Cooper Leaving

The narrative here in the past 2 pages is that Holly runs the players in the program like slaves on an "ole plantation," they don't like being driven like that, and they want more say in the program...and now that Holly isn't demanding enough effort and is too much like "one of the girls."

Plus the statements that Holly should have forgiven Te'a because we need more fight in the program, and that it's promising that Holly is finally taking control of the players and the chemistry issues.

Seriously? I don't think we can have it both ways.

I'm beginning to think we have a couple of bipolar posters to go with our resident trolls. And maybe a couple of posters that are stressed to the max over the situation.

Whatever, this is a sad situation for the girls, program, and fans (note I didn't say posters). Te'a made a mistake. I hate it for her and for us...and I hate it that she is no longer part of "us". IMO we need to quit tearing each other apart. This is addressed to the fans; I know the trolls and haters enjoy drama and misery.

Most of us know who really loves the program/girls/team/university/whatever. Let's support one another. Boxer, DeerPark, mtsu, gule, T_V376, Ladyvol4ever, mule, LVJeff, mlindsay, CoachJ, and a lot of others I haven't listed. We may disagree sometimes, but ultimately we love the Lady Vols. Let's try to be supportive of one another, respect differing opinions, and remember we are all Vols. And for heaven's sake, let's ignore the trolls and haters. They won't go away, but no reason to encourage them either.
 
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I'm beginning to think we have a couple of bipolar posters to go with our resident trolls. And maybe a couple of posters that are stressed to the max over the situation.

Whatever, this is a sad situation for the girls, program, and fans (note I didn't say posters). Te'a made a mistake. I hate it for her and for us...and I hate it that she is no longer part of "us". IMO we need to quit tearing each other apart. This is addressed to the fans; I know the trolls and haters enjoy drama and misery.

Most of us know who really loves the program/girls/team/university/whatever. Let's support one another. Boxer, DeerPark, mtsu, gule, T_V376, Ladyvol4ever, mule, LVJeff, mlindsay, CoachJ, and a lot of others I haven't listed. We may disagree sometimes, but ultimately we love the Lady Vols. Let's try to be supportive of one another, respect differing opinions, and remember we are all Vols. And for heaven's sake, let's ignore the trolls and haters. They won't go away, but no reason to encourage them either.

Well said small!!
 
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I'm beginning to think we have a couple of bipolar posters to go with our resident trolls. And maybe a couple of posters that are stressed to the max over the situation.

Whatever, this is a sad situation for the girls, program, and fans (note I didn't say posters). Te'a made a mistake. I hate it for her and for us...and I hate it that she is no longer part of "us". IMO we need to quit tearing each other apart. This is addressed to the fans; I know the trolls and haters enjoy drama and misery.

Most of us know who really loves the program/girls/team/university/whatever. Let's support one another. Boxer, DeerPark, mtsu, gule, T_V376, Ladyvol4ever, mule, LVJeff, mlindsay, CoachJ, and a lot of others I haven't listed. We may disagree sometimes, but ultimately we love the Lady Vols. Let's try to be supportive of one another, respect differing opinions, and remember we are all Vols. And for heaven's sake, let's ignore the trolls and haters. They won't go away, but no reason to encourage them either.

I agree and I wasn't condoning what Te'a did at all I was saying we have been missing an element of bad ass/swagger mentality under Holly and I want us to get back to that!

There was once a time (kind of like UConn has it now) that when people played us they already were in a 20 to 30 point deficit because we were the Lady Vols and now we have teams that think they are guaranteed wins against us and I don't like that one bit!
 
If the relationship between CHW and the players are as bad as everyone seems to think it is, why did two players predicted to be high draft picks decide to return?
Reason could be what Diamond said. "Going pro is not smart for women right now." College ball is the biggest platform, not professional."
 
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I don't think anyone's saying the players don't like Holly. They probably like her a lot. But what most of the posters here are saying is that Holly is not doing a very good job of motivating the players and demanding consistent effort and excellence. She's more like one of the girls as opposed to an authority figure.

Totally agreed...... and because of this I really think there is a serious lack of respect there.... last time i said that many came down on me.... but i will always think that....
 
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I'm beginning to think we have a couple of bipolar posters to go with our resident trolls. And maybe a couple of posters that are stressed to the max over the situation.

Whatever, this is a sad situation for the girls, program, and fans (note I didn't say posters). Te'a made a mistake. I hate it for her and for us...and I hate it that she is no longer part of "us". IMO we need to quit tearing each other apart. This is addressed to the fans; I know the trolls and haters enjoy drama and misery.

