hamstrung revenue. If they expand maybe you can negotiate a better deal....... And keep some of your bellcows happy.
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If I’m thinking more about every sport besides football. Even baseball players don’t get a full scholarship and they play games during the week. What is the Cal soccer player going to do?
I know a kid that just committed to Stanford to play baseball and football. If I am him, I am entering the portal as soon as baseball season is over this year.
 
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