Cross on the mound for Easter at the baseball game [MOVED]

[DeusExMachina]

No Human Deserves To Endure a Jesus Worshipping Sing Along While Flying 30,000 Feet in the Air


Three things would have happened. 1: "Excuse me, flight attendant, can you get this idiot to sit down and shut up since that's your job?? K, thanks"; 2: "I'd also like a complete refund of my ticket today for this cruel and unusual punishment". If 1 and 2 didn't happen, 3 equals dude wearing his stupid guitar like a Jeff Jarrett match and me getting arrested by the incompetent and inefficient sky marshal who should have shut it down prior to that.

No, I don't care that they're singing Jesus music. Religion(IN ANY FORM) is like a (male reproductive organ). It's perfectly fine that you have one, it's perfectly fine to be proud of the one you have, but when you start waving it around in public where people can't get away from that nonsense, it becomes a serious issue. And before someone mentions "put headphones in", you shouldn't have to because some twonk and their equally idiotic buddies want to sing about their magic sky daddy.

 

[Glitch]

No Human Deserves To Endure a Jesus Worshipping Sing Along While Flying 30,000 Feet in the Air


Three things would have happened. 1: "Excuse me, flight attendant, can you get this idiot to sit down and shut up since that's your job?? K, thanks"; 2: "I'd also like a complete refund of my ticket today for this cruel and unusual punishment". If 1 and 2 didn't happen, 3 equals dude wearing his stupid guitar like a Jeff Jarrett match and me getting arrested by the incompetent and inefficient sky marshal who should have shut it down prior to that.

No, I don't care that they're singing Jesus music. Religion(IN ANY FORM) is like a (male reproductive organ). It's perfectly fine that you have one, it's perfectly fine to be proud of the one you have, but when you start waving it around in public where people can't get away from that nonsense, it becomes a serious issue. And before someone mentions "put headphones in", you shouldn't have to because some twonk and their equally idiotic buddies want to sing about their magic sky daddy.

Next time, just go say hi ant td ask @Bassmaster_Vol to play some Metallica to balance out the playlist.

 

[Volbucky]

No Im just the only one who will look at it objectively.

Oh yeah, you’re a hero. So brave.

 

[DeusExMachina]

So you're ok with suppressing Christian rights as long as we don't step on those others? Gotcha. I don't know where the mean Christian touched you but good land man, your hate is palatable. I love you man but it ain't a good look.

For the record, I'm perfectly okay with "suppressing" all religious "rights" in public. What's good for one is good for all.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Schools should not push any religion or political ideology. However, colleges and universities are playgrounds for professors to push their political views on impressionable young minds. I would love it if schools at all levels just got back to teaching the subject matter and stopped pushing agendas one way or the other.

Not saying this doesn't happen, as I'm sure there are some professors who push their viewpoints pretty hard (there are absolutely conservative professors...not all are liberal), but I never experienced it in college. I think this too often gets pushed as something very common and I really don't think it is. One thing that does tend to happen is that a lot of small town kids go to college and are suddenly exposed to other people with different backgrounds, upbringings, and beliefs...and that's just the student body. I don't know of a single person I went to school with who went in conservative and came out liberal, but I do know a few that found out some of the stereotypes they had been raised to believe were in fact just racist BS. Raise your kid to not just believe everything they're told and to actually seek out facts to back things up. You'll never have to worry about those scary professors indoctrinating them.

 

[Glitch]

For the record, I'm perfectly okay with "suppressing" all religious "rights" in public. What's good for one is good for all.

Just the opposite. Suppressing any rights leads down bad roads. The thing about rights is that they allow people to say things and maybe do things that we don't agree with. However, if you believe in freedom and liberty then you will defend the rights of the people that you disagree with as fervently as those that you do agree with. Rights are rights all the time. Not just when they suit our feelings or situation.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Just the opposite. Suppressing any rights leads down bad roads. The thing about rights is that they allow people to say things and maybe do things that we don't agree with. However, if you believe in freedom and liberty then you will defend the rights of the people that you disagree with as fervently as those that you do agree with. Rights are rights all the time. Not just when they suit our feelings or situation.