Most of us know who really loves the program/girls/team/university/whatever. Let's support one another. Boxer, DeerPark, mtsu, gule, T_V376, Ladyvol4ever, mule, LVJeff, mlindsay, CoachJ, and a lot of others I haven't listed. We may disagree sometimes, but ultimately we love the Lady Vols. Let's try to be supportive of one another, respect differing opinions, and remember we are all Vols. And for heaven's sake, let's ignore the trolls and haters. They won't go away, but no reason to encourage them either.

Perfectly put, SmallVol#1 ... thank you! 💙🍊 🏀
 
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Nah it the same tune, I back Pat and roll with Holly, we just rolling a lil slower than expected.

But I was not happy with last season's record or play!

This team, hopefully they will play for themselves cos its most of our top players, senior year but they do not respect her!

But not there will be no fire HOlly chants or beating a dead horse in the mouth no!

I like to see how people or coaches respond to adversity! This is a pivotal year in the Lady Vols program!

But am I a lil pissed off. Hell yea! Lady Vols basketball, we are tougher than you!

P4L, thanks for your response. I want to address something you said in another post you made on this thread. This comment:

"One of the main reason the gurl have been underperforming, and not playing for Holly, cos they (more than one, talked to recruits too) say the Lady Vols are ran like an ole slave plantations, its so ole and stale, the Lady Vols players does not have a voice in anything, and being a lady vols is no fun!"

Specifically, I want to address your comment that, "the Lady Vols are ran like an ole slave plantation."

This is an outrageous comment and I don't believe for one second any Lady Vol said those words. I think you may be drawing from the Q & A interview with Diamond where she talked about how the Lady Vols fanbase is very influential and things like how they change the music after the fans get in the arena. The girls like to listen to rap music while they're warming up. They play rap until TBA starts filling up, then they change the music to more traditional songs. I do know that is true and I don't necessarily agree with doing that. While we do have to keep things clean (because we all know some rap has profanity) if rap music fires them up and gets them motivated and helps them mentally prepare and "get in the zone," that's what should be played.

But for you to say "the Lady Vols is ran like an ole slave plantation," is way out of line and could not be further from the truth. That statement, to me, conjures up images of abuse, verbal and physical and you took it too far in saying that. Nobody, Holly or otherwise, is "treating them like slaves." And furthermore, if you think Diamond DeShields, Meme Jackson, or any of our other Lady Vols who are women of color would put up with abuse of that nature for three seconds you are delusional.

I don't like that you said that. I get that some things in the program could be more modern and don't disagree they shouldn't - but don't say it's "run like an ole slave plantation."

Just had to get that out of my system...carry on.
 
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I'm beginning to think we have a couple of bipolar posters to go with our resident trolls. And maybe a couple of posters that are stressed to the max over the situation.

Whatever, this is a sad situation for the girls, program, and fans (note I didn't say posters). Te'a made a mistake. I hate it for her and for us...and I hate it that she is no longer part of "us". IMO we need to quit tearing each other apart. This is addressed to the fans; I know the trolls and haters enjoy drama and misery.

Most of us know who really loves the program/girls/team/university/whatever. Let's support one another. Boxer, DeerPark, mtsu, gule, T_V376, Ladyvol4ever, mule, LVJeff, mlindsay, CoachJ, and a lot of others I haven't listed. We may disagree sometimes, but ultimately we love the Lady Vols. Let's try to be supportive of one another, respect differing opinions, and remember we are all Vols. And for heaven's sake, let's ignore the trolls and haters. They won't go away, but no reason to encourage them either.

I agree with you 1000000000%
 
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I'll point out that Pat had a lot of the same issues Holly has had with effort and finding the right way to motivate certain players. The difference is Pat also had players that were natural leaders on almost every team she has had and weren't afraid to hold each other accountable. The last two years we have not had that leader and nobody on the roster (outside of Russell and Alexa from time to time) that either holds themselves accountable consistently or held their teammates accountable when needed. This is all despite the coaching staff trying to pry it out of different individuals but leadership can't be forced and a lot of players, no matter how talented, take longer than expected to reach the mindset needed to be that leader. Hornbuckle, Marciniak and Loree Moore all come to mind but they all had the luxury of playing on teams that had other leaders to lean on.

With all that said there is very good reason Hayes, Davis and especially Westbrook were all major targets for more than just talent. They all have the ability to help change the mindset/culture of the team.
 
