Cross on the mound for Easter at the baseball game [MOVED]

[bignewt]

I can actually tell you with 100% certainty that he is not. But that would be wasted on someone who doesn't hold to my worldview.

Again, it isn't a Shakespearean play. It is presentation of a worldview. You're fine with that. You would not be fine if it were a Christian presentation. You only one one side silenced. You should just be honest with yourself.

Would you be okay with that same school doing the Nativity play before Christmas break?

 

[bignewt]

If it would bother you as much, then you should understand why it bothers Christian parents who send their children to school only to have teachers/professors do exactly as I have described.

You act like they don't know whats going to happen when they send their kids to college. Like its a new thing that blindsides them. Naive much?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

*Preaches to me about acting superior

*Types another sentence that is nothing but that.

I'm just mimicking your behavior. I said yesterday that I think you're a smart guy, you're above these useless insults

 

[bignewt]

never to late to join in a good ole debate lol got a promotion at work so I've been a lot busier and haven't been here in a WHILE

Just saying there are pages and pages to catch up on. Are you the guy at the party that overhears a discussion, goes to the bathroom, gets a beverage, maybe a snack, has another conversation then heads back to that original discussion to give your two cents?

 

[bignewt]

I'm just mimicking your behavior. I said yesterday that I think you're a smart guy, you're above these useless insults

If you don't recognize a heavy bias in here on certain things other than our mutual love of the Vols then I don't know what else to say.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Would you be okay with that same school doing the Nativity play before Christmas break?

It depends. Who is doing the nativity? Is it actually presented accurately? Are students forced to attend? If the guy in drag is doing the nativity, then no.

I don't care about the guy in drag doing a presentation before a group of students who want to attend. People are welcome to their depravity. Would you allow the guy in drag but shut down the nativity?

 

[bignewt]

It depends. Who is doing the nativity? Is it actually presented accurately? Are students forced to attend? If the guy in drag is doing the nativity, then no.

I don't care about the guy in drag doing a presentation before a group of students who want to attend. People are welcome to their depravity. Would you allow the guy in drag but shut down the nativity?

Personally I would allow both but make attendance optional, which if I remember correctly most school plays are. You buy tickets to support the drama department and you attend.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

You act like they don't know whats going to happen when they send their kids to college. Like its a new thing that blindsides them. Naive much?

Wait, so now you acknowledge that it happens? Hmm... I thought before that was just something in the minds of people in the Bible Belt?

I think some parents are naive. The colleges that my children attend, if they decide to attend, will be chosen carefully. I don't think it should have to be that way.

But it is clear that colleges are allowing one sided agenda driven indoctrination while trying very hard to eliminate the other in the classroom and in the marketplace of ideas.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

If you don't recognize a heavy bias in here on certain things other than our mutual love of the Vols then I don't know what else to say.

And? This is a TN message board. This isn't a Cal fan forum. It's not surprising that there are more professing Christians in here than others. Don't know where I ever denied that.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Personally I would allow both but make attendance optional, which if I remember correctly most school plays are. You buy tickets to support the drama department and you attend.

I have no problem with that. I don't think that's what we're talking about here. Optional performances are fine

 

[bignewt]

Wait, so now you acknowledge that it happens? Hmm... I thought before that was just something in the minds of people in the Bible Belt?

I think some parents are naive. The colleges that my children attend, if they decide to attend, will be chosen carefully. I don't think it should have to be that way.

But it is clear that colleges are allowing one sided agenda driven indoctrination while trying very hard to eliminate the other in the classroom and in the marketplace of ideas.

I acknowledge that students are exposed to a myriad of viewpoints in college that they may have not ever considered before, yes.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I acknowledge that students are exposed to a myriad of viewpoints in college that they may have not ever considered before, yes.

"Exposed" is one way to say it

 

[Glitch]

He's been very clear that he doesn't think any religious symbol should have been displayed there.

And I'm not judging whether any of the things you listed above are "right" or "wrong", but if you are so concerned about these things, Lee College or Bryan College or any multitude of other colleges or universities are ready to accept your child and tuition when you are.

Imagine if I sent my child to Bryan College and then whined incessantly that they are only being taught from a Christian perspective, or they only had Christian groups or activities to attend. If you want your child insulated from the worldviews that are out there, send them somewhere where they'll get the education and worldview you choose for them.

You are comparing a private Christian university to publicly funded state schools? So, if I want my child to go to college and not have their heads filled with political ideology I have to shell out for a private college? Then shut down all state funded schools and give me my portion of the dollars and I will gladly do as you suggest.

 

[Glitch]

Here's a question for those of you who are so threatened by what your kids might be taught or exposed to at school.

My daughter (senior in high school) has a teacher (of math) who has brought up religion a few times this year. My daughter's standard response is to say that she doesn't consider herself to be religious. So this teacher brings my daughter a little knitted cross. She told my daughter that she (the teacher) believes that she will go to heaven when she dies and wants to see my daughter there.

Do you have a problem with this?

That teacher should not bring her religion to the classroom. Her job is to teach math and she can certainly do that without religion. So yes, I do have a problem with that.

 

[butchna]

Agreed on the Stark deal.

I dont recall Mimi Rogers being a great actress, more for her print work.

Arent they remaking Bosch with younger girl being a cop?