K. Then you of course won't mind when there's a mosque in every town, a Jewish temple across town from that, folks running around with colanders on their heads (admittedly, I find pastafarianism quite hilarious), Jehovah's witnesses banging on your door at all hours, and a 15-foot tall statue of Baphomet in the town square?? Cool!!!

 

[Glitch]

Not saying this doesn't happen, as I'm sure there are some professors who push their viewpoints pretty hard (there are absolutely conservative professors...not all are liberal), but I never experienced it in college. I think this too often gets pushed as something very common and I really don't think it is. One thing that does tend to happen is that a lot of small town kids go to college and are suddenly exposed to other people with different backgrounds, upbringings, and beliefs...and that's just the student body. I don't know of a single person I went to school with who went in conservative and came out liberal, but I do know a few that found out some of the stereotypes they had been raised to believe were in fact just racist BS. Raise your kid to not just believe everything they're told and to actually seek out facts to back things up. You'll never have to worry about those scary professors indoctrinating them.

I haven't sent any kids to college yet, so I have no firsthand information. There are certainly some conservative professors, but the vast majority are liberal. It is just the nature of academia. People of a liberal worldview tend to wind up in the world of education for whatever reason. That is fine, as everyone is entitled to their views. However, I have heard countless stories from fellow parents that talk about how their kids professors borderline harassed their child for daring to espouse an opposing view point. I have not heard any evidence of a conservative professor doing the same, but admittedly I don't have a lot of liberally minded folks in my circle of regular friends.

I definitely agree with your last point though. Raise up your children in the way that they should go and when they grow up they will not depart from it. Raise them with truth and they will be well.

 

[Glitch]

K. Then you of course won't mind when there's a mosque in every town, a Jewish temple across town from that, folks running around with colanders on their heads (admittedly, I find pastafarianism quite hilarious), Jehovah's witnesses banging on your door at all hours, and a 15-foot tall statue of Baphomet in the town square?? Cool!!!

There are mosques, synagogues, and Buddhist temples in Murfreesboro. We all seem to get along pretty well together. I answer the door when the Jehovah's witnesses come by and let them know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and I pray that they have a blessed day. I don't know of anyone that worships a baphomet statue but if they want to buy a building and put up a statue like Christians display the cross then they are certainly welcome. If you want to get away from all religious experience in the public square then you might need to move to China or some place that has squashed all religious freedom.

 

[InVOLuntary]

For the record, I'm perfectly okay with "suppressing" all religious "rights" in public. What's good for one is good for all.

Good to know that suppressing a protected constitutional right is something you're ok with.

 

[InVOLuntary]

For the record, I'm perfectly okay with "suppressing" all religious "rights" in public. What's good for one is good for all.

Also, do you think Muslims and Hindus, etc. should be barred from wearing their religious clothing in public?

 

[Girth Brooks]

For the record, I'm perfectly okay with "suppressing" all religious "rights" in public. What's good for one is good for all.

Contradictory statements are contradictory. If Jesus is good for one, He is good for all. I believe He emphatically is, but if you do not, you have to square what’s good for one is good for all. Several prominent atheist-turned-Christian people (Lee Strobel) have done much more homework on the life of Jesus, His works, and proof of His existence than you. I’m comfortable in saying that. Using language like sky daddy is shortsighted and immature at best, and it is reckless and damning at worst. You have a Heavenly Father, whether you submit to His authority or not.

 

[Devo182]

I’ll never understand how something like that could offend somebody

Tbf he didn't say it was offensive. At all. He said public schools shouldn't be doing it. That's not being offended afaik. It's an argument over the lemon test. Not saying he's right, but questioning legality is far from being offended lol. Jeesh

Edit: just realized we're in the garbage bin thread. Crap!

 

[DeusExMachina]

Contradictory statements are contradictory. If Jesus is good for one, He is good for all. I believe He emphatically is, but if you do not, you have to square what’s good for one is good for all. Several prominent atheist-turned-Christian people (Lee Strobel) have done much more homework on the life of Jesus, His works, and proof of His existence than you. I’m comfortable in saying that. Using language like sky daddy is shortsighted and immature at best, and it is reckless and damning at worst. You have a Heavenly Father, whether you submit to His authority or not.