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Who ever gets her is getting a very good player. I just hope she finish her collage days.

I will never comment on something that I don't know, but what I do know is that Cooper is a very great player who may have ranked top 4 in her class. I got the feelings as soon as she got injured but never wanted to post anything negative on players because a lot of these recruiters are following our board comments and it may affect future recruits when they read negative posts. I first realized it in some games she won't show up which is strange compared to patt, unless ur hospitalize u better be on bench. All I can say is, lady vols keep it positibe and never look back.. Amen!
 
P4L, thanks for your response. I want to address something you said in another post you made on this thread. This comment:

"One of the main reason the gurl have been underperforming, and not playing for Holly, cos they (more than one, talked to recruits too) say the Lady Vols are ran like an ole slave plantations, its so ole and stale, the Lady Vols players does not have a voice in anything, and being a lady vols is no fun!"

Specifically, I want to address your comment that, "the Lady Vols are ran like an ole slave plantation."

This is an outrageous comment and I don't believe for one second any Lady Vol said those words. I think you may be drawing from the Q & A interview with Diamond where she talked about how the Lady Vols fanbase is very influential and things like how they change the music after the fans get in the arena. The girls like to listen to rap music while they're warming up. They play rap until TBA starts filling up, then they change the music to more traditional songs. I do know that is true and I don't necessarily agree with doing that. While we do have to keep things clean (because we all know some rap has profanity) if rap music fires them up and gets them motivated and helps them mentally prepare and "get in the zone," that's what should be played.

But for you to say "the Lady Vols is ran like an ole slave plantation," is way out of line and could not be further from the truth. That statement, to me, conjures up images of abuse, verbal and physical and you took it too far in saying that. Nobody, Holly or otherwise, is "treating them like slaves." And furthermore, if you think Diamond DeShields, Meme Jackson, or any of our other Lady Vols who are women of color would put up with abuse of that nature for three seconds you are delusional.

I don't like that you said that. I get that some things in the program could be more modern and don't disagree they shouldn't - but don't say it's "run like an ole slave plantation."

Just had to get that out of my system...carry on.



Welp they have lounges at practices, where they are on display. Sometimes the ladies feel they are treated as a product rather than ladies, they have little say. They can't wear the uniforms they want. They can't wear the shoes that want. They can't wear or have tattoos visible. They can't wear their hair certain way. They can't listen the music they want for warm ups or pregames. It goes on and on! I get it!

The ability of these players not being able to express themselves is abuse, and **** I thought that way in college, you feel like the coaches are just "using" you, so as a player, you give the coach what they give you.

Personally, all collegiate NCAA athletics is a carry over of the slave plantation and built on its model. ijs. Well maybe, the slave owner plantation "analogy" (but for some players that's the way it feels) was a lil harsh, but their ability to express themselves as players is not allowed and that goes further than music my friend (and not all rap music has cussing in it ijs just like country music is not all about sleeping with your family ijs) and hopefully Holly will meet the players half way.

Holly's job is to create an environment where I ladies thrive and express themselves, besides four or five games a season. How many games did our ladies, looked like they were having fun playing basketball? They were really enjoying the game of basketball. I'll wait.

Denial is a river in Egypt, my friend. Holly has some work to do and I also believe these four recruits would help things, but we all said the same thing about Te'a Cooper class.

She has to fix the culture of her program, its traditional which is fine, but there is definitely a disconnect.

I want Holly to succeed, see, I approach things from a standpoint of not wanting Holly to get fired but of a standpoint hopefully she can get better, but her players are not playing Lady Vols basketball for her every game, sorry my friend that is a problem. But sometimes the PRESSURE of winning can get the best of coaches, make them say, do, somethings that is not well received by the players.

How many games have lost in the last two years?

Knoxville, Hello. WE have a problem. I back Pat and roll with Holly, but we're riding slower, cos she keeps changing her mind on with direction of the program.
 
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If the relationship between CHW and the players are as bad as everyone seems to think it is, why did two players predicted to be high draft picks decide to return?

Work on their game and Lady Vols still one of the biggest platform in Women's Basketball. How many games on TV?
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Welp they have lounges at practices, where they are on display. Sometimes the ladies feel they are treated as a product rather than ladies, they have little say. They can't wear the uniforms they want. They can't wear the shoes that want. They can't wear or have tattoos visible. They can't wear their hair certain way. They can't listen the music they want for warm ups or pregames. It goes on and on! I get it!