Yeah…his daughter’s a rookie. It’s not a remake, the same actors are involved. If you haven’t finished, saying anything further would be a spoiler. That actress is on her way up. Mimi’s not Meryl Streep but can command a scene and looks good in it. Very believable as a lawyer.

 

[Glitch]

Literally just read an article about a HS teacher in WI doing a performance at the talent show in drag because he's LGBTQ, yeah they definitely don't exist

OH NO! The HORROR!

So you are ok with a teacher expressing their sexual orientation/views in school but if that same teacher got on stage and recited verses from the Bible then that is taking it too far. Once again, if it fits with what you believe then it is ok.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Religion is different, yes. Its far more than an expression of ideas. Millions of people have died over religion, how many have died over LBTQ?

LOL, it's the same. You look at it differently because you detest it. How many have died over it has nothing to do with whether it's an ideology or not.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I acknowledge that students are exposed to a myriad of viewpoints in college that they may have not ever considered before, yes.

Sadly for most colleges it's "become a critical social justice activist or else"

Just ask literally anyone who has been to college within the last 6 or 7 years. It's all critical social justice (woke but I like using the technical term because that helps shed light on what it really is) nonsense.

All my friends had to deal with it. Some bought into it more than others. Like they would literally fail you if you did not placate their views or argue against them in class. I'm talking about classes in the humanities departments especially.

Even in the ivy league (well duh) there isn't a single class that does not push for some kind of social justice agenda. For instance Yeomni Park, a North Korean defector went to Columbia and said the only class she kinda enjoyed was evolution, because it was the only one that hardly had any wokeness in it.

I mean in the summer of 2020 you saw a lot of what has been happening in the universities come to a boil right?

A bunch of activists/revolutionaries looking to disrupt and dismantle the western society. They believe that western society is inherently white supremacist and all the systems within it perpetuate a world that is only beneficial to white people and oppressed minorities. Then you got the patriarchy stuff and the gender stuff that all coincides with that belief. These people reject objective truth, hate the enlightenment and thus they reject liberalism. They aren't liberal. Sure there are many liberals that just don't understand the intellectual origins these ideas come from, but in these schools and on social media these ideas are spread as GOSPEL. (it's the lefts version of the evangelical movement kinda) They are not taught to them, they are put in to praxis or practice and people start spouting those ideas off in their daily lives. That's how you get mass riots mostly perpetuate by little suburban privileged college educated white kids talking about how they hate white people so much, the patriarchy and that they don't conform to a gender.

 

[bignewt]

Sadly for most colleges it's "become a critical social justice activist or else"

Just ask literally anyone who has been to college within the last 6 or 7 years. It's all critical social justice (woke but I like using the technical term because that helps shed light on what it really is) nonsense.

All my friends had to deal with it. Some bought into it more than others. Like they would literally fail you if you did not placate their views or argue against them in class. I'm talking about classes in the humanities departments especially.

Even in the ivy league (well duh) there isn't a single class that does not push for some kind of social justice agenda. For instance Yeomni Park, a North Korean defector went to Columbia and said the only class she kinda enjoyed was evolution, because it was the only one that hardly had any wokeness in it.

I mean in the summer of 2020 you saw a lot of what has been happening in the universities come to a boil right?

A bunch of activists/revolutionaries looking to disrupt and dismantle the western society. They believe that western society is inherently white supremacist and all the systems within it perpetuate a world that is only beneficial to white people and oppressed minorities. Then you got the patriarchy stuff and the gender stuff that all coincides with that belief. These people reject objective truth, hate the enlightenment and thus they reject liberalism. They aren't liberal. Sure there are many liberals that just don't understand the intellectual origins these ideas come from, but in these schools and on social media these ideas are spread as GOSPEL. (it's the lefts version of the evangelical movement kinda) They are not taught to them, they are put in to praxis or practice and people start spouting those ideas off in their daily lives. That's how you get mass riots mostly perpetuate by little suburban privileged college educated white kids talking about how they hate white people so much, the patriarchy and that they don't conform to a gender.

You should have seen a college in the 60s friend.

 

[bignewt]

LOL, it's the same. You look at it differently because you detest it. How many have died over it has nothing to do with whether it's an ideology or not.

Ok. Maybe the major cause of death is one reason why I detest it?

 

[bignewt]

So you are ok with a teacher expressing their sexual orientation/views in school but if that same teacher got on stage and recited verses from the Bible then that is taking it too far. Once again, if it fits with what you believe then it is ok.

Once again you failed to see a prior post where I stayed the attendance should be optional. C'mon guys keep up!

 

[Rishvol]

Ok. Maybe the major cause of death is one reason why I detest it?

AIDS?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Ok. Maybe the major cause of death is one reason why I detest it?

Still has no bearing on whether it's a ideology.

 

[BucVol98]

Religion is different, yes. Its far more than an expression of ideas. Millions of people have died over religion, how many have died over LBTQ?

If you go by that frame of mind why detest Christianity so much? Why not detest Islam with the same vigor (which anyone can see you do not)

 

[BucVol98]

How do you know that teacher isn't Christian? Guess what, there are homosexuals that are. But please tell me how a man wearing a dress during A PLAY will make the students gay. You do realize that Shakespeare troupes have been dressing and performing as women for centuries right?

Not to openly support an ideology....