(yawn) No, I don't. And if there is someone/something up there controlling all this, they have a sick sense of humor and a HELL of a lot of explaining to do. For an "omniscient and omnipresent" deity to allow kids to be molested, trafficked, or murdered, for that same "God" to allow kids or anyone to suffer through cancer or other sicknesses, for that same God to look the other way while atrocities are being committed in His/Her name, that's disgusting at best, and makes me shudder that even in today's society (in the past, folks didn't know any better) people still subscribe to, believe in, and support this drivel.


I don't need a god figure to be a decent person. I've done horrible things in my time here on this big blue ball, but unlike you, I don't have to talk to an imaginary friend to make myself feel better about them.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Also, do you think Muslims and Hindus, etc. should be barred from wearing their religious clothing in public?

I don't care what anyone wears, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a "religious" thing. I notice you didn't ask about Jews wearing the yarmulke, or Sikhs wearing their beards.......

 

[DeusExMachina]

Good to know that suppressing a protected constitutional right is something you're ok with.

"What's good for one is good for all"
- @Girth Brooks

 

[DeusExMachina]

There are mosques, synagogues, and Buddhist temples in Murfreesboro. We all seem to get along pretty well together. I answer the door when the Jehovah's witnesses come by and let them know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and I pray that they have a blessed day. I don't know of anyone that worships a baphomet statue but if they want to buy a building and put up a statue like Christians display the cross then they are certainly welcome. If you want to get away from all religious experience in the public square then you might need to move to China or some place that has squashed all religious freedom.

You know as well as I do that your fellow Christians would explode if this was the case across the nation. You know as well as I do that not everyone is "as tolerant" of other religions as you. For you to suggest that that tolerance applies to everyone of your faith is ludicrous.

 

[Jackcrevol]

"What's good for one is good for all"
- @Girth Brooks

'whats good for the goose is good for the gander'.

-A Duck

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't care what anyone wears, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a "religious" thing. I notice you didn't ask about Jews wearing the yarmulke, or Sikhs wearing their beards.......

If I listed them all it would be a long list. That's why I used "etc". You mentioned suppressing religious freedoms. So I guess you're not offended by those expressions?

 

[Devo182]

'whats good for the goose is good for the gander'.

-A Duck

"You see me just pull that ****** truck?!"

- Duck via 2016

 

[Glitch]

You know as well as I do that your fellow Christians would explode if this was the case across the nation. You know as well as I do that not everyone is "as tolerant" of other religions as you. For you to suggest that that tolerance applies to everyone of your faith is ludicrous.

All I can control is my actions and my words.

 

[bignewt]

So you're ok with suppressing Christian rights as long as we don't step on those others? Gotcha. I don't know where the mean Christian touched you but good land man, your hate is palatable. I love you man but it ain't a good look.

Show me where I said anything about suppressing Christian rights? I just said that I can see how a cross on state property could be seen as offensive to a devout Muslim or Jew or Buddist that attends a public university. If they want to wear a cross or have a six foot cross on their car windshield that's their business. Do you see the difference?

 

[Big Sun]

divide and conquer... they say.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Show me where I said anything about suppressing Christian rights? I just said that I can see how a cross on state property could be seen as offensive to a devout Muslim or Jew or Buddist that attends a public university. If they want to wear a cross or have a six foot cross on their car windshield that's their business. Do you see the difference?

I think people who are going to be offended are going to be offended. If I go to Saudi Arabia and I go to a soccer match and I see references to Islam, the last thing I'll be is offended. If those players wanted that cross, I'm good with it. Going to a game is voluntary. If they're offended by it, thy don't have to go. It's not being forced on them.

 

[bignewt]

I think people who are going to be offended are going to be offended. If I go to Saudi Arabia and I go to a soccer match and I see references to Islam, the last thing I'll be is offended. If those players wanted that cross, I'm good with it. Going to a game is voluntary. If they're offended by it, thy don't have to go. It's not being forced on them.

Weak retort. You cannot compare the two. But you are correct they don't have to go 0f course I could also say to the players dropping crosses on the field they can go to a Christian university, not a public one.