The ability of these players not being able to express themselves is abuse, and **** I thought that way in college, you feel like the coaches are just "using" you, so as a player, you give the coach what they give you.

Personally, all collegiate NCAA athletics is a carry over of the slave plantation and built on its model. ijs. Well maybe, the slave owner plantation "analogy" (but for some players that's the way it feels) was a lil harsh, but their ability to express themselves as players is not allowed and that goes further than music my friend (and not all rap music has cussing in it ijs just like country music is not all about sleeping with your family ijs) and hopefully Holly will meet the players half way.

Holly's job is to create an environment where I ladies thrive and express themselves, besides four or five games a season. How many games did our ladies, looked like they were having fun playing basketball? They were really enjoying the game of basketball. I'll wait.

Denial is a road in Egypt, my friend. Holly has some work to do and I also believe these four recruits would help things, but we all said the same thing about Te'a Cooper class.

She has to fix the culture of her program, its traditional which is fine, but there is definitely a disconnect.

I want Holly to succeed, see, I approach things from a standpoint of not wanting Holly to get fired but of a standpoint hopefully she can get better, but her players are not playing Lady Vols basketball for her every game, sorry my friend that is a problem. But sometimes the PRESSURE of winning can get the best of coaches, make them say, do, somethings that is not well received by the players.

How many games have lost in the last two years?

Knoxville, Hello. WE have a problem. I back Pat and roll with Holly, but we're riding slower, cos she keeps changing her mind on with direction of the program.

I don't know about all that but I think denile is a river in Egypt!:)
 
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Welp they have lounges at practices, where they are on display. Sometimes the ladies feel they are treated as a product rather than ladies, they have little say. They can't wear the uniforms they want. They can't wear the shoes that want. They can't wear or have tattoos visible. They can't wear their hair certain way. They can't listen the music they want for warm ups or pregames. It goes on and on! I get it!

The ability of these players not being able to express themselves is abuse, and **** I thought that way in college, you feel like the coaches are just "using" you, so as a player, you give the coach what they give you.

Personally, all collegiate NCAA athletics is a carry over of the slave plantation and built on its model. ijs. Well maybe, the slave owner plantation "analogy" (but for some players that's the way it feels) was a lil harsh, but their ability to express themselves as players is not allowed and that goes further than music my friend (and not all rap music has cussing in it ijs just like country music is not all about sleeping with your family ijs) and hopefully Holly will meet the players half way.

Holly's job is to create an environment where I ladies thrive and express themselves, besides four or five games a season. How many games did our ladies, looked like they were having fun playing basketball? They were really enjoying the game of basketball. I'll wait.

Denial is a road in Egypt, my friend. Holly has some work to do and I also believe these four recruits would help things, but we all said the same thing about Te'a Cooper class.

She has to fix the culture of her program, its traditional which is fine, but there is definitely a disconnect.

I want Holly to succeed, see, I approach things from a standpoint of not wanting Holly to get fired but of a standpoint hopefully she can get better, but her players are not playing Lady Vols basketball for her every game, sorry my friend that is a problem. But sometimes the PRESSURE of winning can get the best of coaches, make them say, do, somethings that is not well received by the players.

How many games have lost in the last two years?

Knoxville, Hello. WE have a problem. I back Pat and roll with Holly, but we're riding slower, cos she keeps changing her mind on with direction of the program.

Just a couple of things in this post I wanted to respond to:

I know what you're saying about people being at practices. I don't like it and don't think it should be allowed. I don't care if that's "how Pat did it," (and I LOVED Pat - hand on my heart) but I just think practices should be private. This is my opinion, don't care what anybody else thinks.

The tattoos - yes, it's true, they are not allowed to show their tattoos, which several of them have - Alexa, Diamond, and Cedes I know all have tats. I think Rennia Davis has some tats too. (That's why AM always wore the sleeve.) I think this is also a holdover from the Pat days and probably needs to be done away with. (No disrespect WHATSOEVER to Pat - but times and views on tattoos have changed.) That said, I abhor neck tattoos. Yikes. (Again my preference)

I've already expesssed my thoughts on the
music - I think the girls should have their preferred music played if that makes them happy. And as to your response to me about country music (which I rarely listen to - You seem to assume I'm a huge country music fan - I'm not.) I said SOME rap music has cussing - not ALL, so don't be trying to act like I was saying all rap music has cussing - however some of it does and has lyrics about violence too. That's a fact. And once again, let me reiterate that I feel if this is what the girls want played that's what should be played.

The shoes - they all wear a different kind of shoes, so not sure where you are getting they can't wear what kind of shoes they want. Of course they have to wear Nike shoes -
that's their official gear provider - DUH! Don't know about "not wearing the type of uniforms they want." Not sure why that would even be an issue. As long as they are comfortable who the hell would care? We ain't tryin' to have a fashion show.

Now in case you didn't get it, P4L, I'm agreeing with you to degree on that some things in the program could be updated...and I am a traditionalist on a lot of things (just in general - maybe "old school" is a better term) but I get that times change and we have to move forward. It's a balance...

That said, can you imagine the backlash Holly would get from the fanbase if she changed ANY of these policies? She's in a very tough position where those things are concerned.

And the "run like a slave plantation" was definitely too harsh and just because they are
not getting their way they are being abused. I'd like to see somebody try to abuse Meme. She will cold-cock their ass! (Love her!!!)

That's all for now.... Go Lady Vols! 💙🍊🏀
 
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Just a couple of things in this post I wanted to respond to:

I know what you're saying about people being at practices. I don't like it and don't think it should be allowed. I don't care if that's "how Pat did it," (and I LOVED Pat - hand on my heart) but I just think practices should be private. This is my opinion, don't care what anybody else thinks.

The tattoos - yes, it's true, they are not allowed to show their tattoos, which several of them have - Alexa, Diamond, and Cedes I know all have tats. I think Rennia David has some tats too. (That's why AM always wore the sleeve.) I think this is also a holdover from the Pat days and probably needs to be done away with. (No disrespect WHATSOEVER to Pat - but times and views on tattoos have changed.) That said, I abhor neck tattoos. Yikes. (Again my preference)

I've already expesssed my thoughts on the
music - I think the girls should have their preferred music played if that makes them happy. And as to your response to me about country music (which I rarely listen to - You seem to assume I'm a huge country music fan - I'm not.) I said SOME rap music has cussing - not ALL, so don't be trying to act like I was saying all rap music has cussing - however some of it does and has lyrics about violence too. That's a fact. And once again, let me reiterate that I feel if this is what the girls want played that's what should be played.

The shoes - they all were a different kind of shoes, so not sure where you are getting they can't wear what kind of shoes they want. Of course they have to wear Nike shoes -
that's their official gear provider - DUH! Don't know about "not wearing the type of uniforms they want." Not sure why that would even be an issue. As long as they are comfortable who the hell would care? We ain't tryin' to have a fashion show.

Now in case you didn't get it, P4L, I'm agreeing with you to degree on that some things in the program could be updated...and I am a traditionalist on a lot of things (just in general - maybe "old school" is a better term) but I get that times changes and we have to move forward. It's a balance...

That said, can you imagine the backlash Holly would get from the fanbase if she changed ANY of these policies? She's in a very tough position where those things are concerned.

And the "run like a slave plantation" was definitely too harsh and just because they are
not getting their way they are not being abused. I'd like to see somebody try to abuse
Meme. She will cold-cock their ass! (Love her!!!)

That's all for now.... Go Lady Vols! 💙🍊🏀


T_Vol nice to see you still around. But yeah, Holly ain't going nowhere, and as long as she is the coach. I will have her back.

Like Nike on makes one color of shoes! lol Anyways.


Yes, Go Lady Vols. See, I believe Holly can do it! But yea, the PRESSURE, and then the players having to defend and hear the noise of their coach losing their job, its a distraction, and then no one is happy with the product of the floor. No One.

We both know those issues above are just a tip of the iceberg right?

This is new territory for the Lady Vols program. I've never remembered a time where the fan base was this fractured. I never remembered a time, where the lady vols had two digit losing seasons. I never remembered a time when Lady Vols teams weren't tough, I mean we might not have been the best offensive team in the country, but our ladies were always TOUGH!

Do you believe this is a pivotal year for the Lady Vols program?
 
Just a couple of things in this post I wanted to respond to:

I know what you're saying about people being at practices. I don't like it and don't think it should be allowed. I don't care if that's "how Pat did it," (and I LOVED Pat - hand on my heart) but I just think practices should be private. This is my opinion, don't care what anybody else thinks.

The tattoos - yes, it's true, they are not allowed to show their tattoos, which several of them have - Alexa, Diamond, and Cedes I know all have tats. I think Rennia David has some tats too. (That's why AM always wore the sleeve.) I think this is also a holdover from the Pat days and probably needs to be done away with. (No disrespect WHATSOEVER to Pat - but times and views on tattoos have changed.) That said, I abhor neck tattoos. Yikes. (Again my preference)

I've already expesssed my thoughts on the
music - I think the girls should have their preferred music played if that makes them happy. And as to your response to me about country music (which I rarely listen to - You seem to assume I'm a huge country music fan - I'm not.) I said SOME rap music has cussing - not ALL, so don't be trying to act like I was saying all rap music has cussing - however some of it does and has lyrics about violence too. That's a fact. And once again, let me reiterate that I feel if this is what the girls want played that's what should be played.

The shoes - they all wear a different kind of shoes, so not sure where you are getting they can't wear what kind of shoes they want. Of course they have to wear Nike shoes -
that's their official gear provider - DUH! Don't know about "not wearing the type of uniforms they want." Not sure why that would even be an issue. As long as they are comfortable who the hell would care? We ain't tryin' to have a fashion show.

Now in case you didn't get it, P4L, I'm agreeing with you to degree on that some things in the program could be updated...and I am a traditionalist on a lot of things (just in general - maybe "old school" is a better term) but I get that times change and we have to move forward. It's a balance...

That said, can you imagine the backlash Holly would get from the fanbase if she changed ANY of these policies? She's in a very tough position where those things are concerned.

And the "run like a slave plantation" was definitely too harsh and just because they are
not getting their way they are being abused. I'd like to see somebody try to abuse Meme. She will cold-cock their ass! (Love her!!!)

That's all for now.... Go Lady Vols! 💙🍊🏀

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a Winner. Holly, this is your program.

I like Meme too! What happens if your wife or spouse don't get their way? Do you get yours? lol Have a great weekend.
 
When a fan base can dictate a coaches career then there is an issue in administration on down

Lady Vols fan base (9,000 strong home games) (boosters) is strong, and they are applying a lot of pressure, and the pressure is constant and its not in a positive way!

Fans (buy tickets and watch games) and boosters (money for new facilities) have more say than you think. And that's just not with the Lady Vols, its at most colleges, cos let the attendance keep dipping and the booster stop giving money. WE are talking about the Flagship of Women's basketball. ijs.

One of the reasons why I support Holly and team, cos its seems like it them VS. every one else, just the hatred from fans attending games. I said I had to go and see if for myself, all the conservations at those games were about firing Holly.

It made me sad for Holly and the players, the support for her is drying up and that is a problem. Holly knows what needs to be done, let see if she can do it.

I back Pat and roll with Holly, just a lil slower than normal.
 
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Welp they have lounges at practices, where they are on display. Sometimes the ladies feel they are treated as a product rather than ladies, they have little say. They can't wear the uniforms they want. They can't wear the shoes that want. They can't wear or have tattoos visible. They can't wear their hair certain way. They can't listen the music they want for warm ups or pregames. It goes on and on! I get it!

The ability of these players not being able to express themselves is abuse, and **** I thought that way in college, you feel like the coaches are just "using" you, so as a player, you give the coach what they give you.

Personally, all collegiate NCAA athletics is a carry over of the slave plantation and built on its model. ijs. Well maybe, the slave owner plantation "analogy" (but for some players that's the way it feels) was a lil harsh, but their ability to express themselves as players is not allowed and that goes further than music my friend (and not all rap music has cussing in it ijs just like country music is not all about sleeping with your family ijs) and hopefully Holly will meet the players half way.

Holly's job is to create an environment where I ladies thrive and express themselves, besides four or five games a season. How many games did our ladies, looked like they were having fun playing basketball? They were really enjoying the game of basketball. I'll wait.

Denial is a river in Egypt, my friend. Holly has some work to do and I also believe these four recruits would help things, but we all said the same thing about Te'a Cooper class.

She has to fix the culture of her program, its traditional which is fine, but there is definitely a disconnect.

I want Holly to succeed, see, I approach things from a standpoint of not wanting Holly to get fired but of a standpoint hopefully she can get better, but her players are not playing Lady Vols basketball for her every game, sorry my friend that is a problem. But sometimes the PRESSURE of winning can get the best of coaches, make them say, do, somethings that is not well received by the players.

How many games have lost in the last two years?

Knoxville, Hello. WE have a problem. I back Pat and roll with Holly, but we're riding slower, cos she keeps changing her mind on with direction of the program.

Complete BS .
 
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